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The end of the world

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party like its 5000002007!

(SPACE.com) -- The sun is midway through its stable hydrogen burning phase known as the main sequence. But when the sun enters the red giant phase in around 5 billion years things are going to get a lot rougher in the Earth-moon system.

During the red giant phase the Sun will swell until its distended atmosphere reaches out to envelop the Earth and moon, which will both begin to be affected by gas drag -- the space through which they orbit will contain more molecules.

The moon is now moving away from Earth and by then will be in an orbit that's about 40 percent larger than today. It will be the first to warp under the Sun's influence.

"The moon's actual path is a wiggly line around the sun, with it moving faster when it is slightly farther out (at full moon) and more slowly when it is slightly closer (at new moon)," said Lee Anne Willson of Iowa State University. "So the gas drag is more effective at the farther part of the orbit and this will put the moon into an orbit where the new moon is closer to Earth than the full moon."

Willson's idea about the moon's demise, explained recently to SPACE.com, is an unpublished byproduct of her research into Earth's fate in the face of an expanding sun.

Moving away
Today, the moon is on average 239,000 miles (385,000 kilometers) away and has reached this point after a long and dramatic journey.

Earth's moon was born around 4.5 billion years ago in a titanic collision between our planet and a Mars-sized sibling, according to the leading theory. The enormous impact threw debris into orbit around the young Earth and from this maelstrom the Moon coalesced.

For the last few billion years the moon's gravity has been raising tides in Earth's oceans which the fast spinning Earth attempts to drag ahead of the sluggishly orbiting moon. The result is that the moon is being pushed away from Earth by 1.6 inches (4 centimeters) per year and our planet's rotation is slowing.

If left unabated, the moon would continue in its retreat until it would take about 47 days to orbit the Earth. Both Earth and moon would then keep the same faces permanently turned toward one another as Earth's spin would also have slowed to one rotation every 47 days.

Solar influence
The Sun's mutation into a red giant provides a huge stumbling block to the moon's getaway and is likely to ensure the moon ends its days the way it began; as a ring of Earth-girdling debris.

"The density and temperature both increase rapidly near the apparent surface (photosphere) of the future giant sun," Willson explained. As the Earth and moon near this blistering hot region, the drag caused by the sun's extended atmosphere will cause the moon's orbit to decay. The moon will swing ever closer to Earth until it reaches a point 11,470 miles (18,470 kilometers) above our planet, a point termed the Roche limit.

"Reaching the Roche limit means that the gravity holding it [the moon] together is weaker than the tidal forces acting to pull it apart," Willson said.

The moon will be torn to pieces and every crater, mountain, valley, footprint and flag will be scattered to form a spectacular 23,000-mile-diameter (37,000-kilometer) Saturn-like ring of debris above Earth's equator. The new rings will be short-lived. Theory dictates they'll eventually rain down onto Earth's surface.

"Particles of different masses will have different survival times; the smaller particles will be removed first, and the biggest ones last. Most of the ring particles would be gone by the time the Earth reaches the stellar photosphere," Willson said.

If the sun's photosphere reaches Earth, our planet too will experience drag and spiral into the Sun to be incinerated.

Possible out
There are possible natural alternatives, however.

If the sun as a red giant sloughs off enough material before Earth evaporates, our planet will be revealed from its stellar cocoon in a moon-less guise. Earth, robbed of its companion, would undertake a lonely vigil as the sun turns eventually into a stellar corpse called a white dwarf, fading to black over the ensuing trillions of years.

Alternatively, if the swelling sun loses 20 percent of its mass prior to it reaching our vicinity, both Earth and moon could be spared incineration and remain together facing each other for eternity. The actual outcome remains a theoretical uncertainty because no red giant star has been observed during this crucial phase.

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popsjumper    2

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Why does the sun go on shining
Why does the sea rush to shore
Don't they know it's the end of the world
'Cause you don't love me any more

Why do the birds go on singing
Why do the stars glow above
Don't they know it's the end of the world
It ended when I lost your love

I wake up in the morning and I wonder
Why everything's the same as it was
I can't understand, no, I can't understand
How life goes on the way it does.

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My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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ExAFO    0

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thats great it starts with an earthquake....blabdlbadfhaudfodbdofo fdifiahfi ...

LEONARD BERNSTEIN!

its the end of the world as we know it...




'sokay... I feel fine, mang. [/tony montana]
Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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SpeedRacer    1

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So, America's got three more days left?:o:o:o

edited to add quote about what will happen before Bush leaves office:

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It is far too long to go into an indepth explanation, but I will state this.

New York City and Washington will be blow to bits through nuclear devastaion, brought about by Al Qeada and Osama.

THAT IS FACT
There will be no Pentagon, No President, No Vice President, No Senate, No Congress, N FBI, No CIA and the list is endless.

Once it takes place, guess what will take place in the Middle East. The Arabs will do everything they can to wipe out the Jews, and although they will have limited success, tghe major war against them will take place at Armageddon about 2015 A.D.

There are MANY major developments that will also take place, involving North Korea, Japan, China, France, England, and Russia.

Terrifying events, buyt they will take place in your time.

I have trun...my time on the library computer is about to run out.

regards

Bill Cole


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FallingOsh    0

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There are MANY major developments that will also take place, involving North Korea, Japan, China, France, England, and Russia.



You have to admit, he was right on target on this one.



Yeah, I guess. Doesn't really make it a prophecy.

Let me try.

In the future there will be many great accomplishments. However, some failures will occur.


Check back in a few years.

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labrys    0

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and what will happen when that next 8-9 months goes by?



As I understand it, there will be a meteor and a big earthquake and lots of teeth gnashing and hair pulling...

And then there will be a world-wide respawn that none of us will remember.....
Owned by Remi #?

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maadmax    0

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-- Well, per Bill Cole the world was going to end in 2006 (possibly) but is definitely going to end in 2007.

--Just thought you all should know, what with the Convention canceled and all.



So his date may be a little off, his prediction will be here in the blink of an eye, cosomologically speaking. I guess the question is, is this all there is?

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billvon    2,402

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>So his date may be a little off . . .

I should point out that he recently issued an update:

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Some time ago, I interpreted some biblical prophecies that spoke clearly of the end of the USA, ( NOT the end of the world as some thought), and I mentioned it would take place before the end of Bush's 2nd term.

Well, a continuance of research causes me to believe it will not be before the end of Bush's 2nd term, but shortly after his successor is elected to the President's
office, ......sometime before September of 2009.

This will be the 62nd WEEK ( of years) of Daniel's prophecy, and either shortly before or shortly after New York City and Washington are wiped off the map, a very large asteroid will hit in mid Atlantic, causing enormous problems to the east coast of North America and the west coast of Europe.

I just thought I would bring everyone interested up to date.

Nevertheless, you won't have to wait too long....it IS going to take place.....just a few extra months to enjoy yourselves while you can.....maybe a few extra jumps !
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So we've got about 7 months.

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Amazon    7

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This will be the 62nd WEEK ( of years) of Daniel's prophecy, and either shortly before or shortly after New York City and Washington are wiped off the map, a very large asteroid will hit in mid Atlantic, causing enormous problems to the east coast of North America and the west coast of Europe.



I really hope Bruce Willis is up for this.

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Butters    0

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This will be the 62nd WEEK ( of years) of Daniel's prophecy, and either shortly before or shortly after New York City and Washington are wiped off the map, a very large asteroid will hit in mid Atlantic, causing enormous problems to the east coast of North America and the west coast of Europe.



I really hope Bruce Willis is up for this.


Bruce Willis ... :D The government already has a contract with Chuck Norris to roundhouse kick the asteroid back into outer space.
"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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>So his date may be a little off . . .

I should point out that he recently issued an update:

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Some time ago, I interpreted some biblical prophecies that spoke clearly of the end of the USA, ( NOT the end of the world as some thought), and I mentioned it would take place before the end of Bush's 2nd term.

Well, a continuance of research causes me to believe it will not be before the end of Bush's 2nd term, but shortly after his successor is elected to the President's
office, ......sometime before September of 2009.

This will be the 62nd WEEK ( of years) of Daniel's prophecy, and either shortly before or shortly after New York City and Washington are wiped off the map, a very large asteroid will hit in mid Atlantic, causing enormous problems to the east coast of North America and the west coast of Europe.

I just thought I would bring everyone interested up to date.

Nevertheless, you won't have to wait too long....it IS going to take place.....just a few extra months to enjoy yourselves while you can.....maybe a few extra jumps !
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So we've got about 7 months.



No wonder thoughtful people find it hard to hear the teachings of Christ over the wolf cries of the false prophets. sheesh! At least Hal Lindsey was smart enough to say a generation could be 80 years instead of 40. Of course he said this after 1986 passed, now he has until 2026 for his end time prophesies. When is wrong again he will either be dead or too demented to care. :S

steveOrino

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Ghostpilot    0

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Any Updates on this? Two years later...



Apparently, it's back on.

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Nancy Pelosi on today's vote: "What we're trying to do is save the world from the Republican budget. We're trying to save life on this planet as we know it today."


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/pelosis-reactionary-liberalism_577709.html#ixzz1TUnOZfj9



http://nation.foxnews.com/debt-crisis/2011/07/28/pelosi-were-trying-save-life-planet-we-know-it-today

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