SarahC07 0 #1 February 13, 2004 Hi! Warning: newbie idiot questions coming your way: I'm looking at used/new gear and came across a complete system that has a tempo 150 reserve. I am only remotely familiar with one type of reserve and it's not a tempo. Does anyone know anything about them? And while I'm asking, what are the main differences in a reserve and a main canopy? Why are reserves generally cheaper than mains? If I were to buy a reserve used, what is the maximum number of rides it should have? In fact, why IS there a maximum number of rides... ? Do the reserves wear down faster? I'm open to any advice.. I'm a newbie with all kinds of idiot questions! Thanks for the help! ~Sarah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #2 February 13, 2004 AggieDave didn't cover all of this for you??? The Tempo is one of the top 3-4 reserves out there, no worries. In regards to the strict rules about number of rides/repacks - would you want to risk the only thing saving your life in the case of a malfunction to someone that has been repacked and ridden quite a bit? I wouldn't. But I'm a newbie too, so don't listen to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #3 February 13, 2004 My first reserve was a Tempo 150. It had 2 jumps on it when I got it, (1 terminal 1 subterminal). I had a terminal on it and it worked beautifully. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivingdutch 0 #4 February 13, 2004 Thats the reseve I have, but I havent had to use it yet :) Hope I never will. http://dropman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC07 0 #5 February 13, 2004 Hmm... how do you know I talk to AggieDave about all of this stuff? How does a tempo stack up next to a PD reserve? The tempo I was looking at has no reserve rides... I should really find out how old it is.... hm.... Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #6 February 13, 2004 QuoteHow does a tempo stack up next to a PD reserve?PD is much better quality. Has better reinforment. Better flight characteristics. Tempo flies fine opens fine and works. PD does it better.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #7 February 13, 2004 maybe he knows cause you jump at aggieland... to find out the age of the reserve, the manufacturing date should be written on it (I think) and you should also have the repack card or a copy of it to find out how many times it has been packed.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC07 0 #8 February 13, 2004 Well, lets say for comparison purposes... the tempo 150 is 2 years old with no reserve rides... and in good condition... If I were to buy it... and then try to sell it... any idea how much I could get for it? I was thinking I'd buy the complete system, sell the tempo reserve and buy a new PD reserve to replace it. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #9 February 13, 2004 Quote I was thinking I'd buy the complete system, sell the tempo reserve and buy a new PD reserve to replace it. Why not buy the rig, keep the tempo and spend the extra money on jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #10 February 13, 2004 QuoteWell, lets say for comparison purposes... the tempo 150 is 2 years old with no reserve rides... and in good condition... If I were to buy it... and then try to sell it... any idea how much I could get for it? I was thinking I'd buy the complete system, sell the tempo reserve and buy a new PD reserve to replace it. Thanks Every area of the country has a different perceived value. Some drop zones have certain prejudice that make the perceived value of an item change. In my market, I would value a used Tempo between $450.00 and $500.00. A used PD goes between $600.00 and $700.00 depending on DOM and # rides. A new one sells for $ 883.20 just about anywhere. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #11 February 13, 2004 In my opinion there is no need to dump the Tempo to buy a PD. Most of what you hear about one canopy/reserve/rig being better than the other is opinion or marketing. We all have our favorites and our not so favorites. If your overloading the reserve, flight characteristics or extra reinforcing might be important. If your within placard don't worry about it. There are a lot more important things to worry about, like opening your main.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #12 February 13, 2004 Tempo's are great reserves. They have been around for ever and seem to do just fine. I actually have a Tempo 150 in my container. Theis first reserve I ever bought was a Tempo 170. Never used it, but it never worried about it either.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #13 February 14, 2004 Tempo's a decent reserve. Note that you shouldn't be worried about the number of deployments so much as the number of pack jobs, unless a jump caused damage (like landing on a fence.) Canopies are damaged more by handling and packing than by deployment. PD requires that you send their reserves back to the factory for a comprehensive inspection after 25 deployments or 40 repacks; that's a good guide for other reserves as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 February 14, 2004 If I were to buy it... and then try to sell it... any idea how much I could get for it? I was thinking I'd buy the complete system, sell the tempo reserve and buy a new PD reserve to replace it. *** You could probably trade the Tempo reserve in for a new reserve of your choosing for $100 with a gear store. My buddy just did that. He went from a Raven Dash M 150 with 0 jumps on it to a new Smart 120. Smart is made by Aerodyne Research, who makes the Triathlons. I use a Triathlon and Tempo myself. The Tempo gets me down safely although I admit the controls felt a little mushy on the one reserve ride I had on it. Blue Skies Billy"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aubsmell 0 #15 February 14, 2004 Sarah- in my opinion both are good reserves, the Tempo is a little light on the reinforcement tape, but it does have the title of number one selling square reserve canopy of all times- The PD has a ton of tape and is pretty damn structurally sound, neither one of these reserves have had many problemw with failing to do their duty when called upon. However technology has come a long way and there are other reserves on the market now that incorporate a ton of well placed tape and good flying charachteristics. I'm sure when you choose a reserve you'll make a SMART choice (you people know I've been waiting to use that one) Aubrey Aerodyne (manufacturer of the Smart Reserve) PS have a good weekend of jumping, hopefully your weather is better than it is in Z hills today."Those who say it cannot be done, should not interrupt those who are doing it" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMURRAY 1 #16 February 14, 2004 MarkM has hit the nail on the head. The Tempo is fine - spend money on jumps. I would not mind a PD reserve also but find they are (too) expensive - I'll spend my cash on tunnel time, coaches, team jumps etc.... rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloud9 0 #17 February 14, 2004 I have two rides on a Tempo 150, I bought it new with my rig. I have no complaints at all, it opened great it flew ok nothing special, and landed just fine. I will say this it either is or it seems smaller then advertised. It really didn't look any bigger then my 130 main and landed like a 135 it also packs up like a 135. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivejunky 0 #18 February 15, 2004 I've got three rides on a Tempo 120. You might want to remember to take a wrap on the steering lines as they tend to be a little long. I don't think they land to well myself compared to other seven cell canopies but they do the job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 8 #19 February 15, 2004 QuoteTempo flies fine opens fine and works. Good Enough For me =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SniperCJ 0 #20 February 15, 2004 Ive got jumps on a Tempo, a PD, and a Raven. I love em all. The Tempo performed as well as the other, more expensive ones. JC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #21 February 16, 2004 QuoteI have two rides on a Tempo 150, I bought it new with my rig. I have no complaints at all, it opened great it flew ok nothing special, and landed just fine. I will say this it either is or it seems smaller then advertised. It really didn't look any bigger then my 130 main and landed like a 135 it also packs up like a 135. PISA and Atair probably use different measuring methods, so it may very well be that they're closer in size than the 130 vs 150 would normally seem. I guess a PD 143 and Tempo 150 are supposed to be about the same size. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 8 #22 February 16, 2004 I know PISA sold out, but why on earth did they discontinue the Tempo - I thought It was one of their most popular products? =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #23 February 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteI have two rides on a Tempo 150, I bought it new with my rig. I have no complaints at all, it opened great it flew ok nothing special, and landed just fine. I will say this it either is or it seems smaller then advertised. It really didn't look any bigger then my 130 main and landed like a 135 it also packs up like a 135. PISA and Atair probably use different measuring methods, so it may very well be that they're closer in size than the 130 vs 150 would normally seem. I guess a PD 143 and Tempo 150 are supposed to be about the same size. A Tempo 150 is 148 sq. ft., the 170 is 178 and 210 is 203. Your guess is as good as mine. (Temop Packing Manual) SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karlm 0 #24 February 16, 2004 The Tempo Reserve was manufactured by PISA (Parachute Industries of South Africa) they had been around for years, and the Tempo was one of the top selling reserves in it's day. I have had one ride on a Tempo 170, sub terminal and it opened fine and landed good. Remember a reserve is there to get you to the ground safely. I would have no doubt in purchasing a Tempo reserve and jumping it. You will not go wrong with it. - PISA has now been absorbed by Aerodyne, so the quality and manufacturing ethics are sure to have been first class for that sort of merger. Better never to have met you in my dream than to wake and reach for hands that are not there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cousindave 0 #25 February 16, 2004 The tempo is a perfectly good canopy, but it does not have as much reinforment as the PD or Aerodyne Strong reserve. so i would not buy one with more than 2 or 3 deployments on it. David Ames Used Gear Specialists http://www.cousindave.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
