speedformula 0 #1 September 20, 2001 From what I've been able to gather, We should be able to find ourselves hangin at the manifesting window.yeah !!!! Cuz All I Wanna do is Skydive !!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #2 September 20, 2001 It appears that if you are outside of class B airspace and neither above nor below it you are OK!!!!!!! The Dutchboyhttp://www.geocities.com/ppolstra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #3 September 20, 2001 don't play with me man!! if i get down to the dz on sunday and the parking lot is empty again i will hunt you down and toss you out the plane on a trash packed Sabre 150 with a Huge pilot chute and loose leg straps damn that would hurt like a bitch wouldn't it!!!I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpervali 1 #4 September 20, 2001 Thats what it reads like to me too. On the 8:30 aopa post.jumpervali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #5 September 20, 2001 Anyone from Houston know what this means for us?? There was other chat today about changing the Airspace Perimeters. I thought Spaceland was somewhat in the Hobby Airport flight pattern. Skydive Houston should be ok. Any Word?? Fly Your Slot ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #6 September 20, 2001 Does this mean us ???? (please please)form AOPA site:Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:20:58 PM — While conducting a Pilot Town Meeting in Columbus, Ohio, AOPA President Phil Boyer was called by his staff, advising him that a notam had just been released by the FAA authorizing the limited return of Part 91 VFR flights. "This is an crucial step in restoring the nation's important general aviation system. Rest assured the effort isn't finished," said Boyer. VFR is now permitted for U.S. registered aircraft outside of "enhanced" Class B airspace; that is, Class B airspace within the lateral limits from the surface to infinity. No VFR flights are permitted over the top of Class B airspace, nor are VFR operations permitted from airports and airspace "under the shelf" of Class B airspace. In addition, several Temporary Flight Restrictions remain in effect. Under the FAA notam, VFR flight training operations are prohibited. However, AOPA has been advised by the FAA that this will be discussed at a meeting with the White House on Thursday morning. In addition, restrictions continue to apply to banner towing, traffic watch/reporting, airship/blimps, and news reporting------------------------------------------jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #7 September 20, 2001 Yeeeeeaaaaaaaa baaaaaaabeeee!!----EXAMPLES OF AUTHORIZED OPERATIONS, OUTSIDE "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE" INCLUDE: AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE REPOSITIONING. BALLOONS. CIVIL AIR PATROL. GLIDERS. MANUFACTURER PRODUCTION FLIGHT TESTS. MAPPING/PHOTOGRAPHY MISSIONS. PIPELINE/POWERLINE INSPECTIONS. SEAPLANES. SKYDIVING. ULTRALIGHTS. WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS. Then, I saw these two guys swoopin across the pond, and I was like 'weeeeeee!!!!' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cajedge 0 #8 September 20, 2001 WOOHOO!!! Read the NOTAM and it specifically lists skydiving as one of the examples allowed outside of enhanced class b airspace (err, yeah, what wb said *g*).. now wtf is enhanced class b airspace? :-)Now just hope for blue skies nationwide!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingMarc 0 #9 September 20, 2001 Can I just say... yay...!After everything that's happened a little altitude will clear everybody's head, I know it will mine...Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rogue108 0 #10 September 20, 2001 According to the AOPA website it looks like we can jump. I hope what I read there works out in reality.Here is the link to the AOPA website bulletin, if anyone is interested in reading it.http://38.200.9.137/010915tfr.html#special Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #11 September 20, 2001 This is text from the actual NOTAM issued by the FAA.. Quote EXAMPLES OF AUTHORIZED OPERATIONS, OUTSIDE "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE" INCLUDE: AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE REPOSITIONING. BALLOONS. CIVIL AIR PATROL. GLIDERS. MANUFACTURER PRODUCTION FLIGHT TESTS. MAPPING/PHOTOGRAPHY MISSIONS. PIPELINE/POWERLINE INSPECTIONS. SEAPLANES. SKYDIVING. ULTRALIGHTS. WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS. What, you might ask, is the enhanced Class B airspace?Quote SPECIAL NOTICE.. NOTE: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS NOTAM, "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE" IS DEFINED AS THAT AIRSPACE WITHIN THE EXTREME LATERAL LIMIT OF CLASS B AIRPACE FROM SURFACE TO INFINITY (I.E. SUCH OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED WITHIN, BELOW, OR ABOVE CLASS B AIRSPACE): What the above means is this....if the DZ is within the lateral limits of ANY class B airspace, operations are still prohibited.. Most DZ's fall outside of any Class B airspace, but there are a few that fall within.. To find out if yours does, call the DZ and ask.. If nobody in the office knows, ask for one of the pilots - they will know.. Class B airspace is what exists at most large airports - San Diego International, LAX, San Francisco, Seattle, Denver International, Salt Lake City International, Chicago, Detroit, most of the NYC area airports, etc.... Class B airspace extends, normally, a maximum of 30NM from the primary airport in all directions..On the downside......Quote THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED: CIVIL AIRCRAFT VFR FLIGHT TRAINING OPERATIONS BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS SIGHT SEEING FLIGHT OPERATIONS CONDUCTED FOR COMPENSATION OR HIRE (UNDER PART 91, PURSUANT TO THE EXCEPTION IN 119.1(e)(2)) TRAFFIC WATCH FLIGHT OPERATIONS AIRSHIP/BLIMP OPERATIONS NEWS REPORTING OPERATIONS For those of you that are either CFI's or students, you are still grounded unless you go IFR.. Hopefully they will lift this VERY soon - many flight schools won't be able to take this much longer.. I wouldn't be suprised to see many go out of business, unfortunately..It's definitely nice to see that skydiving is SPECIFICALLY addressed in the section of operations allowed - that leads me to believe that USPA has, indeed, been quite active in this whole situation.. Good job, guys..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #12 September 20, 2001 I checked and all four Atlanta DZ's are outside of the enhanced Class B. It's amazing just how far out that airspace goes over the busiest airport in the world. All but Atlanta Air Sportz are just barely outside the airspace.If I wanted to fly to Skydive Atlanta it would be like 200 miles and would probably be quicker to drive! I'm not going to bitch though, anything to get back in the air again.The Dutchboyhttp://www.geocities.com/ppolstra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #13 September 20, 2001 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!God, that felt good. --------------Richmond Boogie pics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #14 September 20, 2001 uh oh for Richmond.......check this out. What is DAY's classification??check it out!!Anyone know??--------------Richmond Boogie pics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,434 #15 September 20, 2001 SPECIAL NOTICE.. NOTE: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS NOTAM, "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE" IS DEFINED AS THAT AIRSPACE WITHIN THE EXTREME LATERAL LIMIT OF CLASS B AIRPACE FROM SURFACE TO INFINITY (I.E. SUCH OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED WITHIN, BELOW, OR ABOVE CLASS B AIRSPACE): Well, that leaves us out. We're right under the eastern edge of SAN class B.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 #16 September 20, 2001 KDAY is class C airspace and is aprox. 20 miles away from RID (Richmond) so no worries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #17 September 20, 2001 Quote Well, that leaves us out. We're right under the eastern edge of SAN class B. Which airport are you guys based at? I don't see any airports right under the eastern edge.. SAN Class B has some funky boundaries.. Then again, the only program I have shows only airports with IAP's - not VFR only airports..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #19 September 20, 2001 QuotefreedomWell said, Lew. --------------Richmond Boogie pics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #20 September 20, 2001 Amen to that Lew!!!MarcBecause I fly, I envy no man on earth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #21 September 20, 2001 See you Saturday at sunup Lew? [smile}Be safe, be smooth, be fast..... and most importantly.... be phree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #22 September 20, 2001 hey bill please tell me your joking!!! I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,434 #23 September 20, 2001 >Which airport are you guys based at? I don't see any airports right under >the eastern edge..Otay lake, officially known as John Nichols field. Not on the sectional. -bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kelly 0 #24 September 20, 2001 what does this mean for those of us at Cross Keys?!?!? were located about 20 minutes from philly. THe airport is only 10-15 minutes over the bridge. Often times the jets fly low over cross keys... CAN WE JUMP!?!?!?some body answer me soon!kel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,434 #25 September 20, 2001 >hey bill please tell me your joking!!! Nope, sorry. If we can taxi the Otter down to Brown Field, though, we could jump on the airport there . . . It might be a little wide to fit down Telegraph Canyon road, though.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Viking 0 #22 September 20, 2001 hey bill please tell me your joking!!! I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,434 #23 September 20, 2001 >Which airport are you guys based at? I don't see any airports right under >the eastern edge..Otay lake, officially known as John Nichols field. Not on the sectional. -bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 0 #24 September 20, 2001 what does this mean for those of us at Cross Keys?!?!? were located about 20 minutes from philly. THe airport is only 10-15 minutes over the bridge. Often times the jets fly low over cross keys... CAN WE JUMP!?!?!?some body answer me soon!kel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,434 #25 September 20, 2001 >hey bill please tell me your joking!!! Nope, sorry. If we can taxi the Otter down to Brown Field, though, we could jump on the airport there . . . It might be a little wide to fit down Telegraph Canyon road, though.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
