rushmc 18 #851 July 13, 2017 billvon>He is currently defending him! Of course he is tweeting that he does. But don't forget - historically, most of what he says is false. Once Trump Jr. goes down for this, Trump will distance himself as much as possible. "Look, I support him 100% - but I didn't know about the meeting, I wasn't there, and it had nothing to do with me. It was all him." Actually Most of what you post about him is what is false"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #852 July 13, 2017 It would be interesting to hear what you think those emails show? What is your analysis of them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #853 July 13, 2017 SkyDekkerIt would be interesting to hear what you think those emails show? What is your analysis of them? Which email ?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #854 July 13, 2017 Ah, that explains it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #855 July 13, 2017 RushMC does not know of this "email" thing you speak of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #856 July 13, 2017 rushmc http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-rendezvous-french-president-macron-paris-bastille-day/story?id=48600009 Posted inside the last 10 minutes. You make this easy Bill........ You really do make this easy Rush - did you notice how Trump made a specific point of stating that it was just a Russian lawyer, not a Russian government lawyer? Do you think that's because there would be something pretty dodgy about meeting with a Russian government lawyer? Because the email chain explicitly told Trump Jr that the meeting he was setting up was going to be with "The Russian government attorney"Oh, and it's also the first sighting of a brand new excuse - "he was in the meeting but wasn't paying attention"Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #857 July 13, 2017 rushmc ***It would be interesting to hear what you think those emails show? What is your analysis of them? Which email ? Oh it's just so cute when you think you're being clever!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #858 July 13, 2017 billvon>He is currently defending him! Of course he is tweeting that he does. But don't forget - historically, most of what he says is false. Once Trump Jr. goes down for this, Trump will distance himself as much as possible. "Look, I support him 100% - but I didn't know about the meeting, I wasn't there, and it had nothing to do with me. It was all him." Perhaps we could get Joe Pete LaRusso (Bail Bondsman and SOS skydiver) to send Trump one of his tee shirts that says: "I Didn't Do It It Wasn't Me' I Wasn't Even There"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #859 July 13, 2017 SkyDekker Ah, that explains it. Jrs email? the ones that I supplied the link to? what about them? Nothing incriminating there! If you think otherwise state the broken statue? But, you will not be able to because no one else can either. Political blunder? Yes Criminal act? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #860 July 13, 2017 jakee ***http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-rendezvous-french-president-macron-paris-bastille-day/story?id=48600009 Posted inside the last 10 minutes. You make this easy Bill........ You really do make this easy Rush - did you notice how Trump made a specific point of stating that it was just a Russian lawyer, not a Russian government lawyer? Do you think that's because there would be something pretty dodgy about meeting with a Russian government lawyer? Because the email chain explicitly told Trump Jr that the meeting he was setting up was going to be with "The Russian government attorney"Oh, and it's also the first sighting of a brand new excuse - "he was in the meeting but wasn't paying attention"Your disappointment when this all blows over is going to be extreme."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #861 July 13, 2017 rushmc ***Ah, that explains it. Jrs email? the ones that I supplied the link to? what about them? Nothing incriminating there! If you think otherwise state the broken statue? But, you will not be able to because no one else can either. Political blunder? Yes Criminal act? The question is if it breaks the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 as amended. There are lawyers who say he did, there are lawyers who say he didn't. From my reading of the act, I think he did. I could explain to you why, but would likely just get some stupid one liner with an emoji in response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #862 July 14, 2017 It kind of blows me off that it escapes some people that politicians of any stripe are narcissistic wankers. It reminds me of the Onion tee shirt that says 'the sports team from my area is superior to the sports team from our area.' At least with the Onion it's a joke. The fact that people get all breathless saying 'the guy/gal/other that I oppose is a complete asshole!' simply amazes me. So what else is new? News flash - the guy/gal/other that you support is equally an asshole. Being a misanthrope helps to keep one's outlook balanced, if unfair. As you were. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #863 July 14, 2017 I get your point. But Trump is a special level of asshole. Even many on his own team think so.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #864 July 14, 2017 >It kind of blows me off that it escapes some people that politicians of any stripe >are narcissistic wankers. This sort of false equivalency is odd, but I guess understandable. It takes away personal responsibility for any outcome. "Well, sure, I supported Jim Jones. But all those religious sorts are just as bad. Certainly not a mistake on my part." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #865 July 14, 2017 billvon>It kind of blows me off that it escapes some people that politicians of any stripe >are narcissistic wankers. This sort of false equivalency is odd, but I guess understandable. It takes away personal responsibility for any outcome. "Well, sure, I supported Jim Jones. But all those religious sorts are just as bad. Certainly not a mistake on my part." It's like someone who bitches about beavers but tolerates termites. In the long run the Catholic Church has made ISIS look like rank amateurs when it comes to death and destruction, but there is the appearance of civilization that makes it 'acceptable.' It is beyond ironic that the symbol of the Roman organization that ostensibly follows a nice Jewish boy is the means by which Rome executed him. The People's Temple was acute, Christianity in general is chronic; Jonestown resolved itself in short order, but the various sects that persist are orders of magnitude more destructive in the long run. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #866 July 14, 2017 New report that the lawyer was accompanied by a "former" Russian intelligence officer.... Edited to add: with a particular expertise: negative public-relations campaigns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #867 July 14, 2017 winsor***>It kind of blows me off that it escapes some people that politicians of any stripe >are narcissistic wankers. This sort of false equivalency is odd, but I guess understandable. It takes away personal responsibility for any outcome. "Well, sure, I supported Jim Jones. But all those religious sorts are just as bad. Certainly not a mistake on my part." It's like someone who bitches about beavers but tolerates termites. More like thinking being ripped off for $5 by a street kid is equivalent to being scammed out of $500,000 by Bernie Madoff.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #868 July 14, 2017 Basically this is what happened to the whole of the USA: https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?t=6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #869 July 14, 2017 From that arch pinko-liberal lefty Charles Krauthammer: www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bungled-collusion-is-still-collusion/2017/07/13/68c7f72a-67f3-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?utm_term=.379cd71c1243&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1 "Bungled collusion is still collusion"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #870 July 14, 2017 Well, now there's a death. https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-activist-who-sought-clinton-emails-killed-self-1500002994?mod=e2fb WSJ article, sometimes these links only go to a paywall. QuotePeter W. Smith, a Republican political activist and financier from Chicago who mounted an effort to obtain former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s emails from Russian hackers, died on May 14 after asphyxiating himself in a hotel room in Rochester, Minn... ...a pile of documents and a statement that police called a suicide note were found with his body. The note said that Mr. Smith had been ill and that he held a life-insurance policy that was due to expire, the Tribune reported. Mr. Smith apologized in the note and said that “no foul play whatsoever” had occurred with his death, according to the Tribune... Well, obviously, if the note found by the body says that there was no foul play, then nothing suspicious happened. Could be he was really sick. Could be he saw the writing on the wall and knew what was coming with respect to Russia and Trump, could be that he was killed to silence him. I honestly don't know which, but given the conspiracy stories that surrounded Vince Foster's death, Alex Jones and his ilk should be foaming at the mouth... Except that it's their guy this time."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #871 July 14, 2017 Quote Except that it's their guy this time. So...... false flag then?Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 261 #872 July 14, 2017 Quote https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-activist-who-sought-clinton-emails-killed-self-1500002994?mod=e2fb WSJ article, sometimes these links only go to a paywall. In this case the workaround was easy, at least for me: Turn off Javascript and reload. (I keep an Extension button on my Firefox toolbar to do that) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #873 July 14, 2017 >It's like someone who bitches about beavers but tolerates termites. "That beaver toppled that tree and took out my car, and I didn't even know he was out there! Well, there's certainly nothing anyone can do about termites, then. They're all the same. It blows me away that people think there is any difference." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #874 July 14, 2017 Well, that didn't take long. July 10. Mark Corallo (Trump's legal spokesman) - "The President was not aware of, and did not attend, the meeting." Trump on Air Force 1 July 13: "In fact maybe it was mentioned at some point." He is having more and more trouble keeping his lies straight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #875 July 14, 2017 And some new messaging to go with it: Maybe it is a little bit of collusion, but it isn't systemic and it didn't alter the outcome. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/14/kellyanne-conway-just-set-the-modern-record-for-political-spin/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.9fce8324b3e4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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