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Bombing and shooting in Norway...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259356

Carnage... they suspect right wing extremists at this stage.

What a terrible day for Norway.

Usually a peacful country that we hear little about as no news is (usually) good news...

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At least 80 people died when a gunman opened fire at an island youth camp in Norway, hours after a bomb attack on the capital, Oslo, police say.

Oslo police are questioning a 32-year-old Norwegian man in connection with Friday's attacks.

The man was arrested on tiny Utoeya island outside Oslo, where police say he opened fire on teenagers.

Earlier, the number of dead from the island shooting spree, which is among the world's most deadly, was put at 10.

The Oslo bomb attack killed at least seven people. Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, whose offices were among those badly hit by the blast, described the attacks as "bloody and cowardly".
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He asked people to gather round and then he started shooting, so these young people fled into the bushes and woods ”

Ole Torp NRK journalist

In pictures: Attacks shock Norway

No group has claimed responsibility for the attack but the suspect is reported by local media to have had links with right-wing extremists.


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Carnage... they suspect right wing extremists at this stage



They do now they've caught him but all the news channels were crawling with so called experts explaining why Islamist terrorists would carried out the attack. Even the British PM said we would hunt down the terrorists responsible, clearly thinking the same. We've news organisations now that don't report the news so much as spoon feed their opinions and try and make the facts fit their political agenda. As for the people they will believe whatever they're told very often without thinking.
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The man captured is called Anders Behring Breivik, a Oslo police spokesman has described him a posting on right wing Christian websites. Other reports are also saying that he is a Conservative Christian who is strongly opposed to Multiculturalism.... Hmmm...Oh look Tumbleweed.
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The man captured is called Anders Behring Breivik, a Oslo police spokesman has described him a posting on right wing Christian websites. Other reports are also saying that he is a Conservative Christian who is strongly opposed to Multiculturalism.... Hmmm...Oh look Tumbleweed.



Looks like you're doing the same stereotyping you mentioned in your other thread.... oh look, tumbleweeds.

The police break up an AQ plot to set off a bomb in Oslo a year ago.... and an Islamist organization (initially) takes credit for the current explosion.

Yup, *MUST* be stereotyping... :|
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They were making the claim before anyone claiming to be a Islamist organization placed anything on the website. I'm pointing out the irony of the fact that he is now turns out to be a conservative Christian.
Having said that, this is no more the work of a true Christian than the murderers on 9/11 were true followers of Islam.
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I wonder how long before Christian leaders denounce it and publicly state that they do not condone such actions.



A very fair question.
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this is no more the work of a true Christian than the murderers on 9/11 were true followers of Islam.



I wonder how long before Christian leaders denounce it and publicly state that they do not condone such actions.



Sad event. My most sincere condolences to the people of Norway for their loss.

If it is determined that his actions were tied to his "Christianity" I would expect Christian leaders to condemn his actions in the strongest possible terms. Also, I would bet that Christian leaders would not qualify their condemnation with ridiculous additional comments condemning his victims' or that they brought it upon themselves and thus were deserved targets of the jihadist crusader.

(I just don't get it. This guy lived in happy socialist paradise. What beef could he possibly have had?)

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(I just don't get it. This guy lived in happy socialist paradise. What beef could he possibly have had?)




Yea, who would want to live in a country considered by most to have the highest standard of living in the world along with one of the lowest crime rates ?

That's probably why you run into so many Norwegian immigrants these days.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/country_profiles/1023276.stm


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It was Vikings.




Nah... there was no rape and pillaging...... just berserking


Vikings didn't have to allow for "getaway" time. This allowed them to rape and pillage at a leisurely pace. :P

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I would bet that Christian leaders would not qualify their condemnation with ridiculous additional comments condemning his victims' or that they brought it upon themselves and thus were deserved targets of the jihadist crusader.



We should be hearing Christianity referred to as a "religion of peace" at the slightest mention of it any day now....

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He wanted to start a Euro culture teaparty.

Here is some of his writings on a forum called www.document.no
http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/


Use your webbrowser to translate.



I think you are misunderstanding his meaning there. He references the "Tea Party" only in the sense that the ideology that he and his friends are promoting must use the same type of grassroots organization and proliferation that aided in the successful rise of the "Tea Party" movement in the US. Nothing more. He goes on to say in his writings that the social struggles in Europe and in the US are quite different and really cannot be compared and that he mostly ignores US political and social mechanics. Also, ideologically he is 180 degrees out of sync with the Tea Party. He sounds more like a fascist than he admits although even in his condemnation of fascism he seems to admire it. The scary part for Norway is that there seems to be a whole covey of these guys "grassrooting" themselves into a mutually supportive, murderous frenzy. Nice try to link him to Tea Party ideas but he's way over on the other end of the rope.

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(I just don't get it. This guy lived in happy socialist paradise. What beef could he possibly have had?)




Yea, who would want to live in a country considered by most to have the highest standard of living in the world along with one of the lowest crime rates ?

That's probably why you run into so many Norwegian immigrants these days.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/country_profiles/1023276.stm



So, tell me ...given the high standard of living and low crime rate, what would motivate him to attack government offices and murder school children in Norway? (He does mention in his "writing" that he's a millionaire. Could that be it?)

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***(I just don't get it. This guy lived in happy socialist paradise. What beef could he possibly have had?)




Yea, who would want to live in a country considered by most to have the highest standard of living in the world along with one of the lowest crime rates ?

That's probably why you run into so many Norwegian immigrants these days.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/country_profiles/1023276.stm



So, tell me ...given the high standard of living and low crime rate, what would motivate him to attack government offices and murder school children in Norway? (He does mention in his "writing" that he's a millionaire. Could that be it?)



People are always looking for a reason for why these things happen, he was a fucking nut, nothing more and nothing less. they come along from time to time and the ones that tend to run up the higher counts seem to have easier access to weapons.

I can't recall such a high toll ever in a European country. ( outside of being committed by people in nice brown shirts with shiny boots)

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Since I wrote Euro culture teaparty, I believe I do not need to explain furter when I even linked to the page where he explained his thoughts?

Peace



You have to read the whole paragraph to get his meaning. Are you saying that he was advocating the formation of a European version of the Tea Party ...that is ideologically similar? (as opposed to my interpretation of the paragraph ...that he was suggesting using the US tea party movement as an organizational model. (not trying to be contentious here ...only looking for clarity.) The more of his stuff I read, the more he sounds like a fascist national socialist ...but a socialist is a socialist. Brand doesn't matter except in the details.

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...... he was a fucking nut, nothing more and nothing less. they come along from time to time and the ones that tend to run up the higher counts seem to have easier access to weapons.

I can't recall such a high toll ever in a European country. ( outside of being committed by people in nice brown shirts with shiny boots)



Agreement here.

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Let's not copy and paste entire discussion forums into posts here, please.



I know it's probably not "allowed" but it really was a help to be able to refer back to it here since it did have to be translated. Just more convenient.

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