Andy9o8 0 #101 July 25, 2011 Quote I think this is just an insane rampage by a looney and I think attempts to paint it as anything but, is just a stretch to explain something that most find difficult to understand. You might be right, depending on the results of the mental examination that I presume the court will now order. And yet, when I made the exact same argument about the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up Ft. Hood (that the only Muslim extremism was in the delusions of the shooter's mental illness), all the conservatives and bigots wiggled and danced to find an angle around that one. Funny how that works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #102 July 25, 2011 Quote Quote I can't see how this has anything to do with religion. I agree, or at least I agree the connection is tenuous and it would be unsupportable to blame right-wing Christianity for this. The issue to me seems to be xenophobia, hatred of "outsiders" who dilute "cultural/ethnic purity". Wrong. In his 'Manifesto' He goes to great lengths to point out that he is against racists and is not one. Rather he is very clear that his problem is Islam and socialism which he sees as a nexus that is taking over Christian Europe. He is quite clear that he is a right wing Christian and that is the driving motivation in his actions.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #103 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuote I think this is just an insane rampage by a looney and I think attempts to paint it as anything but, is just a stretch to explain something that most find difficult to understand. You might be right, depending on the results of the mental examination that I presume the court will now order. And yet, when I made the exact same argument about the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up Ft. Hood (that the only Muslim extremism was in the delusions of the shooter's mental illness), all the conservatives and bigots wiggled and danced to find an angle around that one. Funny how that works. Well, screaming Allah Akbar might have had something to do with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #104 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuote I think this is just an insane rampage by a looney and I think attempts to paint it as anything but, is just a stretch to explain something that most find difficult to understand. You might be right, depending on the results of the mental examination that I presume the court will now order. And yet, when I made the exact same argument about the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up Ft. Hood (that the only Muslim extremism was in the delusions of the shooter's mental illness), all the conservatives and bigots wiggled and danced to find an angle around that one. Funny how that works. The same conservatives and bigots who interestingly have been largely missing for the last couple of days.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #105 July 25, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I can't see how this has anything to do with religion. I agree, or at least I agree the connection is tenuous and it would be unsupportable to blame right-wing Christianity for this. The issue to me seems to be xenophobia, hatred of "outsiders" who dilute "cultural/ethnic purity". Wrong. In his 'Manifesto' He goes to great lengths to point out that he is against racists and is not one. Rather he is very clear that his problem is Islam and socialism which he sees as a nexus that is taking over Christian Europe. He is quite clear that he is a right wing Christian and that is the driving motivation in his actions. Some of his manifesto was plagerized from Ted Kazinsky. Not necessarily all original thought or ideology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #106 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuote I think this is just an insane rampage by a looney and I think attempts to paint it as anything but, is just a stretch to explain something that most find difficult to understand. You might be right, depending on the results of the mental examination that I presume the court will now order. And yet, when I made the exact same argument about the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up Ft. Hood (that the only Muslim extremism was in the delusions of the shooter's mental illness), all the conservatives and bigots wiggled and danced to find an angle around that one. Funny how that works. Sort of like the left-wingers are doing here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #107 July 25, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I can't see how this has anything to do with religion. I agree, or at least I agree the connection is tenuous and it would be unsupportable to blame right-wing Christianity for this. The issue to me seems to be xenophobia, hatred of "outsiders" who dilute "cultural/ethnic purity". Wrong. In his 'Manifesto' He goes to great lengths to point out that he is against racists and is not one. Rather he is very clear that his problem is Islam and socialism which he sees as a nexus that is taking over Christian Europe. He is quite clear that he is a right wing Christian and that is the driving motivation in his actions. Some of his manifesto was plagerized from Ted Kazinsky. Not necessarily all original thought or ideology. Simple minds seldom differ.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #108 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote I think this is just an insane rampage by a looney and I think attempts to paint it as anything but, is just a stretch to explain something that most find difficult to understand. You might be right, depending on the results of the mental examination that I presume the court will now order. And yet, when I made the exact same argument about the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up Ft. Hood (that the only Muslim extremism was in the delusions of the shooter's mental illness), all the conservatives and bigots wiggled and danced to find an angle around that one. Funny how that works. Sort of like the left-wingers are doing here? Your comment makes no sense as the killer was a right wing conservative Christian.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #109 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I think this is just an insane rampage by a looney and I think attempts to paint it as anything but, is just a stretch to explain something that most find difficult to understand. You might be right, depending on the results of the mental examination that I presume the court will now order. And yet, when I made the exact same argument about the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up Ft. Hood (that the only Muslim extremism was in the delusions of the shooter's mental illness), all the conservatives and bigots wiggled and danced to find an angle around that one. Funny how that works. Sort of like the left-wingers are doing here? Your comment makes no sense as the killer was a right wing conservative Christian. What Church did he attend? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #110 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote I think this is just an insane rampage by a looney and I think attempts to paint it as anything but, is just a stretch to explain something that most find difficult to understand. You might be right, depending on the results of the mental examination that I presume the court will now order. And yet, when I made the exact same argument about the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up Ft. Hood (that the only Muslim extremism was in the delusions of the shooter's mental illness), all the conservatives and bigots wiggled and danced to find an angle around that one. Funny how that works. Well, screaming Allah Akbar might have had something to do with it. What part of "delusions of mental illness" do you not understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #111 July 25, 2011 Why you want to pop along? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #112 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I think this is just an insane rampage by a looney and I think attempts to paint it as anything but, is just a stretch to explain something that most find difficult to understand. You might be right, depending on the results of the mental examination that I presume the court will now order. And yet, when I made the exact same argument about the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up Ft. Hood (that the only Muslim extremism was in the delusions of the shooter's mental illness), all the conservatives and bigots wiggled and danced to find an angle around that one. Funny how that works. Sort of like the left-wingers are doing here? Your comment makes no sense as the killer was a right wing conservative Christian. Sure it does - the same religion angle in reverse.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie5 0 #113 July 25, 2011 Divide and conquer, Left VS Right. Those in power must be loving this. FYI Ted Kaczynski was an Atheist. Psychopaths are psychopaths regardless of beliefs.The feather butts bounce off ya like raindrops hitting a battle-star when they come in too fast...kinda funny to watch. - airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #114 July 25, 2011 Breivik was baptized into the Protestant church. in his own words though...' Today's Protestant church is a joke. Priests in jeans who march for Palestine and churches that look like minimalist shopping centres. I am a supporter of an indirect collective conversion of the Protestant church back to the Catholic'.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #115 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I think this is just an insane rampage by a looney and I think attempts to paint it as anything but, is just a stretch to explain something that most find difficult to understand. You might be right, depending on the results of the mental examination that I presume the court will now order. And yet, when I made the exact same argument about the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up Ft. Hood (that the only Muslim extremism was in the delusions of the shooter's mental illness), all the conservatives and bigots wiggled and danced to find an angle around that one. Funny how that works. Well, screaming Allah Akbar might have had something to do with it. What part of "delusions of mental illness" do you not understand? The case could be made that anyone who believes in a spritual being is delusional. Depends on where you want to draw the line. I haven't read any reports of this guy screaming "Jesus is my Savior". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #116 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteIslam, or Christianity, who gives a fuck. RELIGION caused this fucking mess. RELIGION.....it's evil, it always is, it always was. If there were no 'god' then there would be no evil. I'll refrain from saying this is immature and ignorant. Let's just say it's simplistic. It's blindness to history. ALL of the horrible major wars of the last four centuries were started for issues having nothing to do with religion. You'd have to be in denial to think that without religion, people wouldn't have anything to fight about. Furthermore, the countries with the most atheistic ideologies (USSR & china) slaughtered the most people. The Catholic church's influence in Poland had a huge impact in the overthrow of Soviet domination, which ultimately led to the dismantling of the whole soviet empire. The church never fired a shot, and an oppressive, murderous superpower went down Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #117 July 25, 2011 >What Church did he attend? Frogner Church in Oslo, Norway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #118 July 25, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote We have hundreds of groups here in the US on the fringe who have the same ideaology who have the same hatred of anyone who does not goose step to their particular drum beat. What's your's called? WOW....You are way the fuck outta line bubba Wow you really don’t have the nerve inside your head that screams hypocrite do you? You spew hateful garbage all day, all the time, you have said words that can easily be looked at calling for violence against any thing brown!!!!???????????????? WOW that’s all I have to say WOW. Selective amnesia? I was expecting you to send this guy a letter asking for his hand in Marriage? Actually we have quite a few people on here who I am surprised have not asked this guy to marry them……….. oh wait most of those guys think marriage is between a man and a woman only. He is all yours i guess AWWWW poor victim. You might want to use your brain a bit Darius. If those in the religion of peace would actually wish to live in peace I am more than willing to be inclusive no matter what color you are, brown, red yellow or black. One of the things that has made this a great country are its people, who came from every country on the planet. If on the other hand you want a jihad to spread your hatred with a CONVERT OR DIE mantra and you wish to kill me because I do not believe the same as you do..... I would be happy to support any policy at all to nuke you back to the fucking stone age or get you and as many of your fellow travellers all the virgins you believe you will get from Allah. That my dear.. is not racist.. it is a statement of fact. War.. is about killing the enemy. If you wish to be my enemy I wish to help you die for your religion or your country.. your choice. The sooner the people of the middle east realize they are pissing off the same Tiger with big teeth that the Japanese underestimated the better they will be. Live in peace... or die in a flash of light. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #119 July 25, 2011 Quote>What Church did he attend? Frogner Church in Oslo, Norway. Do you know if this church has a history of preaching anything that could explain his behavior? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #120 July 25, 2011 QuoteWhen you have people constantly spewing ignorant garbage, when they take one example one person use that for condemning a race, religion,a LARGE group of people shit like this happens. The Nazis weren’t from space, they were people normal people who heard the same ignorant racists shit that many on here spread daily. All you need is someone and they exist in every denomination to take it seriously and be looking for an excuse to use violence. Oh.. you mean like your ignorant posts about the EVIL Israeli"s where you support terrorist organizations who will not live in peace???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #121 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuote>What Church did he attend? Frogner Church in Oslo, Norway. Do you know if this church has a history of preaching anything that could explain his behavior? i think that is unknown but in light of recent event even if it did its unlikely they would admit to it.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #122 July 25, 2011 Frogner church is a normal norwegian church (liberal) He was part of a freemasons, but that is not so much focus on in the media. http://www.frimurer.no/ordenen/15-aktuelt/1192-the-norwegian-order-of-freemasons-expressing-compassion-and-care Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #123 July 25, 2011 Quote He was part of a freemasons, but that is not so much focus on in the media. True, I've heard little about his involvement in the Freemasons which is strange considering his incessant reference to the Knights Templar.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #124 July 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote>What Church did he attend? Frogner Church in Oslo, Norway. Do you know if this church has a history of preaching anything that could explain his behavior? i think that is unknown but in light of recent event even if it did its unlikely they would admit to it. Where are you getting that this has something to do with his religion? I still fail to see anything yet that convinces me this was anything more than someone schizophrenic like Loughner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #125 July 25, 2011 An interesting report from RT http://rt.com/news/norway-worst-tragedy-police/When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
