Muenkel 0 #1 October 17, 2003 Has anyone jumped to the other side as a result of any political thread here? I admit I have gotten sucked into quite a few, but I have come to the conclusion that they are a complete waste of time and effort. If you're sick of the political threads, I say just boycott them. I'm in horror thinking about what Talk Back will be like 1 year from now. If I seem a little bitter, it's because I hate the fucking Yankees!!! Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 October 17, 2003 I just like politics. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #3 October 17, 2003 Some people hate the politics thread, others hate the sex threads, others hate the sports and and god forbid... some people hate the religious threads. (Nice pun huh? ) No one is forcing anyone to read or reply to any thread. I only read about 5-6 threads out of Talkback anymore (unless its 2:30 in the morning and I can't sleep)since I just don't have any interst in a lot of the topics. Its the same with cable TV, 85 channels, and I only watch a dozen of them... Things come and go on DZ.com. In my 3 years here I've seen lots of people and topics come and go... Soon it will be time for another round of Cypres, RSL, 7 vs 9 cell, and best container debates. Join those... they never change peoples minds either.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #4 October 17, 2003 LOL at phree and the cypres CYCLE comment! the political /religious stuff I stay away from b/c there (IMHO) is no way to express ones view in words unless you got the time to type a book! ANY little comment will be misconstrued, or even taken the wrong way ( HAHA pun intended) I like reading some of them sometimes but I admit I get heated up sometimes! LOLMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 49 #5 October 17, 2003 As a South African who has experienced enormous political turmoil and who lives in what is now virtually a one-party state, I must confess that I am fascinated by the political threads. I never take part in them simply because I am too ignorant and wouldn't presume to have any constructive input to give about another country's politics. However, I am a keen observer and I have learnt a lot by following these threads. I am very impressed by the knowledge and eloquence of some of the more regular participants in these threads - Bill von, Wendy and John Kallend come immediately to mind. I am on the other hand often appalled at the xenophobia, intolerance and war-mongering I sometimes encounter here , but that in turn re-inforces my admiration for what is true freedom of expression. I doubt that this is the 'purpose of the politcal threads', but I for one am of the opinion that they have real value. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #6 October 17, 2003 I stay away from them now - it's just a waste of time (pig-wrestling)... "The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phatcat 0 #7 October 17, 2003 It's a release. People, to various degrees, have to express their views. It's a human requirement and to suppress it brings mental injury. Quote Has anyone jumped to the other side as a result of any political thread here? Ahh HAA! You're digging into my personal feelings about the futility of domestic debate here. And, for what it's worth, I completely agree. Nobody says "well, h'mmm, I guess you're right, I'm a dumbass." With that said, people will express their views in whatever medium they have available, like it or not. With the Korean crisis now taking the front of American discourse despite the unresolved Iraq situation, we will see more of the same. EDIT: This post was broght to you by Jack Daniels - committed to proving that intoxicated Minnesotan ignorant fuckheads can sound like they know what the hell they are talking about. Go Duluth!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 October 17, 2003 QuoteI am on the other hand often appalled at the xenophobia, intolerance and war-mongering I sometimes encounter here Dont worry be happy.... Don't you see we are on a roll.. WW III has already started and its US OR THEM....even right here in this country... ONly the GOOD Conservatives.. can protect us from the evil satanistic terrorists and lefty liberals who are lurking everywhere. And we have our Defender of the Faith to Lead us thru this time of Turmoil till Armegeddon happens and we will all be saved... well at least IF you share thier political/moral values. All others who do not believe in this brand of fundamentalism are the spawn of Satan. http://www.historynewsnetwork.org/articles/article.html?id=428 Jeanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #9 October 17, 2003 Quote- Bill von, Wendy and John Kallend come immediately to mind. I'm hurt...I've always enjoyed sparring with them. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #10 October 17, 2003 QuoteI never take part in them simply because I am too ignorant and wouldn't presume to have any constructive input to give about another country's politics. It doesn't stop Juansky, (BOOM BOOM)You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #11 October 17, 2003 btw- god is a monkey! sorry chris and gary. I know this will ruffle some feather but I am just messing with ya!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #12 October 17, 2003 Some people just like to argue... I get paid to do it so would never even dream of doing it on here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
testpilot 0 #13 October 17, 2003 To piss the opposition off. Dave D830 http://www.skydiving.co.za Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 49 #14 October 17, 2003 QuoteQuote- Bill von, Wendy and John Kallend come immediately to mind. I'm hurt...I've always enjoyed sparring with them. Indeed. My apologies. I have been following your arguments in the 'Holy war' thread with interest. It would help if some of your sparring partners in that thread had some substance to them, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 49 #15 October 17, 2003 QuoteDont worry be happy.... Always... QuoteAll others who do not believe in this brand of fundamentalism are the spawn of Satan. Saw some well-qualified candidates in the 'Holy war' thread! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #16 October 17, 2003 I tend to avoid the 'domestic' debates, eg will Arnie make a good governor? type stuff... I do like to hear what like minded ordinary people from different regions and cultures have to say about global issues though, it helps me form balanced considered opinions.... "it's because I hate the fucking Yankees" Ya fuckin' redneck... Joking aside, we are from all points around the globe, its good for us to talk, regardless of our own standpoint.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #17 October 17, 2003 QuoteWhat's the purpose of the political threads? [sarcasm] Why, that's easy to answer Chris. It helps clearly illustrate the vast intellectual superiority of liberal thinkers. Knowing how much smarter and wiser we are just gives us this big warm and fuzzy feeling, kind of like seeing metaphorical boobies when there are no real ones there. It just makes you feel good, gloating over the poor, hapless conservatives. [/sarcasm] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,122 #18 October 17, 2003 Quote Has anyone jumped to the other side as a result of any political thread here? Probably not. Have people moderated their views, learned something new, or learned how to respect the other side? Most definitely. One at a time, but it still helps. Oh -- and while I haven't "jumped to the other side," I have moderated some views myself. By understanding the opposition, you learn more, and can have a much fuller picture. I really appreciate that. Not to mention that if you can learn to respect someone you disagree with, and treat them respectfully, then you have a much better discussion. I like the fact that no one ever interrupts me when I'm composing my thoughts. They might ignore them, but at least I get to finish what I'm saying. What I really loathe are the sotto-voce "conversations" that some folks like to have on-forum. It's chickenshit. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,122 #19 October 17, 2003 Well, I did moderate some views -- I've learned that Gawain and Michele can spell, which completely ruins my preconception that conservatives can't write Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #20 October 17, 2003 QuoteWhat I really loathe are the sotto-voce "conversations" I really hate when people need to throw foriegn phrases into a perfectly good English conversations. It just takes away that je ne sais quoi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #21 October 17, 2003 QuoteJoin those... they never change peoples minds either. One particular RSL thread changed my mind about having one on my rig. Isn't about time for another legalize drugs argument. That one usually comes up shortly after a good gun control argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pammi 0 #22 October 17, 2003 That's really cool Erroll. I hadn't thought about that aspect of the political threads; that they might be enlightening, or at the very least, interesting to people who have a very different type of political climate where they live. I personally feel the same as you, too ignorant of politics in general even though I live in the US to feel comfortable debating in them because I try not to argue about something unless I'm certain or feel strongly about it. I'm with you, however, on the general feeling of disappointment when a healthy debate turns personal or hateful. That's another reason I generally don't pay much attention to the political or religios threads. My mom always taught me that you never talk about politics and religion with friends if you want to remain friends Pammi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #23 October 17, 2003 To find out which posters to watch out forThe older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #24 October 17, 2003 It's to goad the right wingers into long replies. I figure the time they spend typing reduces the time they can spend making real trouble.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldnewbie 0 #25 October 17, 2003 Although i have not participated in any religous or political threads, I have read many of them over the last year!! I haven't changed any of my opinions/beliefs, but I have learned to accept the beliefs of others (even if i know that they are wrong!!! only joking). I've found that even though i am so very much different from most skydivers, I have found them to be one of the most accepting group of people that i have ever met!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
