StreetScooby 5 #301 August 11, 2011 Quote and took control once he came back from holiday. Ah, wasn't it over by then?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #302 August 11, 2011 Shhh.. You're making him look bad When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 144 #303 August 11, 2011 Remember the story about the guy who was helped up and mugged? Meso mentioned it in one of his posts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14497763Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #304 August 11, 2011 Quote Shhh.. You're making him look bad dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,640 #305 August 11, 2011 Quote Quote Europe is wonderful... no guns, no killings.. everything is free ! Can't wait until we are just like them !! You'll never be like us .. you still have a daft accent and can't spell correctlyTo many things against you ..... Hey, you do the maths. Hmmmm...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #306 August 11, 2011 Bwhaaaa (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #307 August 12, 2011 that said nothing about being stopped 12 times in a week.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #308 August 12, 2011 these are just little assholes without a care in the world who want to have fun and don't really care if they break things for others. They probably don't even realize what they're doing may have serious consequences to the people who live and work in these areas. It has dick to do with anything in the British system -- we saw the same thing happen in Vancouver after the Stanley Cup and in Toronto with the G20. and various other cities in North America and around the world. Undisciplined Youth have been a problem since the days of the Egyptian and Roman empires.... They just saw they had an opportunity (the police were a bit overwhelmed by the even the peaceful demonstration) and went with it. Then they were surprised they were getting away with it, and decided to keep on keeping on....If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #309 August 12, 2011 the 'world' series was sponsored by the New York 'World' newspaper back in the day -- nothing to do with globalization....If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #310 August 12, 2011 Quotethese are just little assholes without a care in the world who want to have fun and don't really care if they break things for others. They probably don't even realize what they're doing may have serious consequences to the people who live and work in these areas. It has dick to do with anything in the British system -- we saw the same thing happen in Vancouver after the Stanley Cup and in Toronto with the G20. and various other cities in North America and around the world. Undisciplined Youth have been a problem since the days of the Egyptian and Roman empires.... They just saw they had an opportunity (the police were a bit overwhelmed by the even the peaceful demonstration) and went with it. Then they were surprised they were getting away with it, and decided to keep on keeping on.... Exactly right. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #311 August 12, 2011 Quotethat said nothing about being stopped 12 times in a week. there's plenty more examples. blacks are 26 times more likely to be stopped and searched than whites. that is racist by any definition...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #312 August 12, 2011 Quotethese are just little assholes without a care in the world who want to have fun and don't really care if they break things for others. They probably don't even realize what they're doing may have serious consequences to the people who live and work in these areas. It has dick to do with anything in the British system -- we saw the same thing happen in Vancouver after the Stanley Cup and in Toronto with the G20. and various other cities in North America and around the world. Undisciplined Youth have been a problem since the days of the Egyptian and Roman empires.... They just saw they had an opportunity (the police were a bit overwhelmed by the even the peaceful demonstration) and went with it. Then they were surprised they were getting away with it, and decided to keep on keeping on.... Thats fairly accurate but it doesn't account for the looters who weren't kids, their were people of 4a yrs old nicked. There is something very wrong with our society in which people can do the things we've seen. It may not be the cause but the social problems have been highlighted by these last few days.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #313 August 12, 2011 Quote Quote that said nothing about being stopped 12 times in a week. there's plenty more examples. blacks are 26 times more likely to be stopped and searched than whites. that is racist by any definition... Bloody hell its Groundhog dayWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #314 August 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote that said nothing about being stopped 12 times in a week. there's plenty more examples. blacks are 26 times more likely to be stopped and searched than whites. that is racist by any definition... Bloody hell its Groundhog day a cracked reco.... a cracked reco..... a cracked reco.... a cracked reco.... a cracked reco.... a cracked reco.... a cracked reco.... a cracked reco.... a cracked reco.... a cracked record plays the same tune over and over. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #315 August 12, 2011 and the police shooting tune is familiar... (remember what sparked this all off - more casualties of the 'war on drugs')stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #316 August 12, 2011 No it was the bankers... whoops sorry the racist police ... no the Tories or was it New Labour? No it was the people them selves - the ones on the streets committing the crimes - NOONE FORCED THEM TO START FIRES, STEAL or MURDER (how many now?). I want a new tellie and a pair of trainers - but I DON'T want them THAT badly. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 31 #317 August 12, 2011 Quote there's plenty more examples. blacks are 26 times more likely to be stopped and searched than whites. that is racist by any definition... Nope, it's profiling, and it also happens right here in S.A. by black cops on black vehicle drivers (who are a road user minority). I already addressed this with you in an older thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #318 August 12, 2011 no, it's racism. ugly but true...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #319 August 12, 2011 QuoteSir Hugh Orde, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, has rejected home secretary Theresa May's claims that she had ordered the "more robust" approach that quelled rioting in English cities. Orde said tactics had changed because more officers were made available. The fact that MPs had come home from holiday was "an irrelevance". May had "no power whatsoever" to cancel all police leave, Orde said. "The more robust policing tactics you saw were not a function of political interference; they were a function of the numbers being available to allow the chief constables to change their tactics," he told BBC's Newsnight. "The fact that politicians chose to come back [from holiday] is an irrelevance in terms of the tactics that were by then developing. The more robust policing tactics you saw were not a function of political interference; they were a function of the numbers being available to allow the chief constables to change their tactics." Cuts to policing budgets would "inevitably" lead to fewer police officers, he said. "We need to have some very honest conversations with government about what we stop doing if we are to maintain frontline service delivery at current levels. "It's the 20% cuts in the present spending period that will lead to less police officers, we should be very clear about that." http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/12/uk-riots-police-round-governmentstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #320 August 12, 2011 From today's WSJ Après le Déluge, What? Riots and flash mobs have root causes that government can't reach. The riots in Britain left some Americans shaken. In the affluence of the past 40 years, and with the rise of the jumbo jet, we became a nation of travelers. We have been to England, visited a lot of those neighborhoods. They were peaceful; now they're in flames. But something else raised our unease as we followed the story on TV and on the Net. I think there was a ping on the national radar. We saw something over there that in smaller ways we're starting to see over here. The British press, left, right and center, was largely united in a refusal to make political excuses for the violence. Almost all agreed on the cause and nature of what happened. The cause was not injustice; this was not a revolt of the downtrodden masses, breaking into stores looking for food. The causes were greed, selfishness, a respect and even lust of violence, and a lack of moral grounding. Conscienceless predators preyed upon the weak. The weak were anyone who happened to be passing by, and those, many of them immigrants, who tried to defend their shops and neighborhoods. The iconic scene was the 20-year-old college student in East London who was beaten for his bicycle and fell bloody to the ground. His tormentors, with a sadistic imitation of gentleness, helped him up. Then they rifled through his backpack to get his phone and wallet. It was cruelty out of Dickens. It was Bill Sikes with a million YouTube hits. The denunciations were swift and fierce. Max Hastings, in the conservative-populist Daily Mail: "The depressing truth is that at the bottom of our society is a layer of young people with no skills, education, values or aspirations. . . . Nobody has ever dared suggest to them that they need feel any allegiance to anything, least of all Britain or their community. . . . Not only do they know nothing of Britain's past, they care nothing for its present." In the left-tilting Guardian, youth worker Shaun Bailey called the rioters opportunists. "Young people have been looting the shops they like: JD Sports and mobile phone shops have been hit, yet Waterstone's [a bookstore] has been left alone. These young people like trainers [sneakers] and iPhones; they are less interested in books. This is criminality in a raw form, not politics." View Full Image noonan0813 ZUMAPRESS A well known local gang in Normanton, Derby wears scarves and hoods to protect their identity. noonan0813 noonan0813 In the right-leaning Telegraph, Allison Pearson asked: "Where are the parents?" She told of a friend who'd called a mother to tell her her son was out and acting up. The mother yelled at her for calling at 2:15 a.m. "The adults are afraid and the children, emboldened by adult timidity, are fearless." More stinging and resigned was the brief essay by Theodore Dalrymple in the intellectually bracing City Journal. The subject—the decline of Western society—has been his for 20 years. He has written what he saw as a doctor working in British prisons. "The ferocious criminality exhibited by an uncomfortably large section of the English population" in the riots did not surprise him. "To have spotted it required no great perspicacity on my part; rather, it took a peculiar cowardly blindness, one regularly displayed by the British intelligentsia and political class, not to see it and not to realize its significance." At fault in the riots were the distorting effects of the welfare state and a degenerate British popular culture: "A population thinks (because it has often been told so by intellectuals and the political class) that it is entitled to a high standard of consumption, irrespective of its personal efforts; and therefore it regards the fact that it does not receive that high standard, by comparison with the rest of society, as a sign of injustice." Much of what they have is provided by others, but they are not grateful: dependency doesn't encourage gratitude but resentment. *** What does this have to do with America? What we're seeing on the streets in Britain right now is something we may be starting to see here. It hasn't come together in a conflagration, but it is out there, and I think it's growing. And as in Britain, it doesn't have anything to do with political grievances per se. Philadelphia right now is under curfew because of "flash mobs." Young people send out the word on social media, and suddenly dozens or hundreds of them hit a targeted store, steal everything on the shelves, and run, knowing no one will stop them or catch them. It's happened in other cities, too. Sometimes the mobs beat people up on the street and take their money. There are the beat-downs in McDonald's, where the young lose all control and the old fear to intervene. There were the fights and attacks last weekend at the Wisconsin State Fair. You've seen the YouTubes of fights on the subways. You often see links to these stories on Drudge: He headlines them "Les Miserables." Some of these young people come from brokenness, shallowness and terror, and are bringing those things into the world with them. Here are some statistics of what someone last week called a new lost generation. In 2009, the last year for which census data are available, there were 74 million children under 18. Of that number, 20 million live in single-parent families, often with only an overwhelmed mother or a beleaguered grandmother. Over 700,000 children under 18 have been the subject of reports of abuse. More than a quarter million are foster children. These numbers suggest the making—or the presence—of a crisis.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #321 August 12, 2011 Quote I want a new tellie and a pair of trainers - but I DON'T want them THAT badly. I do, but the hoodies down here in the south west couldn't be bothered to get themselves organised and start rioting Feckin' lazy youth generation...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 144 #322 August 12, 2011 Holy shit. Tough on crime!! QuoteOne student was given a six-month sentence for stealing a bottle of waterExperienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 144 #323 August 12, 2011 Hi Scooby, Very good article thanks. Sort of ironic that it is from the WSJ, with the recent Murdoch empire controversy Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #324 August 12, 2011 Quote No it was the bankers... whoops sorry the racist police ... no the Tories or was it New Labour? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #325 August 12, 2011 Quoteno, it's racism. ugly but true... Its race based but does that automatically make it racism?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
