CarpeDiem3 0 #1 November 24, 2012 News: National German gun registry on target for launch Quote: "The German interior minister has said a countrywide database of all legal gun owners is set for launch on January 1. Hans-Peter Friedrich predicted a "considerable increase in security" as a result." http://www.dw.de/national-german-gun-registry-on-target-for-launch/a-16390894 It's about time that America caught up with the EU and got these killer weapons under control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueblur 0 #2 November 24, 2012 Quoteand got these killer weapons under control. yeah cuz damn if my rifle didn't grow legs, walk out of my closet and go on a fucking shooting rampage last night. My concealed carry 9mm on the other hand... not so sure. Even tho it has 20% the ammo capacity, it's been looking at me a little crazy lately. jesus man...In every man's life he will be allotted one good woman and one good dog. That's all you get, so appreciate them while the time you have with them lasts. - RiggerLee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #3 November 24, 2012 Don't forget the knives, bats, bottles, hammers and other 'killer weapons' What about in the UK? We've had most of our hand guns and semi automatic rifles (with the exception of rimfire) taken away and yet our gun crime has risen since the ban? Clearly your argument is a nonsense and is either hasn't been given any thought or more likely is simply a poor attempt to engender extreme reactions. Seriously if you want to actually debate the subject then great, stop posting several threads all about the same thing, stick with one and give a logical thought out argument for your position. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #4 November 24, 2012 The good reasons are in the article - did you read it? Once central registry instead of over 500 independent registries. Tracing done with one query, instead of taking three or four months. This is a good crime-fighting tool, and the police are in favor of it. They deserve to have the tools needed to do their job. If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #5 November 24, 2012 Canada just recently scrapped it's brain dead long gun registry. How about them apples? Besides there are millions and millions of unregistered assets lying dormant in Western Canada. If they are never needed, they will never be used. But should the need for them ever arise, there they are. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueblur 0 #6 November 24, 2012 The problem with a national or continental registry is it makes it easier to target legal owners and collectors if (some say when) a full-on firearms ban and confiscation is threatened. That won't happen in the US without another revolution, but consider this... if you're planning a confiscation, wouldn't it be nice to know exactly where those rifles are so you know who to go after first? They wouldn't be worried about granny with a carry permit and a .38 revolver, but the enthusiast with a safe of black rifles and a reloading room would be need for concern in their eyes (esp. considering his patriotism to the Constitution and 2nd Amendment). That endgame is very scary for the rights of the free.In every man's life he will be allotted one good woman and one good dog. That's all you get, so appreciate them while the time you have with them lasts. - RiggerLee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutem 0 #7 November 24, 2012 Here is some interesting reading on the history of German "gun control". http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,412 #8 November 24, 2012 QuoteIf you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Omigawd, I can't believe anyone still repeats that. [facepalm]"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #9 November 24, 2012 Quote News: National German gun registry on target for launch Quote: "The German interior minister has said a countrywide database of all legal gun owners is set for launch on January 1. Hans-Peter Friedrich predicted a "considerable increase in security" as a result." http://www.dw.de/national-german-gun-registry-on-target-for-launch/a-16390894 It's about time that America caught up with the EU and got these killer weapons under control. Good. I fully agree with this law, don't feel in the least to be disarmed In our todays daily life, there is no imperative for weapons to be hanging close to every idiots a**. Time will tell, if (and how) the new law is going to work. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #10 November 25, 2012 If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Omigawd, I can't believe anyone still repeats that. [facepalm*** why yes, some people are just that clueless. RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #11 November 25, 2012 QuoteThe good reasons are in the article - did you read it? Once central registry instead of over 500 independent registries. Tracing done with one query, instead of taking three or four months. This is a good crime-fighting tool, and the police are in favor of it. They deserve to have the tools needed to do their job. If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Someone will be over in a moment to search your house. No warrant needed. If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Also, I've been a police officer and a criminal defense attorney. Don't get me started on how trustworthy the police are...I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 200 #12 November 25, 2012 QuoteIt's about time that America caught up with the EU and got these killer weapons under control You were being sarcastic right?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #13 November 25, 2012 QuoteQuoteIt's about time that America caught up with the EU and got these killer weapons under control You were being sarcastic right? I don't think so. He seems far too rabid for something as subtle as sarcasm.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #14 November 25, 2012 Care to answer the UK conundrum?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texascrw 0 #15 November 25, 2012 I see everyone is still feeding out little troll. As far as the new German law, if I remember my history, the last time they registered, and later confiscated firearms, that didn't work out too well. Not for the Germans or the world. Amazing how people never learn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 61 #16 November 25, 2012 QuoteQuoteIt's about time that America caught up with the EU and got these killer weapons under control You were being sarcastic right? You have to watch these vicious weapons constantly or they might sneak off and shoot someone. http://www.assaultweaponwatch.com/ Volunteer and help stop these dangerous weapons from hurting others.Atheism is a Non-Prophet Organisation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #17 November 25, 2012 Quote .... If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Exactly. Quote Someone will be over in a moment to search your house. No warrant needed. If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Also, I've been a police officer and a criminal defense attorney. Don't get me started on how trustworthy the police are... Depends of the country and its police force. As we mostly trust in our policemen a bit more than people in other countries are doing, where's the problem? I know my local sheriff, he knows me and what I own, so what? BTW: How many times were you in need to use a hand gun during your European stay, how many times until today were you in danger in Europe? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #18 November 25, 2012 QuoteI know my ... sheriff, ... but you did not know your deputy-y-y.. Whoa, whoa... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #19 November 25, 2012 QuoteWhat about in the UK? We've had most of our hand guns and semi automatic rifles (with the exception of rimfire) taken away and yet our gun crime has risen since the ban? Care to answer the UK conundrum? Probably would have risen even more if the guns hadn't been taken away. Judging by the number of hooligans that remain in your society, as represented by those crime statistics, it's a good thing that they don't have access to all that weaponry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #20 November 25, 2012 Quote Quote I know my ... sheriff, ... but you did not know your deputy-y-y.. Whoa, whoa... I shot the sheriff. but I didn't shoot no deputy .... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 November 25, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhat about in the UK? We've had most of our hand guns and semi automatic rifles (with the exception of rimfire) taken away and yet our gun crime has risen since the ban? Care to answer the UK conundrum? Probably would have risen even more if the guns hadn't been taken away. Judging by the number of hooligans that remain in your society, as represented by those crime statistics, it's a good thing that they don't have access to all that weaponry. So therefore A) The ban hasn't reduced crime and is therefore not viable in reducing gun crime. B) As pointed out by your comment about hooligans what drives the 'gun crime' is in fact the culture of a nation rather than a limited availability of firearms as criminals do not purchase weapons from registered and licensed firearms dealers but from other criminals.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #22 November 26, 2012 QuoteAs pointed out by your comment about hooligans what drives the 'gun crime' is in fact the culture of a nation rather than a limited availability of firearms as criminals do not purchase weapons from registered and licensed firearms dealers but from other criminals. So your gun crime is rising, and your response is to make it easier for everyone to get guns? Maybe to reduce traffic accidents, we should put more cars on the road! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kawisixer01 0 #23 November 26, 2012 Quote If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Yea you're right, we should probably get rid of that whole thing requiring the police to present reasonable cause for warrants while we're at it, that's just a hinderance to the whole process. Shit they should not even need warrants, or hell even probable cause for that matter to come into your home or search your belongings. I think it'd be a lot better if they didn't even need reasonable articulable suspicion. You should have to wear a locator all the time that reports your location and activities to the govt. You don't need privacy, if you aren't doing nothing wrong you have no reason to worry right? Let's erect check points, and require those we deem "undesirables" to wear armbands that identify them to the rest of society. Those 4th and 5th amendments should just go into the garbage. They are such bullshit. The government knows whats best for you. Just go ahead and drink this here kool aid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #24 November 26, 2012 QuoteMaybe to reduce traffic accidents, we should put more cars on the road! It's not the cars, it's the poorly trained drivers, the complacent drivers and the drivers with BS attitudes in thinking "they know all that" when they clearly don't. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #25 November 26, 2012 Quote Quote .... If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Exactly. Quote Someone will be over in a moment to search your house. No warrant needed. If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Also, I've been a police officer and a criminal defense attorney. Don't get me started on how trustworthy the police are... Depends of the country and its police force. As we mostly trust in our policemen a bit more than people in other countries are doing, where's the problem? I know my local sheriff, he knows me and what I own, so what? BTW: How many times were you in need to use a hand gun during your European stay, how many times until today were you in danger in Europe? I'm currently in Europe. I can't leave my stuff on my motorcycle like I do in the US. Everything here seems to grow legs. The area is considered so dangerous that the US government reimburses me up to twice my outrageous monthly rent for me to get an alarm system. Every house has motion sensitive exterior lighting and double cylinder locks. I am far less comfortable here.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
