SkyDekker 1,136 #2351 February 24, 2018 QuoteAll I know is that Canadians come to America to satisfy their needs, wants and desires. And to laugh. Laugh a lot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aonsquared 9 #2352 February 24, 2018 RonD1120 Where in the world today is this concept working? I can only think of China, maybe. However, I do not think the people have the power. Is it working in Canada? I have very little knowledge regarding life in Canada. All I know is that Canadians come to America to satisfy their needs, wants and desires. That is my opinion based on my experiences living in FL. I think you even once mentioned that you are a truck driver in America to earn a living. Um, what? You seem to have very little knowledge of life outside the US in general. China and liberalism? What are you smoking? I've lived both in the US and Canada, and in my opinion life in Canada is far, far better than in the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #2353 February 24, 2018 RonD1120 *** You say that liberalism is about taking power and control. It is. It is about taking power and control away from the elites and giving it to more people. Where in the world today is this concept working? I can only think of China, maybe. However, I do not think the people have the power. Is it working in Canada? I have very little knowledge regarding life in Canada. All I know is that Canadians come to America to satisfy their needs, wants and desires. That is my opinion based on my experiences living in FL. I think you even once mentioned that you are a truck driver in America to earn a living. Seems, you have no knowledge at all about the world outside the US. And about liberalism. And even less ideas about China. What could be the *needs, wants and desires* motivating the Canadians to come to the US? Perhaps the thriving porn industry in the US, blooming like crazy? I'm in Canada at least twice a year and sometimes, love to go to NY or LA during these trips for few days. But, there is always such a huge difference between Canada and the US - already starting when crossing the border. I'm feeling home in Canada but, never in the US. I'm walking the streets in Toronto or elsewhere in Canada like I'm doing at home - careful but, not much expecting to be shot behind every corner like in the US Still wondering what you think the Canadians are looking for in the US .... (OK, beaches and such) Every time I'm reading your posts I'm wondering how on earth you managed to come to a certain conclusion - admitting always that you are living behind/in the mountains, so to say outside a normal contact with the world outside. OK, there is TV (Fox) and the internet but, still .... No, you definitely know nothing (or forgot) about the world. Your posts are a good laughingstock BTW: What makes you think you should post about the job others - f. e. Canadians - are doing for a living? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,640 #2354 February 24, 2018 christelsabine I'm feeling home in Canada but, never in the US. I'm walking the streets in Toronto or elsewhere in Canada like I'm doing at home - careful but, not much expecting to be shot behind every corner like in the US Oh for goodness sakes. I live and worked (I am now retired) in Chicago - in the city itself, not the 'burbs. Chicago is regularly (and falsely) claimed by the gun lobby as being exceptionally dangerous and having the toughest gun laws.** I walk the streets in my neighborhood, and downtown, without ever giving a thought to being shot. So do my former colleagues and my neighbors. ** On a per capita basis, Chicago doesn't even make the top 25 of dangerous cities in the USA, and since 2014 it hasn't had the toughest gun laws either.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #2355 February 24, 2018 kallend *** I'm feeling home in Canada but, never in the US. I'm walking the streets in Toronto or elsewhere in Canada like I'm doing at home - careful but, not much expecting to be shot behind every corner like in the US Oh for goodness sakes. I live and worked (I am now retired) in Chicago - in the city itself, not the 'burbs. Chicago is regularly (and falsely) claimed by the gun lobby as being exceptionally dangerous and having the toughest gun laws.** I walk the streets in my neighborhood, and downtown, without ever giving a thought to being shot. So do my former colleagues and my neighbors. ** On a per capita basis, Chicago doesn't even make the top 25 of dangerous cities in the USA, and since 2014 it hasn't had the toughest gun laws either. Maybe, never saw Chicago. But, that does not change my personal feeling regarding the US vs Canada. I suppose you are not living in critical areas of Chicago, right? It's much more the way I have been treated as a *stranger*: In Canada, even at the border with all necessary formalities, they were polite, open and friendly. As soon as I entered the border to US, I was met with unfriendly harsh commands, had to wait for hours w/o beeing informed why, and that nearly every time I crossed the border from Canada into the US (to my surprise: Not when coming into the US directly from Europe, that was quite easy). Undoubtedly, I feel much better in Canada. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #2356 February 25, 2018 kallendI walk the streets in my neighborhood, and downtown, without ever giving a thought to being shot. So do my former colleagues and my neighbors. I've found that to be the case nearly everywhere I've been in the US, even places about which well-meaning locals will offer warning. The streets are not nearly as dangerous in reality as they are in some people's fantasies. (By "some people" I'm not referring to christelsabine, rather the folks who are afraid to go to the store without being armed.)Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,421 #2357 February 25, 2018 >I'm feeling home in Canada but, never in the US. I'm walking the streets in Toronto or >elsewhere in Canada like I'm doing at home - careful but, not much expecting to be shot > behind every corner like in the US About 20 years ago I was in Belfast and met a woman there. We planned to have dinner the following night. The next morning she called me and said "sorry, have to change plans. The cleaners next to the restaurant got bombed so that place is closed now. Don't worry; it happens sometimes, nothing to be worried about. So instead let's go to XXX." We met there and had dinner. She told me she was planning to come to the US, but wasn't sure it was safe, with all the highway shootings and whatnot. Everyone is more comfortable with where they are and in environments they are more familiar with (with a few notable exceptions, seen here.) Even if their "normal" is bombings by the IRA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aonsquared 9 #2358 February 25, 2018 Apologies if my reply to Ron unintentionally offended, I should not have made a sweeping generalisation about a huge country like the US. I spent time in Toronto, and Calgary in Canada, and in Los Angeles in the US. I was even in LA during the race riots in 1992 and obviously the availability of firearms and crime is an issue. Given a perceived insult from Ron about Canada, I made a sweeping generalisation about the US in Canada's defence which was unfair. Apologies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #2359 February 25, 2018 billvon >I'm feeling home in Canada but, never in the US. I'm walking the streets in Toronto or >elsewhere in Canada like I'm doing at home - careful but, not much expecting to be shot > behind every corner like in the US About 20 years ago I was in Belfast and met a woman there. We planned to have dinner the following night. The next morning she called me and said "sorry, have to change plans. The cleaners next to the restaurant got bombed so that place is closed now. Don't worry; it happens sometimes, nothing to be worried about. So instead let's go to XXX." We met there and had dinner. She told me she was planning to come to the US, but wasn't sure it was safe, with all the highway shootings and whatnot. Everyone is more comfortable with where they are and in environments they are more familiar with (with a few notable exceptions, seen here.) Even if their "normal" is bombings by the IRA. Nice example Just a wild guess: I think that 20 yrs ago, nearly nobody from today's European mainland would have enjoyed a dinner in Belfast. Nowadays, bad news come across the pond quicker and easier than ever (round trip) - thus, influencing the opinions of alien visitors much more. Especially as so many Americans insist on their 2nd amendment even it's killing the weakest of society. Not to forget all those bullet filled (age old) western movies and the newer series such like NCIS (I loved that black good looking dude Morgan) .... the US is a country full of weapons, be careful people! That's marching order. The US in *our* view is a country riddled with guns. That's buried in the back of the head. (Same refers to American view that Germans still are being Nazi - now you have your own racist in power). Just to know how many US citizens are walking around being armed (CCW) is inconceivable to me. I'll never forget what Bill Cole (RIP) told me when years ago we were walking to a photo shop in a small town somewhere near Toronto: We're the Swiss of North America, that's why you feel comfortable. (JFI: I disagreed with most of his opinions but, had to agree to that statement). He was right. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,421 #2360 February 26, 2018 Latest update: Gates will now cooperate. The charges he pled guilty to will be: 1) Conspiracy against the United States for "impeding, impairing, obstructing and defeating the lawful governmental functions of a government agency, namely" the Justice Department and the Treasury Department. 2) Making false statements. Gates lied to the special counsel and the FBI on Feb. 1 about a meeting that took place in March 2013 and was attended by Manafort, a "senior lobbyist" and Rep. Dana Rorabacher. He claimed that there were "no discussions about Ukraine at the meeting." In fact they talked about Ukraine quite a bit. In return for dropping the rest of the charges, he will testify against Manafort. That means that, effectively, Manafort will go down unless he can make a VERY good deal with Mueller. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,055 #2361 February 26, 2018 Hi Bill, QuoteManafort will go down unless he can make a VERY good deal with Mueller. In Watergate, the rats ( except for Liddy ) could not talk fast enough. The White House is not very good training for spending time in prison. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,393 #2362 February 26, 2018 JerryBaumchenHi Bill, QuoteManafort will go down unless he can make a VERY good deal with Mueller. In Watergate, the rats ( except for Liddy ) could not talk fast enough. The White House is not very good training for spending time in prison. Jerry Baumchen Then after they served their time, they showed up playing crime-boss-of-the-week on primetime crime shows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y991Gir5D-E"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #2363 February 26, 2018 yoink***. If he shouts Allahu Akbar in my church I will draw my weapon. Wow. Just. FUCKING. Wow. Yeah, that's Team American World Police cartoon level understanding."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #2364 February 26, 2018 DJL******. If he shouts Allahu Akbar in my church I will draw my weapon. Wow. Just. FUCKING. Wow. Yeah, that's Team American World Police cartoon level understanding. And a great example of how some people adamantly claim to be Christians while remaining completely oblivious to the teaching of Christ.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #2365 February 26, 2018 jcd11235*********. If he shouts Allahu Akbar in my church I will draw my weapon. Wow. Just. FUCKING. Wow. Yeah, that's Team American World Police cartoon level understanding. And a great example of how some people adamantly claim to be Christians while remaining completely oblivious to the teaching of Christ. It's the same mentality that resulted in situations of people killing Sihk Indians because they thought a turban meant they were Muslims."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #2366 February 26, 2018 To be fair, if someone walked into a church and yelled "grilled cheese sandwich" I would probably go into vigilant mode, too. Someone yelling anything in a public place with no context is pretty weird. Why a Muslim would yell "Allua Akbar" in church is beyond me, but if they did it would be weird and probably rightly result in people being sketched out. On the other hand, if Ron greeting a man at his church and the man warmly smiled and said "a salaam allakum" then drawing a weapon would be uncalled for. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,421 #2367 February 26, 2018 And in recent news - The Democratic memo doesn't have too much new information. It noted that the FBI had a lot more information than just the Steele dossier to justify surveillance of Gates, which we knew already. And it noted that the investigations into the four currently-charged Trump campaigners/adminstration officials started before the election, which was suspected but not clear until now. We are now up to four people high up in Trump's administration and/or campaign who have been indicted for their crimes - - Gates, for a long list of charges including conspiracy against the US. He pled guilty to a reduced list of charges in return for his cooperation with the investigation. - Papadopoulis, for another long list of charges. He met with a Russian agent who promised "dirt" on Clinton, then lied about it to the FBI. He pled guilty. - Flynn, for lying about conversations he had with the Russian ambassador. He pled guilty. - Manafort, for conspiracy against the US, tax fraud and several other charges. He has maintained his innocence, which will be harder to do now that his partner (Gates) is willing to testify against him. As more people plead guilty to lying about the extent of their collusion with Russia, more facts come out. As of the latest count, there were 12 Trump associates who were in direct contact with Russians during the campaign or transition, and at least 19 face to face meetings with them. There were 51 recorded communications (emails, meetings, phone calls) between the campaign and Russians. This, of course, flies in the face of the many denials that Trump and his team have made over contact with Russians. "Russia is a ruse. I have nothing to do with Russia. Haven't made a phone call to Russia in years. ... I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge no person that I deal with does." (Trump) The campaign was "not aware of any campaign representatives that were in touch with any foreign entities" during the election. "There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign." (Hicks) The growing disconnect between the Trump administration claims and the evidence is going to make it harder and harder for Trump to find a way out of this that does not either involve admitting that he WAS in close contact with the Russians, or perjury. His best defense is likely to be "well, I had no idea that all my people were talking to Russia!" - but again that's going to be hard to defend, given the very close timing between Russian releases of information to the campaign and his tweets containing the same material. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #2368 February 26, 2018 That's a surprisingly hearty nothingburger! Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,640 #2369 February 26, 2018 But, but . . . . Hillary! Obama!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #2370 February 27, 2018 kallendBut, but . . . . Hillary! Obama! Benghazi! Benghazi! Somebody should investigate Benghazi!Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #2371 February 27, 2018 jcd11235***But, but . . . . Hillary! Obama! Benghazi! Benghazi! Somebody should investigate Benghazi! Ah yes, back in the days when investigating things for years and spending loads of money was all the rage. What changed?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,349 #2372 February 27, 2018 DJL******But, but . . . . Hillary! Obama! Benghazi! Benghazi! Somebody should investigate Benghazi! Ah yes, back in the days when investigating things for years and spending loads of money was all the rage. What changed? The ones in charge of "investigating" are the same side as those being investigated. Go figure."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,421 #2373 February 27, 2018 Some public takes on the issue, from an SSRS/ORC International/Gallup poll: http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/02/26/rel3c.-.russia.pdf Do you approve or disapprove of the way Robert Mueller is handling the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election? Approve 47% Disapprove 33% Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election? Approve 30% Disapprove 55% Thinking about the investigation into Russian efforts to influence the U.S. presidential election in 2016, which comes closer to your point of view about it? A serious matter 61% An effort to discredit Trump 34% Do you think Donald Trump has attempted to interfere with the investigation into Russian efforts to influence the U.S. presidential election in 2016, or do you think he has not attempted to interfere with that investigation? Interfered 55% Not interfered 38% ====================== From all polls I've seen, there's a core of about 35% of Americans who will support Trump no matter what, and about a 55% of Americans who have serious doubts about his intentions and ability to lead. This is seen both in the general approval ratings and specific polls like the one above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,640 #2374 February 27, 2018 billvon From all polls I've seen, there's a core of about 35% of Americans who will support Trump no matter what, That's the % of Americans with IQ<94... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,421 #2375 February 28, 2018 jcd11235***But, but . . . . Hillary! Obama! Benghazi! Benghazi! Somebody should investigate Benghazi! You laugh - but here's the latest deflection straight from NRA TV: ========================================= GRANT STINCHFIELD (HOST): You know, I can’t help but draw comparisons to Benghazi. Now that was a terrorist attack, you could make the argument that this guy was a terrorist in what he rained down on that school. You had so many warnings, Kris, you and the men that you fought with over there warned about Benghazi over and over again that there were threats and there were security flaws and issues there. Now we see that there were warnings over and over again. We as Americans, I’m sad to say, we’re not learning lessons from other events and we could have learned – whether it was Benghazi or any other school shooting, this school wasn’t ready and they should have been. KRIS PARONTO: That’s because we let politicians and political correctness, and that was in Benghazi and that was also in Florida, take charge. We’re not looking at common sense anymore, we’re letting agendas drive this. And when we let agendas drive this, we let left-wing agendas drive this, and I'm going to say this specifically when we let left-wing agendas drive this, this is what we see. We see loss of life. We see people die. If that isn't just a common denominator on this whole thing then people need to, again, wake up. I’m telling you to wake up. You gotta stop listening to the left-wing politicians. If you do we’re going to keep seeing this catastrophic events. We’re going to see the decline of morality in society which is partly responsible for this as well. (plays clip of sheriff) STINCHFIELD: It sounds like Hillary Clinton “What difference does it make?” This is what liberal leadership gets you. No responsibility, no accountability, we’ve got people dead from Benghazi, we’ve got people dead at Parkland and liberal leadership is at the height of all of it. ============================================= So it's all Hillary Clinton's fault. Guns have NOTHING to do with the Florida shooting or Benghazi. Benghazi! Benghazi! (Now I know what you are thinking - the NRA has a TV channel? Why yes they do.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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