Phil1111 911 #476 July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, ryoder said: Gawd is that hilarious! How many authoritarian regimes have reduced the power of the police??? Perhaps its the "Boogaloo" militia defending the DNC. Because the DNC wouldn't use the US military like trump did. Its all very confusing, where are those gaslighting flash cards. I need to keep track of it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #477 July 6, 2020 This one barely qualifies as "accidental", but it sure has a big dose of "stupid". Don't drink and play with your killing machine at the same time. https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_4d26bc00-befc-11ea-ac4d-17c3c0b4a14e.html The crap going on in Chicagoland? No comment, I just can't get my head around it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #478 July 6, 2020 3 hours ago, wmw999 said: Turtle, you are always defending Trump for balance. And because you can understand that segment of the population. You consistently attack BLM — is that for balance too? The idea of Black Lives Matter is that they are as worth protecting by the police and other institutions of America. Examples of this not being true are disproportionately present in our society. That’s the whole point of the movement. That individuals who aren’t representatives of the society and law enforcement don’t adhere to that is irrelevant — it’s expecting the other guy to be perfect before you’re willing to make any changes Wendy P. For balance? Yeah. I'm calling out the aggrandizing of what is attributed to BLM. I'm no fan of the police as they are now. There should be great changes made. I don't disagree with your comments above about worthiness. Perhaps it is just perception, and you are right, but the imbalance in the amount of shootings and killings done in the urban areas is telling. It is almost that those urban areas and the violence there is celebrated and held up high. It seems that the lifestyle involved is actually sought after. Making a spectacle of a guy like Floyd and putting him on a higher pedestal than even MLK, or, well, Anyone, really. That funeral is something I have never heard of, except maybe for some of the Egyptian pharaohs. Lenin might have been close, I guess. That and things like the tearing down of a mermaid statue because mermaids are racist now.<eyeroll> Evidently there is nothing beyond the label of racist. Not even the tearing down of war memorials that have nothing to do with race. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #479 July 6, 2020 Many of those war memorials were erected during the height of the Jim Crow era, to display power. How does that not have to do with race? Do you know why Emancipation Park in Houston was bordered by streets named for Confederate heroes? Because the city council at the time was pissed that the Blacks has been able to get together and buy some land so they could have a park, too. They couldn’t go to any other park. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #480 July 6, 2020 54 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Making a spectacle of a guy like Floyd and putting him on a higher pedestal than even MLK, or, well, Anyone, really. That funeral is something I have never heard of, except maybe for some of the Egyptian pharaohs. Or Matthew Shepard. Or JFK. Or Malcolm X. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #481 July 7, 2020 7 hours ago, billvon said: Or Matthew Shepard. Or JFK. Or Malcolm X. Gold Plated Coffin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #482 July 7, 2020 8 hours ago, wmw999 said: Many of those war memorials were erected during the height of the Jim Crow era, to display power. How does that not have to do with race? Do you know why Emancipation Park in Houston was bordered by streets named for Confederate heroes? Because the city council at the time was pissed that the Blacks has been able to get together and buy some land so they could have a park, too. They couldn’t go to any other park. Wendy P. Which memorials do you think I was referring to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #483 July 7, 2020 (edited) In a city full of killing machine mayhem a younger child managed to somehow find a loaded one to play with and kill a 6 yo. https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/07/06/31-people-shot-7-dead-including-6-year-old-during-violent-july-4th-weekend-in-philadelphia-police-sources-say/ Edited July 7, 2020 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #484 July 7, 2020 (edited) In the meantime sibling rivalry turns serious when a 4 yo boy shoots his 5 yo sister. Fortunately non fatal, but a head wound. https://www.wxyz.com/news/5-year-old-child-accidentally-shot-in-head-by-4-year-old-sibling-at-redford-twp-home Edited July 7, 2020 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #485 July 8, 2020 Somewhat bizarrely a man shoots at "a charging dog", misses and wounds a child. https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/7/7/21316718/gary-indiana-girl-10-shot-man-fending-dog-cleveland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #486 July 8, 2020 (edited) On 7/6/2020 at 5:41 PM, turtlespeed said: For balance? Yeah. I'm calling out the aggrandizing of what is attributed to BLM. What does that mean? Quote Making a spectacle of a guy like Floyd and putting him on a higher pedestal than even MLK, or, well, Anyone, really. Utter bullshit. No-one is putting Floyd on any form of pedestal. No-one is calling him a saint, or any of the other lies being spewed at you by the right wing media. He is simply a man who was killed when he shouldn't have been. That's it. Quote That funeral is something I have never heard of, What about it have you never heard of? How much attention do you normally reserve for keeping up to date on ostentatious funerals? Jimmy Saville lay in state in a gold coffin to be seen by thousands, had a procession through a city with hundreds following, a requiem mass in a cathedral and was then transported again for burial by the coast - and he turned out to be the most prolific pedophile the UK has ever known. Michael Jackson was buried in a gold coffin too - one of those odd little co-incidences I guess. Quote except maybe for some of the Egyptian pharaohs. Lenin might have been close, I guess. Utter bullshit. The pharoahs were buried in the largest edifices ever created by man at that time, their burials being planned in advance for decades, carried out with the labour of thousands and an equivalent cost of billions of dollars. Lenin's body lay in state for three days before his funeral, both attended by tens of thousands despite the midwinter Moscow weather being -35F, then he was embalmed and left on display for people to see to this day. Neither is remotely close to the funeral of Floyd, and it is ludicrous to suggest that they are. What is it that motivates you to do so? Edited July 8, 2020 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #487 July 8, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jakee said: Neither is remotely close to the funeral of Floyd, and it is ludicrous to suggest that they are. What is it that motivates you to do so? Drama Queens must drama. Meanwhile, on topic.... https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/07/07/man-wounded-in-accidental-shooting-at-west-side-apartment/ Edited July 8, 2020 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #488 July 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Drama Queens must drama. More to the point: Trolls must troll. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #489 July 8, 2020 On 7/7/2020 at 2:20 AM, turtlespeed said: Gold Plated Coffin. Ah, of course you're right, such a thing must be totally unique. Except... why is it so easy to buy one if they're unheard of? Seriously, it amazes me the desire you have to remain willfully ignorant of the truth so that you can make these inane arguments. And here's the other thing that applies regardless of whether gold coffins are ever used otherwise... so Floyd's family wanted to give him an ostentatious casket. So the fuck what? Seriously. What fucking impact does it have on anything else that is happening with the BLM movement that George Floyd's family like gold? What the fuck do you think it means? Why the fuck do you think it reflects how anyone else in the rest of the fucking world thinks about George Floyd? Why does it have any fucking bearing whatsoever on the righteousness or otherwise of the BLM cause, and the current wave of protest sweeping the US and beyond? In short, so his coffin is gold? Why. Do. You. Care? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #490 July 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, ryoder said: More to the point: Trolls must troll. Maybe he's just envious of Floyd Mayweather buying someone a gold casket because he knows he won't get that treatment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #491 July 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, normiss said: Maybe he's just envious of Floyd Mayweather buying someone a gold casket because he knows he won't get that treatment. George Floyd has become a symbol, just a statues of traitors are symbols. Some people prefer traitors I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #492 July 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, gowlerk said: George Floyd has become a symbol, just a statues of traitors are symbols. Some people prefer traitors I guess. That's an ugly comparison. Murdered by cops vs. traitor. Not even remotely comparable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #493 July 8, 2020 On 7/6/2020 at 6:20 PM, turtlespeed said: Gold Plated Coffin. Sounds like Trump! You must think a little more highly of him now. (Although of course you will say you're not _really_ a supporter.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #494 July 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, normiss said: That's an ugly comparison. Murdered by cops vs. traitor. Not even remotely comparable. No, I believe he's talking abut the racists and gormless right wingers who want to protect the celebratory statues of the Confederate traitors while moaning that Floyd's funeral is too much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #495 July 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, jakee said: No, I believe he's talking abut the racists and gormless right wingers who want to protect the celebratory statues of the Confederate traitors while moaning that Floyd's funeral is too much. Ah. Thanks for that, it would seem I misunderstood. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #496 July 8, 2020 52 minutes ago, billvon said: Sounds like Trump! You must think a little more highly of him now. (Although of course you will say you're not _really_ a supporter.) trump and his supporters bemoan the fact that there was $13 million raised in the Go-Fund-me effort for Floyd. Then to top it off Floyd Mayweather paid for the casket. trump of course loves gold, anything gold. His financially challenged supporters have the $13 million to deal with then the donation of the casket. Knowing that they will never have so many to mourn their loss. trump's death will probably be met with cheering and celebration. Then the issues that Floyd is Black and celebrated for a uprising of conscious that they can't understand. Because "white power" blinds them to the support Floyd enjoys. They need to go back to Tucker Carlson to understand these bubbling grievances. Tucker will bring clarity to their empty minds so befuddled by a casket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #497 July 10, 2020 Children playing with killing machines. I don't blame them, if I had some to play with at that age I would have for sure. Only a flesh wound, thankfully for the 10 yo victim. https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/police-investigating-child-shot-mcguffey-road/530-0c2fa666-8059-4017-a0dc-654b2cc8728b Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 4 #498 July 11, 2020 18 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said: Maybe this is why Cover Girl and actress Jennifer O' Neill has been married nine times to date. Anyone (including herself) who hangs out with her becomes accident-prone: Oh, brother. She didn't die, if you're wondering. If you really think it was an accident, I got a bridge to sell you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #499 July 11, 2020 On 7/6/2020 at 10:21 PM, RobertMBlevins said: Terry Kath, former singer and guitarist with the band, Chicago. He was REALLY stupid that day. 'Look...the gun's not loaded' stories are the worst. No link. I will just quote the entry: 'By 1978, Kath was regularly carrying guns around and enjoyed shooting them. Around 5 p.m. Pacific Standard Time on Monday, January 23, after a party in Woodland Hills, Kath began to play with his guns. He spun his .38 revolver on his finger, put it to his temple, and pulled the trigger. The gun was not loaded. Johnson (equipment guy and roadie) warned Kath several times to be careful. Kath then picked up a semi-automatic 9-mm pistol and, leaning back in a chair, said to Johnson, "Don't worry about it ... look, the clip's not even in it." Those were his last words. To assuage Johnson's concerns, Kath showed Johnson the empty magazine. Kath then replaced the magazine in the gun, put the gun to his temple and pulled the trigger. Unbeknownst to Kath, the semi-automatic had a round in the chamber. He died instantly from the gunshot, eight days shy of his 32nd birthday..." BIG difference between accident and idiot. But I can totally get behind the theme of "guns aren't toys" so treat them accordingly... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #500 July 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, RobertMBlevins said: The only thing I know about O'Neill is that millions of young boys had a sudden crush on her when the movie Summer of '42 was released. Oh, her!!! Hell, yes!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites