Genego 2 #1 March 1, 2009 You drop off your rig for a semi annual repack. The rigger returns it and tells you that he inspected the main and reserve, and he has repacked the main. Do you jump it or repack the main first? And why? (Really bored this cold 7 degree afternoon.I live with fear and terror, but sometimes I leave her and go skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #2 March 1, 2009 Jump it. Why would you waste a free pack job? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
txhoss 0 #3 March 1, 2009 QuoteYou drop off your rig for a semi annual repack. The rigger returns it and tells you that he inspected the main and reserve, and he has repacked the main. Do you jump it or repack the main first? And why? (Really bored this cold 7 degree afternoon. I have no problem jumping the main packed by my rigger. I think that if I would want to Re-do the work of a particular rigger in dealing with my main that I certainly would not trust him to pack the reserve. Have Rig will travel ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombuch 0 #4 March 1, 2009 Hugh? Why on earth would you repack the main? I'd say "Thanks dude, it was really cool that you inspected my main, and I sure appreciate the main pack job as some outstanding customer service."Tom Buchanan Instructor Emeritus Comm Pilot MSEL,G Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genego 2 #5 March 1, 2009 I've had many people over the years tell me not to repack their mains, that they would do it themselves. And in my opinion, inspecting the main is or should be part of a normal repack, it's not outstanding customer service in my mind to do so, it's just the right thing to do.I live with fear and terror, but sometimes I leave her and go skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chubba 0 #6 March 1, 2009 I jump it of course, I have complete trust in the work my rigger does for me... top notch bloke. I consider it a bonus, possibly the only 2 times my Sabre2 has opened on heading Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbiceps 0 #7 March 1, 2009 I am a little confused also? Why would anyone have a problem with jumping a main packed by a rigger? i feel alot safer jumping a main packed by a rigger who has 10000 pack jobs under his belt compared to my 100 trash packs... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsalnukt 1 #8 March 1, 2009 Just because a person is a rigger, doesn't necessarily mean that they have loads of pack jobs (main or reserve) under their belt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genego 2 #9 March 1, 2009 Some people feel that reserves are "generic" and there are specific instructions for packing them. They also feel that their main is different and that they know the opening characteristics of their main better than their rigger. Which may be true. And 10000 reserve pack jobs doesn't mean that you can pack a main either I live with fear and terror, but sometimes I leave her and go skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUBLHED 0 #10 March 1, 2009 I've got one here now same thing. had some container mods done fresh repack of reserve and main. I looked over the mods, checked all the pins, checked the bridle routing. I can't wait to jump it. As said earlier why waste a good pack job? I feel that ANY certified rigger can pack at least as good as I can or better.ATTACK LIFE ! IT'S GOING TO KILL YOU ANYWAY!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #11 March 2, 2009 I always have the rigger give my whole system, including the main, a good once-over at reserve repack time. Seems almost foolish not to. Odd question, frankly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chubba 0 #12 March 2, 2009 Quote Just because a person is a rigger, doesn't necessarily mean that they have loads of pack jobs (main or reserve) under their belt. What if the rigger has 15,000 jumps of his own Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #13 March 2, 2009 I just don't get the point of the question. Thank the rigger and go jump. Many jumpers hand their rig happily off to a virtually unknown "packer" who doesn't hold any ratings, and likely hasn't been in the sport very long. These packjobs are often illegal because they aren't supervised by riggers are required by FARs. Why would someone feel safe with a packer, but worry about the rigger? Riggers have made big investments in their ratings, and have likely been in the sport for years, if not decades...? Also, you trust them for your reserve, but not your main...? Odd. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #14 March 2, 2009 Does it have anything to do with "Well, if the main mals, that means my reserve was packed by the same idiot!" line of reasoning? I like to tease my rigger friends about that when they have cutaways. I would definitely jump any main packed by any rigger that I trust to pack my reserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #15 March 2, 2009 QuoteWhat if the rigger has 15,000 jumps of his own. What, on his reserve? Then I WOULD question his ability to pack a main."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SStewart 13 #16 March 2, 2009 I charge the same to repack a main as I do a reserve. Most folks decide to do the main themselves or hire a packer for $5 bucks. Onward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #17 March 2, 2009 Quote I charge the same to repack a main as I do a reserve. Does it take you the same amount of time? I can't bitch, really. I'm a government employee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #18 March 2, 2009 I wouldn't pop the main and repack it any more than I would pop the reserve and ask a different rigger to do it again. Silly." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cashmanimal 0 #19 March 2, 2009 I know a rigger who only has ~100 jumps, and 2 reserve rides under his own pack jobs.... That being said, 2 of my hardest openings were fresh from repacks... but as someone mentioned earlier, it isn't really their fault, that was just not knowing the opening characteristics of the canopy, which would be a legitimate reason to repack the main right when you get it back...It's all fun and until someone loses an eye... then it's just a game to find the eye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #20 March 2, 2009 Quote Does it have anything to do with "Well, if the main mals, that means my reserve was packed by the same idiot!" line of reasoning? I like to tease my rigger friends about that when they have cutaways. ...................................................................... Sorry, but I lost my sense of humor on that a long time ago. My last conversation involved a huge, angry, (retired) army sargent-major using lots of profanity and trying to blame me for his mistakes. This is the same guy that collided with Roger Ponce under canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #21 March 2, 2009 Sorry to hear that. Yes, I joke with a sense of humor. I wouldn't ever blame anyone for a mal unless I found a molar strap in there somewhere. And I hate people who don't look where they are flying. It's one of the biggest dangers in our sport to me and my wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #22 March 2, 2009 Quote I know a rigger who only has ~100 jumps, and 2 reserve rides under his own pack jobs.... My rigger has over 12 reserve rides on his own pack jobs. He packs my main too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpastniner 0 #23 March 2, 2009 Quote Quote I know a rigger who only has ~100 jumps, and 2 reserve rides under his own pack jobs.... My rigger has over 12 reserve rides on his own pack jobs. He packs my main too. Shit mine has like 25!! i think most of those were back in the good ole days before he was a rigger. (also before they put very much thought into packing mains!)BASE 1384 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cutaway68 4 #24 March 3, 2009 If, on that next jump, you have a mal and a reserve ride, do you get a free repack? Don't Pull Low... Unless You ARE!!! The pessimist says, "It can't get any worse than this." The optimist says, "Sure, it can." Be fun, have safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cashmanimal 0 #25 March 3, 2009 QuoteIf, on that next jump, you have a mal and a reserve ride, do you get a free repack? You pay for pack jobs, not openings... no refunds!It's all fun and until someone loses an eye... then it's just a game to find the eye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
