jclalor 12 #1 August 19, 2013 I can't wait to see the nutter right tell Cruz he is ineligible to run for President, as he was not Born in the US. http://news.msn.com/us/sen-cruz-releases-birth-info-amid-talk-of-2016-run Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #2 August 19, 2013 McCain was pretty close to the edge, but this? I can't see how anyone who fought on the birther side can possibly allow Cruz to even consider running.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #3 August 19, 2013 Because Canada is closer to the United States than Hawaii is.You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #4 August 19, 2013 Hmmm...how much father away is Mexico? quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #5 August 19, 2013 quade Hmmm...how much father away is Mexico? Mexico is very far away from Canada. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #6 August 19, 2013 quadeMcCain was pretty close to the edge, but this? I can't see how anyone who fought on the birther side can possibly allow Cruz to even consider running. Actually, this might help illuminate a point that the whole Obama birther thing passed over entirely - if he had been born in Kenya would it actually have mattered?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #7 August 19, 2013 twice as far.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #8 August 19, 2013 In all seriousness, if Obama had been born in Chicago to parents who were both natural born U.S. citizens, it wouldn't have mattered.You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #9 August 19, 2013 IagoSo what if BHO was born in Kenya? His mother was an American that mkes him an American by birth. That was my take. Which just made the whole song and dance funnier. Even if we'd fallen into some parallel universe where the birthers were right the Obama camp could just have met them with "Ok. So what?"Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #10 August 20, 2013 ***IagoSo what if BHO was born in Kenya? His mother was an American that mkes him an American by birth. Simply being an American does not qualify one to be President, you must be a "natural born American", that is born on American soil. No one ever claimed that Obama was not an American, that was the whole birther argument, he may have been an American, but he was not a natural born American. Cruz was born in Canada, to an American mother and a Cuban father, who had permanent Canadian residency. Canada bestows it's citizenship on the children of those who have permanent Canadian residency, thus meaning Cruz has dual citizenship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #11 August 20, 2013 jclalor***So what if BHO was born in Kenya? His mother was an American that mkes him an American by birth. Simply being an American does not qualify one to be President, you must be a "natural born American", that is born on American soil. No one ever claimed that Obama was not an American, that was the whole birther argument, he may have been an American, but he was not a natural born American. citing Wiki: "The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth", either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth". Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an "alien" required to go through the legal process of "naturalization" to become a U.S. citizen." IOW, it doesn't matter if he was born in Kenya or not. The GOP learned to stop harping about draft dodgers as soon as they ran out of WWII veterans and got to Dubya, and even evolved to mocking the service of actual veterans Gore and Kerry. If Cruz gets any traction (and Trump still doesn't), then they'll drop it for good, or weasel with some clarification law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #12 August 20, 2013 kelpdiver******So what if BHO was born in Kenya? His mother was an American that mkes him an American by birth. Simply being an American does not qualify one to be President, you must be a "natural born American", that is born on American soil. No one ever claimed that Obama was not an American, that was the whole birther argument, he may have been an American, but he was not a natural born American. citing Wiki: "The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth", either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth". Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an "alien" required to go through the legal process of "naturalization" to become a U.S. citizen." IOW, it doesn't matter if he was born in Kenya or not. The GOP learned to stop harping about draft dodgers as soon as they ran out of WWII veterans and got to Dubya, and even evolved to mocking the service of actual veterans Gore and Kerry. If Cruz gets any traction (and Trump still doesn't), then they'll drop it for good, or weasel with some clarification law. Pretty hilarious. I can honestly say I never bothered to research the requirements to be considered a citizen at birth. But of course I never buy into right wing conspiracy theories either, so I never wasted much time on the whole 'birther' thing. I can remember some pretty energetic posts about it though from the resident righties here. Cracks me up that it wouldn't even matter if the dude was born in Kenya or not. Hahah. Well his middle name is still HUSSEIN! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #13 August 20, 2013 This may make a difference... http://home.myhughesnet.com/news/read/category/Top%20News/article/ap-tea_party_favorite_cruz_releases_birth_c-ap Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #14 August 20, 2013 masterrigThis may make a difference... http://home.myhughesnet.com/news/read/category/Top%20News/article/ap-tea_party_favorite_cruz_releases_birth_c-ap Chuck "Cruz is a favorite of many of the same conservative groups who raised "birther" concerns about Obama, however, and questions about his eligibility to become president because he was born in Canada have not caused as much of a stir — at least not yet." Hahaha no shit. They are all sitting around going 'oh fuck, we did it again, talked a bunch of shit and it came back to bite us. Damnit.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxmadmax 8 #15 August 20, 2013 So what if we have a Kenyan president? It's time for a Canadian! Don't go away mad....just go away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #16 August 20, 2013 Bignugget***This may make a difference... http://home.myhughesnet.com/news/read/category/Top%20News/article/ap-tea_party_favorite_cruz_releases_birth_c-ap Chuck "Cruz is a favorite of many of the same conservative groups who raised "birther" concerns about Obama, however, and questions about his eligibility to become president because he was born in Canada have not caused as much of a stir — at least not yet." Hahaha no shit. They are all sitting around going 'oh fuck, we did it again, talked a bunch of shit and it came back to bite us. Damnit.' Hell, both sides look for the slightest thing so as to get the 'edge' on opponents. They're politicians. that's what they do. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #17 August 20, 2013 maxmadmaxSo what if we have a Kenyan president? It's time for a Canadian! Personally I want to see an Austrian President. We wouldn't need guns if we had a Terminator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #18 August 20, 2013 QuoteSimply being an American does not qualify one to be President, you must be a "natural born American", that is born on American soil. Oh yeah? Sez who?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,398 #19 August 20, 2013 maxmadmax So what if we have a Kenyan president? It's time for a Canadian! We almost had a Panamanian in the last election."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #20 August 20, 2013 QuoteMcCain was pretty close to the edge McCain was a terrible choice, but no where near the edge. He was born on a military post. QuoteI can't see how anyone who fought on the birther side can possibly allow Cruz to even consider running. I can't wait to see those that told the birthers to shut up about it suddenly care about the issue now that it is Cruz and not Obama. For the record, most of you on here try to claim I am a birther. Because I did support asking to see Obama's BC (as anyone running for President should be required to provide, IMO). But once that was provided it was a done deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #21 August 20, 2013 jakeeQuoteSimply being an American does not qualify one to be President, you must be a "natural born American", that is born on American soil. Oh yeah? Sez who? The tea party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #22 August 20, 2013 jakee the Obama camp could just have met them with "Ok. So what?" They do that ALOT. Fast and Furious (buried) So what? Benghazi (Hillary) What difference does it make? Egypt (Yes it was a military coup) Too bad - We'll just do as we want, So what Ft. Hood (Yes it was a terror attack) But that looks bad - so So what, its"Workplace Violence" the list goes on and on . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #23 August 20, 2013 DaVinciQuoteMcCain was pretty close to the edge McCain was a terrible choice, but no where near the edge. He was born on a military post. ***I can't see how anyone who fought on the birther side can possibly allow Cruz to even consider running. I can't wait to see those that told the birthers to shut up about it suddenly care about the issue now that it is Cruz and not Obama. For the record, most of you on here try to claim I am a birther. Because I did support asking to see Obama's BC (as anyone running for President should be required to provide, IMO). But once that was provided it was a done deal. Tell Donald Trump that! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #24 August 20, 2013 QuoteTell Donald Trump that! Donald Trump is a pretty significant blowhard. I would not consider him a valid source of anything but how to get publicity or deal in real estate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,064 #25 August 20, 2013 Hi Chuck, Quote both sides look for the slightest thing so as to get the 'edge' on opponents. They're politicians. that's what they do. This quote should be at the very top of SC for all to see prior to posting or replying. It is the rules of the game. Well put, sir, JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
