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Quote...and it's not like we have alot of choices for other ones...
Evidently you missed all the references to The Farm and SDA. Forgive me, but it's hard to understand why anyone would choose ASC over the other two DZs in GA especially a student who can learn at a DZ with a large landing area instead of a small, hilly, rocky one.
Your jumps at ASC will count toward your USPA license if you can get a USPA certified instructor to sign off on your license application.
Again, before you decide, there's nothing like a visit to the other DZs before you make your final choice and pay your money. Do not limit your research to the internet...only a personal visit will tell the whole story.
Add me to the list of those who will NOT put $$ into Ben and Cary's pockets.
Did you get my PM?
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
QuoteI can't answer your question but I can tell you they are no longer a USPA group member.They lost all of their group memberships. Ben and Carey both were striped of their memberships and instructor ratings.
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Even though they (Ben and Carey) have lost their instructor and group rating can't AFF be taught there by another certified AAF-I? Not that I would ever spend a dime their (because I wouldn't, due to their business practices). Just trying to get clarification.
I learned at a DZ has chosen not to be a USPA group member, but was taught by a USPA certified AFF-I and received my USPA profeciencey card to continue on with my A Lic.
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QuoteQuoteI can't answer your question but I can tell you they are no longer a USPA group member.They lost all of their group memberships. Ben and Carey both were striped of their memberships and instructor ratings.
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Even though they (Ben and Carey) have lost their instructor and group rating can't AFF be taught there by another certified AAF-I?
As far as I know, yes.
Ben and Cary could probably care less whether their ratings are gone, they're still raking in the dough with their dirty Skyride business.
"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban
The answer to your question is...yes.
There are many good DZs that are not group members and you can learn to skydive at any of them. Some people place importance on the public commitment to abide by USPA BSRs while others don't. Some non-members still abide by the BSRs while some don't. Only knowledge and a personal investigation will be able to tell the difference. I advise against blindly jumping into anything. (no pun intended)
Personally, I like the idea of a public commitment that the USPA group membership requires.
There are many good DZs that are not group members and you can learn to skydive at any of them. Some people place importance on the public commitment to abide by USPA BSRs while others don't. Some non-members still abide by the BSRs while some don't. Only knowledge and a personal investigation will be able to tell the difference. I advise against blindly jumping into anything. (no pun intended)
Personally, I like the idea of a public commitment that the USPA group membership requires.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
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come on folks
there is really nothing we can do but make as many folks aware of the scam
legal action..what a joke
USPA..used the nuclear option ,shot its wad
SKYRIDE fills a market demand ..yea it sucks but they are getting rich as other DZ even local DZ's struggle to pay there bills
all you can do vote with your feet
if anything could be done it would have been done
it is sad that many good folks ret ripped off by them
so if your DZ supports then go somewhere else
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there is really nothing we can do but make as many folks aware of the scam
legal action..what a joke
USPA..used the nuclear option ,shot its wad
SKYRIDE fills a market demand ..yea it sucks but they are getting rich as other DZ even local DZ's struggle to pay there bills
all you can do vote with your feet
if anything could be done it would have been done
it is sad that many good folks ret ripped off by them
so if your DZ supports then go somewhere else
..
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Quote
legal action..what a joke
USPA..used the nuclear option ,shot its wad
Anyone have an update on the Skydive AZ lawsuit against Skyride?
From Skydive October 2006 Volume 26, Issue #303
QuoteResponding to a petition from the defendants, a Federal judge in August reduced the scope of the lawsuit Skydive Arizona filed against Cary Quattrocchi, Ben Butle and several of their businesses. Skydive Arizona is suing the men over their controversial 1-800-Skyride tandem marketing program, alleging anit-trust violations, trademark infringement, consumer deception and unfair competition. The judge dismissed the claims against the individual defendants, but left in place those against several corporations they own. She also struck 79 paragraphs from Skydive Arizona's complaint; these paragraphs mainly concern various websites not owned or controlled by Skydive Arizona.
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey
Elisha 1
Gracias. I don't get Skydiving Mag (although I guess I should).
I just checked Pacer for updates..
Nothing at all has happened with the USPA suit since 4/20/2006.
The Skydive Arizona Suit has been very Busy this week.
I Also found a GREAT deposition that details Skyrides Business practices from Jim Vance. (Attached.. Worth the read if you really want to know why people do not like Skyride))
Full Case Docket on Pacer:
08/30/2005 1 ***PARAGRAPHS 23 AND 150 THROUGH 228 ARE STRIKEN PER ORDER 26 FILED
8/24/06***COMPLAINT, filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet # 2 Exhibit)(Leach, Sid) Modified on 8/24/2006 (LAD). (Entered: 08/30/2005)
08/31/2005 Filing fee paid, receipt number PHX032267. This case has been assigned to the Honorable Mary H. Murgia. All future pleadings or documents should bear the correct case number: CV05-2656-PHX-MHM (ESH, ) (Entered: 09/01/2005)
09/01/2005 2 Summons Issued as to CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Atlanta# 2 Ben# 3 CASC# 4 skyride.com# 5 1-800-skyride)(ESH, ) (Entered: 09/01/2005)
10/13/2005 3 Notice re Notice of Filing Return of Service of Process on Defendant 1800Skyride.com by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. re 1 Complaint (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 10/13/2005)
10/13/2005 4 Notice re Notice of Filing Return of Service of Process on Defendant 1-800-Sky-Ride by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. re 1 Complaint (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 10/13/2005)
10/21/2005 5 Notice re Stipulation for Parties for Setting the Deadline for Defendants to Respond to the Complaint by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., DOES 1-50 (Walsh, Edward) (Entered: 10/21/2005)
11/03/2005 6 ORDER re 5 Notice re Stipulation for Parties for Setting the Deadline for Defendants to Respond to the Complaint. IT IS HEREBY ORDERED granting Defendants until November 14, 2005 in which to answer, move, or otherwise respond to the Complaint. Signed by Judge Mary H Murguia on 11/3/5. (MHM) (Entered: 11/03/2005)
11/14/2005 7 MOTION to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 11/14/2005)
11/14/2005 8 ANSWER to Complaint by USSO, LLC, Atlanta SC, Inc., and CASC, Inc. by 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC..(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 11/14/2005)
11/14/2005 9 MOTION to Dismiss Counts/Claims : Paragraphs 23 and 150 - 228 or, in the Alternative, to Strike Pursuant to Rule 12(f) by 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A)(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 11/14/2005)
12/02/2005 10 RESPONSE to Motion re 7 MOTION to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM Plaintiff Skydive Arizona's Response To Defendants Cary V. Quattrocchi and Benny W. Butler's Motion To Dismiss For Lack of Personal Jurisdiction Or, In The Alternative, For Failure To State a Claim filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 12/02/2005)
12/02/2005 11 OBJECTION re 7 MOTION to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM, 9 MOTION to Dismiss Counts/Claims : Paragraphs 23 and 150 - 228 or, in the Alternative, to Strike Pursuant to Rule 12(f) /Plaintiff Skydive Arizona's Objections To Unsigned Affidavits of Cary Quattrocchi and Benny W. Butler by Plaintiff SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 12/02/2005)
12/02/2005 12 RESPONSE in Opposition re 9 MOTION to Dismiss Counts/Claims : Paragraphs 23 and 150 - 228 or, in the Alternative, to Strike Pursuant to Rule 12(f) filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 12/02/2005)
12/05/2005 13 AMENDED ANSWER to Plaintiff's 1 Complaint by USSO, Atlanta SC, and CASC, Inc., COUNTERCLAIM against all plaintiffs by 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/05/2005)
12/16/2005 14 Notice re NOTICE OF FILING ORIGINAL AFFIDAVITS OF CARY V. QUATTROCCHI AND BENNY W. BUTLER by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., DOES 1-50 (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/16/2005)
12/19/2005 15 RESPONSE re 11 Objection, Defendants' Response to Plaintiff Skyride Arizona's Objections to Unsigned Affidavits of Cary Quattrocchi and Benny W. Butler by Defendants CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit Declaration of Kimberly A. Warshawsky)(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/19/2005)
12/22/2005 16 REPLY to Response to Motion re 9 MOTION to Dismiss Counts/Claims : Paragraphs 23 and 150 - 228 or, in the Alternative, to Strike Pursuant to Rule 12(f) filed by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/22/2005)
12/22/2005 17 REPLY to Response to Motion re 7 MOTION to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM filed by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/22/2005)
01/05/2006 18 ANSWER to Counterclaim by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC..(Leach, Sid) (Entered: 01/05/2006)
05/08/2006 19 Minute Order: The Court ORDERS setting the Defendants' Motions to Dismiss [docs. 7 and 9] for oral argument on July 17, 2006 at 4:00 p.m. before Judge Mary H Murguia. [This is a TEXT ENTRY ONLY. There is no PDF document associated with this entry.] (KSP) (Entered: 05/08/2006)
07/17/2006 20 MOTION for To File Exhibits Non-Electronically by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order)(Leach, Sid) (Entered: 07/17/2006)
07/17/2006 21 Notice re Filing by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. Plaintiff Skydive Arizona's Notice of Filing Declarations and Other Evidence to be Offered at July 17 Hearing on Motions (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit Exhibit C - H)(Leach, Sid) (Entered: 07/17/2006)
07/17/2006 22 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Mary H Murguia. Court Reporter: Merilyn Sanchez. Appearances: Sid Leach for the plaintiff. Kimberly Warshawsky for the defendants. Discussion held regarding Plaintiff's Motion to file exhibits non-electronically. IT IS ORDERED denying Plaintiff's motion to file exhibits non-electronically. Counsel argue their positions to the Court regarding Defendant's motions to dismiss. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED taking these matters under advisement. [This is a TEXT ONLY entry. There is no.pdf document attached.] (KSP) (Entered: 07/18/2006)
07/28/2006 23 NOTICE of Appearance by Joseph Rick Tache on behalf of SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. (Tache, Joseph) (Entered: 07/28/2006)
08/18/2006 24 Minute Order: The Court ORDERS setting this matter for Discovery Dispute Hearing on August 22, 2006 at 3:00 p.m. before Judge Mary H Murguia. [This is a TEXT ENTRY ONLY. There is no PDF document associated with this entry.] (KSP) (Entered: 08/18/2006)
08/22/2006 25 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Mary H Murguia. Court Reporter: Merilyn Sanchez. Appearances: Sid Leach and Rich Tache for the plaintiff. Kimberly Warshawsky for the defendants. Discovery Dispute Hearing held. Discussion held regarding defendants' request for a copy of the complaint plaintiff has filed in a NAF proceeding. The Court advises counsel that its order ruling on the pending motions to dismiss will be issued today. IT IS ORDERED directing plaintiff to provide defendants with a copy of the complaints filed by 3:15 p.m. on August 23, 2006. [This is a TEXT ONLY entry. There is no.pdf document attached.](KSP) (Entered: 08/22/2006)
08/24/2006 26 ORDER granting Individual Dfts' 7 Motion to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction and Failure to State a Claim upon which relief can be granted; pla's claims against the Individual dfts are dismissed without prejudice; granting in part and denying in part the Corporate dfts' 9 Motion to Dismiss for Failure to State a Claim or in the Alternative, Motio to Strike Allegations of pla's complaint; the corporate dfts' motion is denied to the extent they seek dismissal of any of pla's claims; the corporate dfts' motion is granted to the extent they move to strike paragraphs 23 and 150 through 228 of pla's complaint; FURTHER ORDERED directing the Clerk of Court to strike paragraphs 23 and 150-228 from pla's complaint. Signed by Judge Mary H Murguia on 8/22/2006. (LAD) (Entered: 08/24/2006)
08/30/2006 27 TRANSCRIPT DESIGNATION AND ORDER FORM by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC. for proceedings held on 8/22/2006 before Judge Mary H. Murguia. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 08/30/2006)
08/30/2006 28 TRANSCRIPT of Hearing on Discovery Dispute during Proceedings held on 8/22/06 before Judge Mary H Murguia. Court Reporter: Merilyn A Sanchez. (BAS, ) (Entered: 09/08/2006)
09/08/2006 29 MOTION to Amend/Correct FOR LEAVE TO FILE SECOND AMENDED ANSWER AND COUNTERCLAIM by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., DOES 1-50. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A-1# 2 Exhibit A-2# 3 Exhibit B# 4 Exhibit C-1# 5 Exhibit C-2# 6 Exhibit C-3# 7 Exhibit C-4)(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 09/08/2006)
09/08/2006 30 LODGED Proposed re: 29 MOTION to Amend/Correct FOR LEAVE TO FILE SECOND AMENDED ANSWER AND COUNTERCLAIM; SECOND AMENDED ANSWER AND COUNTERCLAIM submitted on 09/08/06. Document to be filed by Clerk if Motion to Leave to File or Amend is granted. filed by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., DOES 1-50 (Attachments: # 1 Appendix 2nd Amended Answer Part 2)(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 09/08/2006)
09/08/2006 31 MOTION for Reconsideration re 26 Order on Motion to Dismiss Case/Lack of Jurisdiction,,,, Order on Motion to Dismiss Counts/Claims,,, and motion for leave to amend complaint by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Affidavit Exhibit A# 2 Exhibit B - marked up version of amended complaint)(Leach, Sid) (Entered: 09/08/2006)
09/08/2006 32 LODGED Proposed re: 31 MOTION for Reconsideration re 26 Order on Motion to Dismiss Case/Lack of Jurisdiction,,,, Order on Motion to Dismiss Counts/Claims,,, and motion for leave to amend complaint; Proposed amended complaint submitted on 9/8/2006. Document to be filed by Clerk if Motion to Leave to File or Amend is granted. filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 09/09/2006)
09/11/2006 33 ORDER: Scheduling Conference set for 10/5/2006 at 04:00 PM before Judge Mary H. Murguia. Signed by Judge Mary H. Murguia on 09/08/06. (MHM) (Entered: 09/11/2006)
09/18/2006 34 Minute Order: The Court ORDERS directing Defendants to file a response to the Plaintiff's Motion for Reconsideration within 10 days of today's date. [This is a TEXT ENTRY ONLY. There is no PDF document associated with this entry.] (KSP) (Entered: 09/18/2006)
09/20/2006 35 Minute Order: Due to a conflict on the Court's calendar, the Court ORDERS that the Rule 16 Scheduling Conference currently set on October 5, 2006 be reset to Wednesday, October 25, 2006 at 4:30 p.m. before Judge Mary H Murguia. [This is a TEXT ENTRY ONLY. There is no PDF document associated with this entry.] (KSP) (Entered: 09/20/2006)
09/25/2006 36 RESPONSE in Opposition re 29 MOTION to Amend/Correct FOR LEAVE TO FILE SECOND AMENDED ANSWER AND COUNTERCLAIM opposing adding Counts II, III and IV filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC., SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 09/25/2006)
Disclaimer: I am not an lawyer and have no clue what I am talking about. I just happen to have a Pacer Account. All Information and documents I am Posting are publicly available to the best of my knowlage. I am just passing along information.
Nothing at all has happened with the USPA suit since 4/20/2006.
The Skydive Arizona Suit has been very Busy this week.
I Also found a GREAT deposition that details Skyrides Business practices from Jim Vance. (Attached.. Worth the read if you really want to know why people do not like Skyride))
Full Case Docket on Pacer:
08/30/2005 1 ***PARAGRAPHS 23 AND 150 THROUGH 228 ARE STRIKEN PER ORDER 26 FILED
8/24/06***COMPLAINT, filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet # 2 Exhibit)(Leach, Sid) Modified on 8/24/2006 (LAD). (Entered: 08/30/2005)
08/31/2005 Filing fee paid, receipt number PHX032267. This case has been assigned to the Honorable Mary H. Murgia. All future pleadings or documents should bear the correct case number: CV05-2656-PHX-MHM (ESH, ) (Entered: 09/01/2005)
09/01/2005 2 Summons Issued as to CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Atlanta# 2 Ben# 3 CASC# 4 skyride.com# 5 1-800-skyride)(ESH, ) (Entered: 09/01/2005)
10/13/2005 3 Notice re Notice of Filing Return of Service of Process on Defendant 1800Skyride.com by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. re 1 Complaint (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 10/13/2005)
10/13/2005 4 Notice re Notice of Filing Return of Service of Process on Defendant 1-800-Sky-Ride by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. re 1 Complaint (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 10/13/2005)
10/21/2005 5 Notice re Stipulation for Parties for Setting the Deadline for Defendants to Respond to the Complaint by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., DOES 1-50 (Walsh, Edward) (Entered: 10/21/2005)
11/03/2005 6 ORDER re 5 Notice re Stipulation for Parties for Setting the Deadline for Defendants to Respond to the Complaint. IT IS HEREBY ORDERED granting Defendants until November 14, 2005 in which to answer, move, or otherwise respond to the Complaint. Signed by Judge Mary H Murguia on 11/3/5. (MHM) (Entered: 11/03/2005)
11/14/2005 7 MOTION to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 11/14/2005)
11/14/2005 8 ANSWER to Complaint by USSO, LLC, Atlanta SC, Inc., and CASC, Inc. by 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC..(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 11/14/2005)
11/14/2005 9 MOTION to Dismiss Counts/Claims : Paragraphs 23 and 150 - 228 or, in the Alternative, to Strike Pursuant to Rule 12(f) by 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A)(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 11/14/2005)
12/02/2005 10 RESPONSE to Motion re 7 MOTION to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM Plaintiff Skydive Arizona's Response To Defendants Cary V. Quattrocchi and Benny W. Butler's Motion To Dismiss For Lack of Personal Jurisdiction Or, In The Alternative, For Failure To State a Claim filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 12/02/2005)
12/02/2005 11 OBJECTION re 7 MOTION to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM, 9 MOTION to Dismiss Counts/Claims : Paragraphs 23 and 150 - 228 or, in the Alternative, to Strike Pursuant to Rule 12(f) /Plaintiff Skydive Arizona's Objections To Unsigned Affidavits of Cary Quattrocchi and Benny W. Butler by Plaintiff SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 12/02/2005)
12/02/2005 12 RESPONSE in Opposition re 9 MOTION to Dismiss Counts/Claims : Paragraphs 23 and 150 - 228 or, in the Alternative, to Strike Pursuant to Rule 12(f) filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 12/02/2005)
12/05/2005 13 AMENDED ANSWER to Plaintiff's 1 Complaint by USSO, Atlanta SC, and CASC, Inc., COUNTERCLAIM against all plaintiffs by 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/05/2005)
12/16/2005 14 Notice re NOTICE OF FILING ORIGINAL AFFIDAVITS OF CARY V. QUATTROCCHI AND BENNY W. BUTLER by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., DOES 1-50 (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/16/2005)
12/19/2005 15 RESPONSE re 11 Objection, Defendants' Response to Plaintiff Skyride Arizona's Objections to Unsigned Affidavits of Cary Quattrocchi and Benny W. Butler by Defendants CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit Declaration of Kimberly A. Warshawsky)(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/19/2005)
12/22/2005 16 REPLY to Response to Motion re 9 MOTION to Dismiss Counts/Claims : Paragraphs 23 and 150 - 228 or, in the Alternative, to Strike Pursuant to Rule 12(f) filed by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC.. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/22/2005)
12/22/2005 17 REPLY to Response to Motion re 7 MOTION to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM filed by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 12/22/2005)
01/05/2006 18 ANSWER to Counterclaim by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC..(Leach, Sid) (Entered: 01/05/2006)
05/08/2006 19 Minute Order: The Court ORDERS setting the Defendants' Motions to Dismiss [docs. 7 and 9] for oral argument on July 17, 2006 at 4:00 p.m. before Judge Mary H Murguia. [This is a TEXT ENTRY ONLY. There is no PDF document associated with this entry.] (KSP) (Entered: 05/08/2006)
07/17/2006 20 MOTION for To File Exhibits Non-Electronically by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order)(Leach, Sid) (Entered: 07/17/2006)
07/17/2006 21 Notice re Filing by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. Plaintiff Skydive Arizona's Notice of Filing Declarations and Other Evidence to be Offered at July 17 Hearing on Motions (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit Exhibit C - H)(Leach, Sid) (Entered: 07/17/2006)
07/17/2006 22 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Mary H Murguia. Court Reporter: Merilyn Sanchez. Appearances: Sid Leach for the plaintiff. Kimberly Warshawsky for the defendants. Discussion held regarding Plaintiff's Motion to file exhibits non-electronically. IT IS ORDERED denying Plaintiff's motion to file exhibits non-electronically. Counsel argue their positions to the Court regarding Defendant's motions to dismiss. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED taking these matters under advisement. [This is a TEXT ONLY entry. There is no.pdf document attached.] (KSP) (Entered: 07/18/2006)
07/28/2006 23 NOTICE of Appearance by Joseph Rick Tache on behalf of SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. (Tache, Joseph) (Entered: 07/28/2006)
08/18/2006 24 Minute Order: The Court ORDERS setting this matter for Discovery Dispute Hearing on August 22, 2006 at 3:00 p.m. before Judge Mary H Murguia. [This is a TEXT ENTRY ONLY. There is no PDF document associated with this entry.] (KSP) (Entered: 08/18/2006)
08/22/2006 25 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Mary H Murguia. Court Reporter: Merilyn Sanchez. Appearances: Sid Leach and Rich Tache for the plaintiff. Kimberly Warshawsky for the defendants. Discovery Dispute Hearing held. Discussion held regarding defendants' request for a copy of the complaint plaintiff has filed in a NAF proceeding. The Court advises counsel that its order ruling on the pending motions to dismiss will be issued today. IT IS ORDERED directing plaintiff to provide defendants with a copy of the complaints filed by 3:15 p.m. on August 23, 2006. [This is a TEXT ONLY entry. There is no.pdf document attached.](KSP) (Entered: 08/22/2006)
08/24/2006 26 ORDER granting Individual Dfts' 7 Motion to Dismiss Case for Lack of Jurisdiction and Failure to State a Claim upon which relief can be granted; pla's claims against the Individual dfts are dismissed without prejudice; granting in part and denying in part the Corporate dfts' 9 Motion to Dismiss for Failure to State a Claim or in the Alternative, Motio to Strike Allegations of pla's complaint; the corporate dfts' motion is denied to the extent they seek dismissal of any of pla's claims; the corporate dfts' motion is granted to the extent they move to strike paragraphs 23 and 150 through 228 of pla's complaint; FURTHER ORDERED directing the Clerk of Court to strike paragraphs 23 and 150-228 from pla's complaint. Signed by Judge Mary H Murguia on 8/22/2006. (LAD) (Entered: 08/24/2006)
08/30/2006 27 TRANSCRIPT DESIGNATION AND ORDER FORM by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC. for proceedings held on 8/22/2006 before Judge Mary H. Murguia. (Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 08/30/2006)
08/30/2006 28 TRANSCRIPT of Hearing on Discovery Dispute during Proceedings held on 8/22/06 before Judge Mary H Murguia. Court Reporter: Merilyn A Sanchez. (BAS, ) (Entered: 09/08/2006)
09/08/2006 29 MOTION to Amend/Correct FOR LEAVE TO FILE SECOND AMENDED ANSWER AND COUNTERCLAIM by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., DOES 1-50. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A-1# 2 Exhibit A-2# 3 Exhibit B# 4 Exhibit C-1# 5 Exhibit C-2# 6 Exhibit C-3# 7 Exhibit C-4)(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 09/08/2006)
09/08/2006 30 LODGED Proposed re: 29 MOTION to Amend/Correct FOR LEAVE TO FILE SECOND AMENDED ANSWER AND COUNTERCLAIM; SECOND AMENDED ANSWER AND COUNTERCLAIM submitted on 09/08/06. Document to be filed by Clerk if Motion to Leave to File or Amend is granted. filed by CARY QUATTROCHI, BEN BUTLER, 1-800-SKY-RIDE, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., 1-800-SKY-RIDE, 1800SKYRIDE.COM, ATLANTA SKYDIVING CENTER, CASC INC., DOES 1-50 (Attachments: # 1 Appendix 2nd Amended Answer Part 2)(Warshawsky, Kimberly) (Entered: 09/08/2006)
09/08/2006 31 MOTION for Reconsideration re 26 Order on Motion to Dismiss Case/Lack of Jurisdiction,,,, Order on Motion to Dismiss Counts/Claims,,, and motion for leave to amend complaint by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Attachments: # 1 Affidavit Exhibit A# 2 Exhibit B - marked up version of amended complaint)(Leach, Sid) (Entered: 09/08/2006)
09/08/2006 32 LODGED Proposed re: 31 MOTION for Reconsideration re 26 Order on Motion to Dismiss Case/Lack of Jurisdiction,,,, Order on Motion to Dismiss Counts/Claims,,, and motion for leave to amend complaint; Proposed amended complaint submitted on 9/8/2006. Document to be filed by Clerk if Motion to Leave to File or Amend is granted. filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 09/09/2006)
09/11/2006 33 ORDER: Scheduling Conference set for 10/5/2006 at 04:00 PM before Judge Mary H. Murguia. Signed by Judge Mary H. Murguia on 09/08/06. (MHM) (Entered: 09/11/2006)
09/18/2006 34 Minute Order: The Court ORDERS directing Defendants to file a response to the Plaintiff's Motion for Reconsideration within 10 days of today's date. [This is a TEXT ENTRY ONLY. There is no PDF document associated with this entry.] (KSP) (Entered: 09/18/2006)
09/20/2006 35 Minute Order: Due to a conflict on the Court's calendar, the Court ORDERS that the Rule 16 Scheduling Conference currently set on October 5, 2006 be reset to Wednesday, October 25, 2006 at 4:30 p.m. before Judge Mary H Murguia. [This is a TEXT ENTRY ONLY. There is no PDF document associated with this entry.] (KSP) (Entered: 09/20/2006)
09/25/2006 36 RESPONSE in Opposition re 29 MOTION to Amend/Correct FOR LEAVE TO FILE SECOND AMENDED ANSWER AND COUNTERCLAIM opposing adding Counts II, III and IV filed by SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC., SKYDIVE ARIZONA, INC.. (Leach, Sid) (Entered: 09/25/2006)
Disclaimer: I am not an lawyer and have no clue what I am talking about. I just happen to have a Pacer Account. All Information and documents I am Posting are publicly available to the best of my knowlage. I am just passing along information.
As I am from Belgium and this thread is very long... could some-one please tell me the exact problem with Skyride? I have the impression they are not ethical and take advantage of people? Am I mistaken if I found that people react emotional on them? If not, why is this the case?
Normally I would be in the States right now, but due to personal circumstances I had to postpone it for a year. I will not visit the States just to skydive, but of course I will visit some dropzones to do some jumps. If Skyride is that bad, I don't want to go there... but I need to know why and where their dz's are situated. I hope you guys understand what I am saying. The fact that so many people here at dz. com respond negatively towards them is of course a very good reason to know something is wrong with that organization, but where can I find the info? I am very sorry, but reading over 1000nds of posts... I don't have the time.... I would be glad if somebody could tell me more about as I don't want to end up at their dz's if they really are that bad.
Thank you in advance!
Normally I would be in the States right now, but due to personal circumstances I had to postpone it for a year. I will not visit the States just to skydive, but of course I will visit some dropzones to do some jumps. If Skyride is that bad, I don't want to go there... but I need to know why and where their dz's are situated. I hope you guys understand what I am saying. The fact that so many people here at dz. com respond negatively towards them is of course a very good reason to know something is wrong with that organization, but where can I find the info? I am very sorry, but reading over 1000nds of posts... I don't have the time.... I would be glad if somebody could tell me more about as I don't want to end up at their dz's if they really are that bad.
Thank you in advance!
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No dive, like skydive... wanna bet on it?
No dive, like skydive... wanna bet on it?
You might ask yourself why it is that of the 300 dropzones and scores of other skydiving-related businesses in the country, only the enterprises owned by Butler and Quattrocchi receive this kind of reaction from the skydiving community.
Don't let the ASC/Skyride propaganda fool you. We all have choices. Skydive the Farm (previously linked) and Skydive Atlanta ( www.skydiveatlanta.com ) are both within reasonable driving distance of midtown Atlanta and both have far larger, safer landing areas than ASC. As for making a lot of jumps, I haven't been to the Farm lately, but at SDA I made four AFF training jumps with the same student a few Sundays ago, and it's fairly easy for a regular jumper to make that many or more. In fact, a few months ago with our "one plane" we flew thirty loads. One jumper was on all thirty of them (special circumstances) and three others made over fifteen jumps each.
We all have choices.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan
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