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Scoop 0
QuoteThat specific picture, the team was at 10k, and yes getting close to the package was the objective. They were on their way to a vessel that had sick/injured crew members
Why on earth would that need a response of skydiving to their position and why would they need SCUBA equipment? Am I missing something?
Clearly I am 
I can understand specialist miltary operations and neccesities but rescue missions!? How odd.
B.A.D.D. 0
the smoke you see is most likely not their target and most likely not the place they are attempting to land. rather id say it was put out as a marker to let the jumpers under canopy know the wind direction. the round cargo chutes you see are most likely a zodiac boat with a motor and possibly their gear also. the jumper is not jumping a round (no static line and wrong way to exit.) and hes probablly wearing scuba gear because even thogh hes jumping a ram air canopy and might be able to land really close to the cargo chutes, he still going to have to do some swimming especially when hes dragging his parachute through the water. the military doesnt look very highly on lost gear and he sure as hell doesnt make enough money a month to buy that rig. last but not least, i really doubt its a rescue mission. it would be a lot smarter to use a helicopter, helo cast in, rescue the ppl then get pulled back on the helicopter to go to land. i mean come on do you think their gonna land the plane in the water to pick them up?
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Quotethe smoke you see is most likely not their target and most likely not the place they are attempting to land. rather id say it was put out as a marker to let the jumpers under canopy know the wind direction. the round cargo chutes you see are most likely a zodiac boat with a motor and possibly their gear also. the jumper is not jumping a round (no static line and wrong way to exit.) and hes probablly wearing scuba gear because even thogh hes jumping a ram air canopy and might be able to land really close to the cargo chutes, he still going to have to do some swimming especially when hes dragging his parachute through the water. the military doesnt look very highly on lost gear and he sure as hell doesnt make enough money a month to buy that rig. last but not least, i really doubt its a rescue mission. it would be a lot smarter to use a helicopter, helo cast in, rescue the ppl then get pulled back on the helicopter to go to land. i mean come on do you think their gonna land the plane in the water to pick them up?
You hit the nail on...the head.
and think quiet "insertion" and add darkness to the scenario.
HALO1 0
QuoteQuoteThat specific picture, the team was at 10k, and yes getting close to the package was the objective. They were on their way to a vessel that had sick/injured crew members
Why on earth would that need a response of skydiving to their position and why would they need SCUBA equipment? Am I missing something?
I can understand specialist miltary operations and neccesities but rescue missions!? How odd.
Scoop - This website may fill in some of your "missing" information.
This was a two man jump made about 350 miles from the Caribbean island of St. Maarten. Emergency truma care was provide to a Chinese fisherman. I have additional photos of same op, but to large to upload.
Don't be sexist… Broads hate that.
BIGUN 1,053
Quotethe military doesnt look very highly on lost gear and he sure as hell doesnt make enough money a month to buy that rig.
If training; is that no longer considered a training loss and not charged to the soldier?
If real-world mission - sink it.
Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.
Marios 0
Hehe thanks.
The more info was in reference to th HALO/Scuba jump not the boogie.
When I am eligible I will try to make there too.
Cheers
The more info was in reference to th HALO/Scuba jump not the boogie.
When I am eligible I will try to make there too.
Cheers
Spatula 0
Actually as the post above says, this WAS a rescue mission and they (PJ) stayed on board the vessel to stabalize the patients. Plus being 350+ NM out...helo's are not always able even with refueling.
Scoop 0
Now this makes sense
There are several types of ParaSCUBA in use in the US military. First is twin-80 open circuit with rounds from low level (static line). We use that when we are doing over the horizon infiltration dives when open circuit is acceptable. Second is closed circuit, Draeger LARV with static-lined rounds from low level. That is used when open circuit SCUBA is unacceptable (dives where one will be swimming in and attaching Limpit mines, etc). Third is Military Freefall with closed circuit equipment. There are two modes of operation even then: lower-level (4000 foot) exits when chasing RAMZ bundles with MC-4's (or whatever people use in your country) and full-on HALO and HAHO jumps when you need to stick with a standard air corridor for cover and plausible deniability. Lastly, I never jumped any dive gear other than my BC, mask and fins if I were chasing a duck. As a former member of both MFF and Combat Dive detachments while on active duty, I did every one of those at one time or another. The worst ones are the SL/open circuit jumps, particularly when you are also jumping a ruck. They simply wore my skinny ass out!
Chuck
MFFJM, Combat Dive Supervisor (among other things)
Chuck
MFFJM, Combat Dive Supervisor (among other things)
They simply wore my skinny ass out!
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That's cuz you're a scrawny little bitchHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower
Cool photo! Thanks for posting it. I've always wanted to do that! One day, maybe. 
QuoteThey simply wore my skinny ass out!
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That's cuz you're a scrawny little bitch
Then I guess you have maybe seen my class's graduation plaque? I shit you not, I didn't weigh 130 pounds when I graduated CDQC in late October 1986 (Fantasy Fest class!). I WAS a scrawny little buck sgt.
(Fantasy Fest class!).
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From all the stories Pat told about fantasy fest it's because you didn't eat the whole time you were down there, you were too busy partying
I was never that small but I joined at 165, I got up to 215 last time I was in IraqHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower
BIGUN,
that quote on the bottom of this post has said the things I have always thought, its very profound. I would like to use it, thank you!!! LOL
that quote on the bottom of this post has said the things I have always thought, its very profound. I would like to use it, thank you!!! LOL
What if the Hokie Pokie really WAS what IT was all about?...
Thats a cool pic. It reminds me of two things,
1. No matter how cool something looks, the miltary take the fun out of it,
and 2. there is somewhere in the world with water, and clean air, unlike here in A-Stan.
Just a few more months!!!!
Rangers Lead the Way!
1. No matter how cool something looks, the miltary take the fun out of it,
and 2. there is somewhere in the world with water, and clean air, unlike here in A-Stan.
Just a few more months!!!!
Rangers Lead the Way!
What if the Hokie Pokie really WAS what IT was all about?...
Or is it BIGSKY's quote
“Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I drink I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and their hopes and dreams. If I didn’t drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say to myself, “It is better that I drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver.”
Whoevers it is, I dig it
“Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I drink I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and their hopes and dreams. If I didn’t drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say to myself, “It is better that I drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver.”
Whoevers it is, I dig it
What if the Hokie Pokie really WAS what IT was all about?...
MikeJD 0
What's that loop attached to the bottom of his fin? Not being a diver, I don't know whether that's standard or not.
Some have said this is a pic from a real rescue mission. Maybe it is. To answer most questions: the smoke is not the target, just a wind direction indicator as someone mentioned. The two canopies is a RAMZ package (Rigging Alternate Method Zodiac). The boat is deflated and wrapped in a neat little package with the outboard motor and bottle to inflate it. They can have additional fuel, food, medical gear, radios, etc. included also as the mission dictates.
Photos can be deceiving but usually these jumps are made from around 3500-5000 feet. If they do land a bit far from the package that is where the training comes in. Air Force pararescuemen, while not well known, have the toughest training of all the special operations forces. They will be in shape enough to make a long swim to the package if they have to.
If it was a real world mission they would have done thorough wind and ocean current conditions briefings and done multiple passes over the drop zone to validate it. They dont want to land upwind/up current from the package.
If its real world they will sink the chutes, training they will be recovered by a safety boat crew. If they get lost on a training mission its usually seen as just a training loss and nothing bad usually happens as its very dangerous training event for the operators and boat crew.
Photos can be deceiving but usually these jumps are made from around 3500-5000 feet. If they do land a bit far from the package that is where the training comes in. Air Force pararescuemen, while not well known, have the toughest training of all the special operations forces. They will be in shape enough to make a long swim to the package if they have to.
If it was a real world mission they would have done thorough wind and ocean current conditions briefings and done multiple passes over the drop zone to validate it. They dont want to land upwind/up current from the package.
If its real world they will sink the chutes, training they will be recovered by a safety boat crew. If they get lost on a training mission its usually seen as just a training loss and nothing bad usually happens as its very dangerous training event for the operators and boat crew.
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