wildcard451 0 #1 September 4, 2006 http://au.news.yahoo.com/060904/23/10ebv.html never saw that shit coming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #2 September 4, 2006 Quotehttp://au.news.yahoo.com/060904/23/10ebv.html never saw that shit coming. when did you have time to start another thread? did you type this w/ your dry pecker? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #3 September 4, 2006 You just ruined my night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #4 September 4, 2006 Seems to be. Beat me to the post by half a hair.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #5 September 4, 2006 That's actually really sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #6 September 4, 2006 QuoteSeems to be. Beat me to the post by half a hair. to many posts to read the link... gimme the short version... did a croc eat him? or was it a boring death like heart attack. saddens me, regardless. nice guy, even though alot of peeps teased him. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #7 September 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteSeems to be. Beat me to the post by half a hair. to many posts to read the link... gimme the short version... did a croc eat him? or was it a boring death like heart attack. saddens me, regardless. nice guy, even though alot of peeps teased him. Stingray barb through the chest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #8 September 4, 2006 Tried to play Jesus with a stingray. Forgot he's not Jewish, stayed dead.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #9 September 4, 2006 Quote That's actually really sad. and oh yeah....one more thing. HI LIZ!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #10 September 4, 2006 I swam with the stingrays in the Grand Caymans and never knew of them to "attack" ...we were instructed to have a handfull of calamari as feed and allow them to suck it from our hands and then they swam off..very docile animals..called ballerinas of the sea....(accidentally rubbed my hip under water and had calamari juice on my hand I guess and a stingray sucked a hickey on my hip..but nothing scarey) so I wonder how that happened especially since he knew more than anyone about various animal behavior and do's/don'ts...I'm sure Bindi-Sue will continue his legacy...she's a brave little girlDamn...how sad... _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #11 September 4, 2006 QuoteTried to play Jesus with a stingray. Forgot he's not Jewish, stayed dead. FUCK! Seriously bad way to go. BW*BD *Water I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #12 September 4, 2006 damn that's harsh... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #13 September 4, 2006 Quote I swam with the stingrays in the Grand Caymans and never knew of them to "attack" Hey - I've been there - Stingray Alley. Two days later I was diving with wild rays, and they are like different animals. The ones in Stingray Alley are much more like pets, and they seemed to put up with a lot of abuse (getting stepped on, etc) that a wild one wouldn't. When my students ask about stingrays, I tell them the same thing I tell them for all animals - look but don't touch. The sting has venom, but it's usually non-lethal (unless you're allergic to bees). For him to take a barb in the chest, I can only think of a few scenarios, and one of them would involve trying to handle the ray - bad idea. It's also possible that he was swimming very close to the sandy bottom, and a buried ray got startled - just bad luck.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenz 0 #14 September 4, 2006 that actually bums me out - what a freakin sad way to go - at least it was doing what he loved rest in peace mr irwin"life does throw curveballs sometimes but it doesn't mean we shouldn't still swing for the homerun" ~ me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #15 September 4, 2006 Who the hell gets killed by a stingray? Just another example of "When it's your day..........it's your day." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #16 September 4, 2006 QuoteQuote I swam with the stingrays in the Grand Caymans and never knew of them to "attack" Hey - I've been there - Stingray Alley. Two days later I was diving with wild rays, and they are like different animals. The ones in Stingray Alley are much more like pets, and they seemed to put up with a lot of abuse (getting stepped on, etc) that a wild one wouldn't. When my students ask about stingrays, I tell them the same thing I tell them for all animals - look but don't touch. The sting has venom, but it's usually non-lethal (unless you're allergic to bees). For him to take a barb in the chest, I can only think of a few scenarios, and one of them would involve trying to handle the ray - bad idea. It's also possible that he was swimming very close to the sandy bottom, and a buried ray got startled - just bad luck. can you tell me more about barbs? to take one in the chest, it sounds like he was stabbed w/ a sword! is this accurate? how far can they penetrate? or is it not a matter of depth of penetration but of venom/poison that would be lethal? i thought the barbs were more flexible. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #17 September 4, 2006 Quote That's actually really sad. But not at all unexpected, I'm just surprised it was a stingray, you really have to piss them off to get them to defend themselves like that, I know, I've done it a few times CRIKEY, I wonder what happens when I poke this little bugger...Well it pokes BACKYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #18 September 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote I swam with the stingrays in the Grand Caymans and never knew of them to "attack" Hey - I've been there - Stingray Alley. Two days later I was diving with wild rays, and they are like different animals. The ones in Stingray Alley are much more like pets, and they seemed to put up with a lot of abuse (getting stepped on, etc) that a wild one wouldn't. When my students ask about stingrays, I tell them the same thing I tell them for all animals - look but don't touch. The sting has venom, but it's usually non-lethal (unless you're allergic to bees). For him to take a barb in the chest, I can only think of a few scenarios, and one of them would involve trying to handle the ray - bad idea. It's also possible that he was swimming very close to the sandy bottom, and a buried ray got startled - just bad luck. can you tell me more about barbs? to take one in the chest, it sounds like he was stabbed w/ a sword! is this accurate? how far can they penetrate? or is it not a matter of depth of penetration but of venom/poison that would be lethal? i thought the barbs were more flexible. If it is what I'm imagining ...the barb is the tail...and it is so hard/stiff and barb...like a catfish...and if used in defense would definitely hurt/kill...i touched the tail of the "tamed" ones on my trip and they were really hard and I personally wouldn't want to be attacked...but I was taught that if I was gentle with walking and didn't step on one or make them feel as if they were threatened then they wouldn't attack...so Phil...what did he do that made them feel threatened? _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #19 September 4, 2006 QuoteWell it pokes BACK Witha poison poker, too. Man, that's just sad. Wrong and sad. Crazy guy, but just not a way to go. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vamp 0 #20 September 4, 2006 http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/mag/47/stingrays.html Info regarding barbs and whatnot. Huh. Who would've thought? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #21 September 4, 2006 Quotecan you tell me more about barbs? to take one in the chest, it sounds like he was stabbed w/ a sword! is this accurate? how far can they penetrate? or is it not a matter of depth of penetration but of venom/poison that would be lethal? i thought the barbs were more flexible. Hard to say - the barbs can penetrate maybe only an inch, depending on the size and species of the ray (and the thickness of your wetsuit I guess). Most stings are to people's feet when they step on the poor guys, and are non-fatal, but very painful. The barb itself it pretty rigid, but the tail is very flexible and can whip around to strike in many positions. The venom shouldn't kill you - but I could see a scenario where it punctured or paralyzed his heart muscle or an artery. Sting to the chest? Very, very rare. Either he was swimming close the bottom and got very unlucky, or he made the mistake of trying to handle a wild ray. Given that he tends to handle dangerous animals routinely, speculation will abound. Edit - found a pretty good drawing of a ray that shows where the barb is.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #22 September 4, 2006 thanks vamp and riddler for the info. man. just frickin crazy. hope he didn't suffer long I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #23 September 4, 2006 Quote man. just frickin crazy. hope he didn't suffer long I hope he didn't either, but for sure his wife and two kids will. Not to mention the whole of the Australia Zoo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #24 September 4, 2006 QuoteQuote man. just frickin crazy. hope he didn't suffer long I hope he didn't either, but for sure his wife and two kids will. Not to mention the whole of the Australia Zoo. no doubt, no noubt. i wonder what Leno will say... seems like irwin was always on there. i don't have tv, so I'll miss it, whatever it is. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrion 0 #25 September 4, 2006 QuoteHard to say - the barbs can penetrate maybe only an inch, depending on the size and species of the ray (and the thickness of your wetsuit I guess). Most stings are to people's feet when they step on the poor guys, and are non-fatal, but very painful. The barb itself it pretty rigid, but the tail is very flexible and can whip around to strike in many positions. The venom shouldn't kill you - but I could see a scenario where it punctured or paralyzed his heart muscle or an artery. Apparently he died from an instant heart attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
