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Isn't that what drogues for.... 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

And if you can't remember your off the hook.. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1332568;search_string=cypres%20vigil;#1332568 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

You can become very good at doing something badly if you do it for long enough.... 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

1. 4000+ 2. 4 3. Total at 150 jumps (Unfamaliar with the gear) Packing error (step through) at 250 jumps. Blew up main at 1400 jumps (line dump/bag strip) and lineover on tandem at 2400 jumps. 3 cutaways. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

I actually support the concepts that the school promotes. NZ needs well trained skydivers to come through and take over from old grumpy buggers like me. I have never met the proprietors of the school and have no personal connection with them - beit postive or negative. The OP had concerns, which I agreed with. Don't move the goalposts. If I shake someones hand, I will honour my agreement, which in this case seems not to be the case. If you wish to argue politics, make sure you have the facts to back you up. From the PMs you sent me I believe that you are somewhat naive and spottedly (sounds like a real word to me) informed. As to who I am, I'd rather keep that to myself. You know how tight and insular NZ politics are 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Sorry bother, but why the fuck should I as a NZ taxpayer be happy if I subsidize a course to give the recipients a 'foreign' qualification. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

What a complete load of bollocks!! The NZPIA was formed in partnership with the NZPF to administer the commercial side of skydiving, while the NZPF looked after the sports side of skydiving. The NZPIA insisted that all skydivers had to be financial members of the NZPf in order to be able to jump at any DZ in NZ-thereby supporting the financial base for sport skydiving. The shit hit the fan when some disgruntled person took the NZPIA to the Commerce Commission on the basis that they had the right to freedom of association and should not be forced to have to join one organisation or another. Hardly the NZPIAs fault. The fact that CAA in its wisdom decided to allow mulitple organisations to administer the sport/industry is another story... So bud, I suggest you get your facts right before spouting off with emotional half truths and claptrap. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Here are a couple of photos of my setup. Glued velcro hook to the case and pile to the glove. Have a bungee to hold it on if it gets a knock. Has worked perfectly to date. Plus one opening shot.. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Essentially it's attached with velcro. Glued the hook onto the back of the camera case and glued the pile onto the glove. Have a piece of bungy over it to hold it on the velcro. The camera is inside the case which is hinged so it can be accessed without removing it from the velcro, so the velcro won't lose strength through repeated cycles. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Yep, got it mounted under my vid camera. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Resized for posting. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

No,I thought I'd try the concept first before buying the HD model. These photos weren't photoshopped in anyway although I have taken out the 'black dot' using photoshop successfully. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Bought a Gopro wide camera and mounted it on my handcam glove. I'm happy with the results and it does give the punter an oppotunity to buy freefall photos as well as canopy ride photos if they want. Any one else using one for this purpose? 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

***Didnt the same people who started NZPara also have alot to do with starting NZPIA anyway?*** People or person. ParaNZ is essentially a one man band and I think not. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Why remove the catapault? Done 1000 jumps on a Reflex and used the reserve with 'catapault' installed. I'm still here. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Make sure that you have an AAD as it is mandatory in NZ 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Thanks for your long winded rant in support the NZSS. However the main problem as I understand it is that the students entered into the course and paid their fees only to find that half way through the goalposts were moved. The NZPIA is the most widely respected part 149 organisation in New Zealand and this is organisation that the students expected their licences to be issued by - as promised by NZSS when NZSS took the money. Half way through the course the school changes to a lesser recognised organisation, ParaNZ, which is not held in high regard within NZ skydiving circles. Just have a look at their respective websites to judge for yourself which is the most professional. I feel for the students who have been misled, spending thousands of dollars only to receive a license from a third rate organisation that will possibly not recognised within NZ, let alone overseas. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

What he said. Blues, Dave The 300 rocks along as well 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

A friend of mine is travelling to the US shortly and skydiving is on the agenda. He is looking for travel insurance that covers skydiving but cannot find any. Can anyone recommend cover? Is it possible to pick up cover in the US? And what horror stories are out there when someone has been injured without insurance? 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

My Handbury didn't have any closing loops in the reserve tray or flaps at all. The loops were on an aluminium 'kicker plate' which the pilot chute was positioned on. This plate was usually lost in the event that the reserve was used - although I never had the oppotunity to lose mine. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

Not so sure that the NZPIA is involved that much anymore. 3 different organisations with 3 different standards in NZ now. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

How can a TI 'forget' to throw the drogue? 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

My first rig was a Handbury. The interesting feature it had was the placement of the pilot chute which was in a pouch in the small of the back with a small handle velcroed onto the belly band. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.