flyinchicken 0 #1 July 11, 2007 Well with July zipping along I am finally able to have a full weekend of jumping thanx to my dad. My last jump was March 29th in Lake Elsinore, so all the nervousness that goes with being uncurrent will be part of the beginning of my weekend. Instead of doing an actual recurrency jump I was thinking of drilling EP's in the harness and going for a tandem. Basically get in the air and climatise myself, and while someone else has the reigns, mentally drill myself on em. I'm thinking it's a great idea for recurrency. I'm sooooo excited. "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #2 July 11, 2007 Stop being a wimp. Do a recurrency jump. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #3 July 11, 2007 QuoteInstead of doing an actual recurrency jump I was thinking of drilling EP's in the harness and going for a tandem. I can understand drilling EP's, but doing a tandem? Okay, maybe if you were a few years uncurrent, but March was only four months ago and it's not like you only have 25 jumps. Seems like a waste of money that might be better spent on a pile of jump tickets. But you go on now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #4 July 11, 2007 430 jumps and youre considering a tandem for recurrency ? My goodness things have changed. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #5 July 11, 2007 I was about a year uncurrent once,but I never considered doing a tandem for currency. You just need to relax once you get out of the plane it will be just like you never stopped jumping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #6 July 11, 2007 Quote 430 jumps and youre considering a tandem for recurrency ? My goodness things have changed. Holy shit--I didn't notice that!!!!! What kind of crap are they putting into the heads of these young'uns?!!!Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #7 July 11, 2007 If making a tandem is what you need to acclimate yourself back to skydiving mode, then that is what you need to do and there is no shame in that. Even though it is somewhat uncommon to many experienced jumpers to make a tandem after laying off for a few months, this may be exactly what you need to maximize your safety. Hell, I know really good AFF instructors who needed 12+ tandems and 30 student solo’s after that, so it takes what it takes for every individual… I cannot think of anyone better than Scotty to get you acquainted with canopy control again (tell him I said happy birthday).Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinchicken 0 #8 July 11, 2007 Will do! I'll be doing my tandem with peedee, but trust me I'll be following Scotty around listening carefully to everything he says as usual. I won't have to pay full price for my tandem,(actually less than a recurrency jump). Then i just relax and take things in on my first jump back. Kinda like a warm up stretch before I begin jumping again. I like the idea of it. I am always so damn nervous on that first jump. Would be nice to just look, listen and think. Then bust out some jumps for the next two days. "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #9 July 11, 2007 Hun fun and stay safe. Remember to say hi to Scotty for me...Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avenfoto 0 #10 July 11, 2007 if after 400+ jumps and only 4 months uncurrent you are that afraid of being in the air alone, than maybe you should keep your feet on the ground. just my .02 im sure youll have fun regardless.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinchicken 0 #11 July 12, 2007 I WILL be nervous and I want to relax, not stress myself back into jumping. I have a lot of other personal issues I am dealing with now that i am jumping with my father, It is added risk. I need to relax myself and begin jumping slowly. Why not a tandem to do this? I have no pride, i don't care if you or anyone else thinks I'm being a chicken(note my dz.com name). It's like going on short jog a few days before the marathon. i think I will enjoy it immensly, especially with a good friend strapped to my back. "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #12 July 12, 2007 Quoteif after 400+ jumps and only 4 months uncurrent you are that afraid of being in the air alone, than maybe you should keep your feet on the ground. just my .02 im sure youll have fun regardless.... I do not believe it has anything to do with fear, more to do with knowing ones own limitations and selecting a path in life that best promotes safety and proceeding with ones lifestyle in a manner that is responsible for every individual. Certainly, this person’s path and the course they are deciding to pursuit may not make sense to anyone else, but if that is what it takes to better ensure personal safety, then who are we to condemn such a course of action? For instance, I have never done nor will I ever do a tandem as long as I can skydive for myself. As far as I am concerned, tandems are for pussies and old ladies, but I would recommend tandem progression to just about anyone who wants to take up skydiving simply because it is a very good and safe method of training for many/most individuals. So is it a fact that tandems are only for old ladies and pussies? Nope – just in my world, hence, if what was best for me and my personality applied to everyone in the world, there would be no tandems, just hardcore military-esque training, no student radios past the 3rd solo and required training and testing to renew a license every year that encompassed emergency procedures and life fire exercises under canopy including a successful 180 degree turn @or- 150’AGL, because this is how I go about my own personal training. I train like I do everything in life – hardcore… Fortunately, I have learned to teach others how to skydive with much more understanding to the variety of needs that differ from each and every individual. The first couple years, I was pretty hardcore with students, but I have learned that empathy and understand breed safer skydivers in the long run and that took accepting that not everyone learns and trains like I do and that what is best for me (my way) is not best for everyone… I do not know if I am a great, or even a good instructor, but I do the best I can so I can sleep well at night and if everyone’s opinion of who should and who should not be allowed to skydive or would likely be dead before reaching 100 jumps applied, I would have never progressed to the point of having the privilege of being able to teach others how to participate in this wonderful sport/lifestyle. This sort of condemnation causes me to think of Gollum - man I wish Frodo would have killed that sorry little bastard, yet he (Gollum) ended up saving mankind! Yeah I know, it is just a story, but isn’t everything? If anything, I applaud the OP for doing what is best for their safety and not caring what anyone else thinks… BRAVO!Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 771 #13 July 12, 2007 I'm kinda curious about the canopy you'll be jumping post-tandem. Will you be on a stilleto at 1.17 like your profile says? If you've never done a tandem or haven't done one since student status it's kinda wierd, getting in a plane without a rig. Hope you enjoy man, and get some good fun jumps in after!I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinchicken 0 #14 July 12, 2007 HIya lippy, I have a bit of a theory to share with you on this one. I have done 280 jumps on this canopy. I have muscle memory on this canopy. I can flat turn 180 degrees with it from very low altitudes, If I were to use a larger canopy, I would be changing one of the most important parts of my skydive, my landing. I won't change it because it has been the only canopy I have used for more than half of my jumping career. If this was a newer canopy, say 50 jumps or less I would go back to the size I had been using before. I have never been an agressive pilot so I'll just be flying my regular old pattern in. If I were to be off jumping for more than a few years I would definitely use a larger one but for a year or less no. My body and mind knows this canopy inside and out. I also weigh about 105 lbs now as I have been living life pretty frugally since starting my studio. So I'm pretty much 1:1 on it. Cheers "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #15 July 12, 2007 How many [real] jumps would a Tandem cost? (too much of my play budget, methinks) (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinchicken 0 #16 July 12, 2007 I am not afraid of being in the air alone. Two years ago I spoke to my father for the first time in about 10 years. The reasons for this are no ones concern. Suffice to say, that i decided I needed to face a demon within that has been tearing me apart most of my adult life. I brought my father on a tandem, he has now embraced the sport and jumps regularly(he has 190 jumps in like two years an he's 55). One of the biggest dragons I have to slay in my life, within my soul, is dealing with my emotions and feelings when anywhere near my father, forget on a plane. Second the only relationship I attempted to have with a guy in 12 years was with someone who I got started skydiving and he may be on that plane as well. Everything that happened in that relationship stemmed from the pain I have held within me all my life. things I have not been able to let go of and I intend to do just that. So yes the first time I get in a plane with my father and all of my painful childhood issues, I will be strapped to a good friend, relaxing, letting go of the past and welcoming the future, filled with sharing the sky, love, forgiveness and understanding with my father. Deep? Well, that's me. =) If it was just a bunch of skydivers on the plane I'd throw on my rig, drill my AP's n jump. "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 771 #17 July 12, 2007 The power of the sport? Bringing two people back together after 10 years of bad blood? Love to hear shit like that!I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #18 July 12, 2007 Quote Well with July zipping along I am finally able to have a full weekend of jumping thanx to my dad. My last jump was March 29th in Lake Elsinore, so all the nervousness that goes with being uncurrent will be part of the beginning of my weekend. Instead of doing an actual recurrency jump I was thinking of drilling EP's in the harness and going for a tandem. Basically get in the air and climatise myself, and while someone else has the reigns, mentally drill myself on em. I'm thinking it's a great idea for recurrency. I'm sooooo excited. Tandem??!?! 430 jumps, and its only been a few months since your last jump. In the US with a C license you wouldn't even be considered uncurrent till you have been 6 months on the ground. Go freakin jump man.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinchicken 0 #19 July 13, 2007 Yo Chris Read the rest of my posts and you will see why. I am making sure that I am staying safe myself as well as protecting those i jump with. "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #20 July 13, 2007 Personally i think you are overcomplicating things, over thinking and without sounding harsh or abusive... a bit of a drama queen. Its just a skydive, its fun; its for forgetting problems. Have fun with your tandem and have fun getting back at it.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #21 July 13, 2007 Here in Norway, almost everyone are 4-5-6-7 months uncurrent when the season starts. Not very tempting to jump with any of the tandem instructors, that I know are just as uncurrent as I am. What people usually do here is doing a solo belly and pulling high. And practice EPs and have a plan for what they're going to do in their freefall. I was pretty scared before my first jump after 7 months, but after having practiced EPs and made a plan, I felt calmer, and on jump run, all my fear was gone. I just went out and had a great jump. But everyone is different, and you just do what you feel comfortable about. This is just what worked for me. I would say fear is pretty normal when it's been a while since you jumped. Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #22 July 13, 2007 Quote Here in Norway, almost everyone are 4-5-6-7 months uncurrent when the season starts. Greetings from Finland. I was jumping in every month I think from the last 12. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #23 July 13, 2007 Quote Yo Chris Read the rest of my posts and you will see why. I am making sure that I am staying safe myself as well as protecting those i jump with. I understand your motives. The standard recurrency jump with instructor is designed to do just that. Keep you safe. Make sure that you haven't forgotten the important things (like how to open your parachute) in a somewhat more safe environment. If you blow it, you have an AFF instructor with you. Doing a tandem isn't going to refresh you on what to do on a skydive because that tandem doesn't even remotely resemble a regular jump. I got my A license a long time ago, amassed a total of 57 jumps, and then quit for 14 years. I made a standard recurrency jump with an instructor when I returned. You couldn't have forced me to do a tandem. They are for newbs and one time thrill seekers. For sure I was nervous when I made my recurrency jump. Thats normal. But I think its better to refresh your memory by doing exactly what you will be doing on a "normal" jump. My 7.983 cents __ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xlh883 0 #24 July 13, 2007 I did a recurrency jump in May after 6 months off. Was a piece of cake except the back flips were front flips because of my suit booties. Oh well, passed any way. Do what feels right for you is what I say. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #25 July 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteYo Chris Read the rest of my posts and you will see why. I am making sure that I am staying safe myself as well as protecting those i jump with. ------------------------------------------------------- Ive been watching this thread. I have come to the conclusion that.....with the problems cited maybe you should be on the ground until you can resolve this stuff. The words of encouragement are laudable ...but....the fact remains that there are people that have no business jumping. I am certainly not indicting the OP, although this persons reasoning makes them suspect. I got my tandem rating in 87...and and have never experienced this. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
