nigel99 144 #226 August 10, 2011 Quote Quote Apparently Blackberry messenger was used extensively to co-ordinate the riots. It does make you wonder if there is a slightly more organised theme to this, not that I have any idea on who it would be? Gordon Brown's revenge maybe Well if that's the case then maybe some Legal Phone hacking could be put to GOOD use!! http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/08/london-riots-blackberry-messenger-looting The article that I read was in the Independent, but the gist is still in this. Quote BlackBerry Messenger (BBM) appears to be the favoured method of planning the unrest that has swept across north London since Saturday evening. Unlike text messaging or Twitter, BBM is a free, private social network where almost all messages are encrypted when they leave the sender's phone – meaning that many messages are untraceable by the authorities It is hard not to see the pure criminal element when they bother to use tools to try and evade the police.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #227 August 10, 2011 Interesting, I didn't know that about BBMs - but it must be decrypted somewhere and the fact that a messages was sent from a given number and location should be recorded ... Um let's ask a Guardian reporter or a 14 year old boy ... if you can find one that's not out thieving. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #228 August 10, 2011 They fought the law and the law won. Just heard that the Judge at Croydon court has given NOT ONE of the riot thugs bail today - Good man. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #229 August 10, 2011 I heard it was Judge 'Dread'. Here is a recording of how it went down in the court today, He is definitely the man for the job. http://tinyurl.com/3hk2eot When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #230 August 10, 2011 yeah man (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #231 August 11, 2011 Wow mate... your back yard is starting to look like the riots in Egypt. :-( http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=af9_1312935998 Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #232 August 11, 2011 QuoteWow mate... your back yard is starting to look like the riots in Egypt. :-( http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=af9_1312935998 save that those riots had an actual agenda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #233 August 11, 2011 QuoteWow mate... your back yard is starting to look like the riots in Egypt. :-( http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=af9_1312935998 Worse I think (a fact that I'm far from proud about). However last night was pretty calm and as the British do in an emergency the best has come out as well. People have reclaimed the streets with brooms and cups of tea. Thousands getting out there to help those who have been effected. Also people are now telling the Police en-mass who the thugs are and where they live. Police have now made almost a thousand arrests. Its also brought the Sikh and Muslim communities together as they took to the streets to protect their neighbours. Unfortunately three Muslim men were also killed by rioters in a car as they protected their neighbourhood. Their father of one of them has clearly shown the true nature of Islam by making this statement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ1VjUSKevc&feature=player_embedded http://audioboo.fm/boos/435734-the-world-at-one-bob-walker-interviews-tariq-jahan-the-father-of-21-year-old-haroon-jahan-one-of-the-men-who-died-in-birminghamWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #234 August 11, 2011 so 'brooms and cups of tea' instead of 'shooting the scum' was the answer. very english stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #235 August 11, 2011 Quote so 'brooms and cups of tea' instead of 'shooting the scum' was the answer. very english You seem to have a very 1-dimensional view of the world ! What ever, the mess still needs to be cleared up and the community pulling together to do so builds a strong social bond. The scum are being dealt with and so is the disorder that they created. Violence begats violence..... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #236 August 11, 2011 meanwhile the disorder created by the bankers carries on and is still growing - and the scum who did this (a few thousand) still get their bonus's. a new prison should be built for them...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #237 August 11, 2011 If you've got such an issue with the bankers why don't you go do something about it instead of just bitching all the time.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 144 #238 August 11, 2011 Quotemeanwhile the disorder created by the bankers carries on and is still growing - and the scum who did this (a few thousand) still get their bonus's. a new prison should be built for them... DD the bankers did not "do this". The rioters are responsible for their own actions. Don't get me wrong, the bankers should not have got away with what they do/did. It is immoral and they should have been punished. Can you post any suggestions on how things can realistically be fixed?Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #239 August 11, 2011 QuoteIn the mid-to-late 80s, David Cameron and his now chancellor George Osborne – were members of the notorious Bullingdon Club, the Oxford university "dining" clique that smashed their way through restaurant crockery, car windscreens and antique violins all over the city of knowledge. Not unlike a certain section of today's youth, the "Bullers" have little regard for property. Prospective members often have their rooms trashed by their new-found friends, while the club has a reputation for ritualistic plate-smashing at unsuspecting country pubs. It has been banned from several establishments, while contemporary Bullers are said to chant, at all hours: "Buller, Buller, Buller! Buller, Buller, Buller! We are the famous Bullingdon Club, and we don't give a fuck!" "This behaviour was criminal behaviour," said Johnson of the recent riots – but in the past his attitude to vandalism has been more nuanced. In his and Cameron's day, the Bullingdon was most notorious for heaving a weighty flowerpot through the window of a distinguished Oxford eaterie. Cameron, it is said, had already left the scene, but Johnson was so proud that for a time he claimed he was arrested for his part in these exploits. In fact, he simply hid in the shrubbery at the city's botanical gardens. Lucky there were no 24-hour magistrates' courts in those days. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/aug/10/uk-riots-boris-johnsonstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #240 August 11, 2011 Hardly news You didn't address the question, what are YOU going to do about the bankers? How are YOU going to make a positive difference to our society? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #241 August 11, 2011 well, at the moment my role seems to be in calming down the hotheads and dittoheads whose only thought is 'shoot the scum'. so not unuseful stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #242 August 11, 2011 Quote Hardly news You didn't address the question, what are YOU going to do about the bankers? How are YOU going to make a positive difference to our society? More of the same. Cry about it on the interweb with endless nonsense posts about bankers that reak of petty jealousy and socialist bullshit. Go do something of value, go create a business, go hire some people. Go get your own bonus, you can earn it with as much virtue as you see fit. But don't ask any banks to help you on your way."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #243 August 11, 2011 Quote well, at the moment my role seems to be in calming down the hotheads and dittoheads whose only thought is 'shoot the scum'. so not unuseful So nothing then eh DD? Why don't you get off your bum and actually DO something?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #244 August 11, 2011 Why create value when you can siphon off some one else."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #245 August 11, 2011 Quote Go do something of value, go create a business, go hire some people. who says i haven't stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #246 August 11, 2011 Quote Quote well, at the moment my role seems to be in calming down the hotheads and dittoheads whose only thought is 'shoot the scum'. so not unuseful So nothing then eh DD? Why don't you get off your bum and actually DO something? we're going back to the thirties my man. let's all keep calm and not incite with stupid 'shoot the scum' political rhetoric eh? this sort of thing is going to carry on for years - at the moment i have my hands full with ensuring my own little 'uns are brought up proper like. how about an outreach programme from the bpa to these youngsters? they obviously crave a bit of adrenaline...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 144 #247 August 11, 2011 Quote Quote Quote well, at the moment my role seems to be in calming down the hotheads and dittoheads whose only thought is 'shoot the scum'. so not unuseful So nothing then eh DD? Why don't you get off your bum and actually DO something? we're going back to the thirties my man. let's all keep calm and not incite with stupid 'shoot the scum' political rhetoric eh? this sort of thing is going to carry on for years - at the moment i have my hands full with ensuring my own little 'uns are brought up proper like. how about an outreach programme from the bpa to these youngsters? they obviously crave a bit of adrenaline... Great idea DD. Lets fill up the skydiving community with yahoo's who refuse to acknowledge authority or take advice! Well maybe that horse has already left the stableExperienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #248 August 11, 2011 Quote they obviously crave a bit of adrenaline... They don't lack adrenaline. They lack parents that are worth a damn. They lack community that teaches respect for other people and for the value of hard work. They don't need a hug, they need a boot on their neck because they are worthless thugs. None of them would have the balls on their own to confront and look in the eyes of the people whose lives they destroyed. Cowardly little shits."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #249 August 11, 2011 Quotemeanwhile the disorder created by the bankers carries on and is still growing - and the scum who did this (a few thousand) still get their bonus's. a new prison should be built for them... That's a separate issue ...FOCUS (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #250 August 11, 2011 Quote They lack community that teaches respect for other people and for the value of hard work. They don't need a hug, they need a boot on their neck because they are worthless thugs. None of them would have the balls on their own to confront and look in the eyes of the people whose lives they destroyed. Cowardly little shits. you do chunter on about those bankers a bit (but nice to have you onside)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
