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well thats true. htere is no doubt that they have done some shady shit. Of course it wasnt all illegal but most def some questionable shit. If they are advertising in Nashville area and jumping in the area then I dont really see where that aspect of their business is wrong or a scam. I have heard some good things about that DZ and the work they do so I hate to see them hurt by this if they were misrepresented. I think for the news to say its a scheme is over the line. I'm sure they do all they can to jump as much as possible. DOesnt every DZ??? I mean they are skydivers

here is a direct quote from six flags "INCLEMENT WEATHER For your safety, certain rides may need to close during severe weather. Most restaurants, theaters and shops will remain open. Rides will re-open as soon as possible. Refunds and rain checks are not offered for inclement weather." they dont even offer rain checks. You are just stuck with a whiney kid and no chance for redemption. I hardly think a DZ's raincheck policy is enough to say its a unethical place. Concert tickets are the same way you get a raincheck and if you cant make it when its rescheduled you are screwed. At least the skydiving raincheck is flexible with dates. Its not a uncommon practice. Not only in skydiving but other businesses too. and from what i understand that policy is pretty clear when they purchase the jump. ONce again hardly enough to bas a DZ over. I went to one DZ in florida that charges people 5 dollars to watch landings. I think that is tacky but just my opinion. Oh yea and six flags doesnt give a shit if its your kids 12th birthday

so when you say someone is being a dick exactly what do you mean???? would it be like if I were to say shut the fuck up with your internet whining because you sound like a 12yr old girl??? Or do you mean something like "you guys are a bunch of non jumping dropzone.com pussies that seek out the internet for a place to voice your worhtless half ass opinions because nobody in the real world wants to hear your annoying fucking voice. Sadly this is the only place you feel like you can try to be important, either because you are a total social reject with no friends or because you hide in your moms basement like a filthy troll covered in your own feces and urine because you are scared of the daylight for fear that your ugly ass face will be exposed to some kind of glimmer of social interaction" I mean all this is hypothetical of course....I'm not really saying that. im just giving examples to try to understand what the parameters of "being a dick" is have a nice fucking day

word!! i know...it just seems like there is non stop whining on here about AFF.. geez let it rest already.

hahaha I love how people are getting bent about this ad. Could this drive a wedge between the DZ.com squatters and thier beloved site??? Its like a episode of Melrose place. Aready some are threatning to leave while others show there loyalty by sticking in there and accepting the mud splattered all over the screen when they log on. a little mud and advertising wont drive me away from my one true love...the only place that anyone will listen to my voice, a place where i can be "somebody". lol you guys are so dramatic!!!

carry a lap top with a card reader to the DZ

just because its done all the time doesnt make it right! i could follow with a infinite list...but i will spare the space

performance designs

NickDG i think you are a abject failure.....thanks for your rambling about the good ole days and your nice little trip down memory lane. Your commitment to holding on to the past is admirable but futile. Oh im sure that you guys did it better with your superior static line training. Should students also jump rounds or round reserves????? I mean you call AFF a failure.....but what real evidence do you have?????? Its not like AFF students are dying left and right. Its also not true that static line students are better skydivers. I dare you to try to prove that as a whole. Its also not like the sport is dying off due to AFF. As a matter of fact skydiving is about the only aviation industry that is surviving in this economy. Do they have alot to learn after AFF???hell yes! Are resources available and systems in place for that learning?? YES! Do aff students know shit about spotting??? probably not. Do static line students know shit about seperation between groups??? I doubt it! Its all relative.... so quit whining like a sentimental know it all school boy bitch and worry about your own problems. WHat did AFF ever do to you??????

diablo is outdated scrapped together piece of junk in comparison to some other canopies. If it was worth a damn good canopy companies would be making similar designs.

sounds like a slyride scheme to me. selling your info so another company can solicit business from you........dirty

I jump a main ripcord with spring-loaded pilot chute. Most jumpers don't know how to deal with that - they'll just mess something up. It's a straight pin, and I seat it the way I like it: deep enough for a firm hold, but not up the shank which can cause it to be bent. I can't trust someone else to position it exactly right like that. Furthermore, the pin protector flap has two "walrus teeth" tuck tabs, and if you tuck them in wrong, it can cause a hesitation as they lock all the flaps together. Those tuck tabs have to go under the side flaps only, not the top flap. I can't trust someone else to know that. So, the odds of someone catching a problem with my pin are low, compared to the odds of someone screwing it up and making things worse. Someone who thinks they're doing me a favor, can actually cause me a problem. I can reach behind me and feel my own pin, to know that it's okay. There are many different types of rigs, with many different types of deployment systems - very few of us can know enough about all of them to handle them correctly. So, please keep your hands off my rig. I don't have time to explain all this on jump run, so just trust me when I say "no", and don't make a big deal about it. these are special circumstances and are rare. But yes that is a understandable reason. However once again. Tampering with or "fixing" is different from checking. Most jumpers can recognize a seated pin

the top part of your response just backed up everything i said. You listed a bunch of things that you caught by gear checking other people. then turned around and said nobody needed to check yours. If you read my post correctly and completly you would see that I said its ok to get someone you know and trust to check it. YOur 3rd paragraph said exactly what i was saying. AND YES i automatically assume that everyone on a 35 way has the competence to perform a simple pin check!! Thats because we didnt assume they were experienced enough to be on the jump in the first place. Your logic makes no sense!! What do you think the odds are of someone on that jump not knowing how a to do a pin check???? EXACTLY!! less than those that do know how! So you are saying that since there is a snowballs chance in hell the guy behind you on this jump doesnt know what a correct pin looks like that you are better off not getting a check??? Let me give you some advice....dont go to vegas because your understanding of odds is nonexistant. Also you guys are acting like a pin check means they are tampering with it. Thats not a check! You guys are being silly about this dont touch my gear shit. YOu are better off more times than not by getting a gear check. And it doesnt hurt anything for someone to LOOK at it...and yes we all agree it ok to get someone you know to look at it. The point here is that you guys are ignoring the factors described by the OP. I hope YOur judgement with gear checks is better than your reading comprehension. And if you are climbing outside that airplane its my right and duty to check your shit. You obviously havent been in a airplane with a premature in the door from some ass that thought he was too good to get a gear check. I cant believe this line "With your holyer than thou attitude you wont be touching mine." Im the one with the holy than thou attitude???? Since i give a shit about the safety of the airplane and the jumpers on board You would rather spite me than get a gear check????? THats awesome!!! you are obviously too good for gear checks. And just so you know shit can happen on a rig without making serious contact or "hard" rubbing. _to clear some things up. I didnt ever say its ok or someones right to "play" with someone elses gear. A pin check isnt playing with gear its a visual inspection. _Also you guys are talking about people grabbing at your gear. That was never mentioned in the OP and has nothing to do with pin checks. Of course no one likes grabbing

the more i read this site the more things here make sense. The attitude in this thread explains alot of other threads on here. First of all, the OP said everyone on that load was experienced, so there would be no issue with someone not knowing what they were looking for. -second: Most pin checks in the plane before exit only consist of a main pin check. To make sure you can specify that. ThaT way no one is messing with your reserve flaps(even though I dont see the harm in that either) If they dont know how to open and close flaps they wouldnt be on a 35 way!!! -third: Someone opening your main pin cover and looking at your pin doesnt in any way effect the way you closed it or your pack job. I dont know what kind of pin checks you guys are talking about.....But everywhere i've been its a visual inspection. Pin seated? and pilot chute cocked? excess bridle? -fourth: Saying you dont need a pin check because you packed it is the dumbest shit ive ever heard. Are you or are you not crammed in a jump plane, T-bag to D-bag??? Whether or not you packed it has nothing to do with a pre-jump pin check. If you dont trust the guy behind you then ask someone on the load you do trust. -fifth: Whos the jackass that thinks its nobodies problem but his own? Everybody on that load has the right to check your gear!! Especially when they are all on the same jump! And especially if you are in a outside postion in the door. If that gear that you "didnt want anyone to touch" prematures and wraps the tail then i would say its all of a sudden everyones problem not just yours. -sixth: All you ego maniacs saying that you dont trust people touching your flaps or that you dont need a pin check because you pack for yourself well........If you dont trust them for something that simple then you shouldnt be on a jump with them. YOu guys are IDIOTS

I believe DSE is in fact guilty of copyright infringement. I'm pretty sure someone else invented breaking their hip from a low turn, yet DSE copied them anyway. HAHAHA just messing with you DSE, Im sure you have a sense of humor about it. Hope your dusty bones are reconsolidating nicely

if able to unstow a brake you should learn to pack. Or you should take a hammer and hit your packer in the taint.

slyde, im enjoying your expression

actually..we have the same opinion. my comment was soaked in sarcasm

apparently it is possible. I know of at least one chunky injun that has pulled it off.

its threads like this that reassure me about DZ.com being the "single best source of skydiving information"

The USPA will definately be sued, especially now that they have taken it upon themselves to have a bigger role in tandem certification. All they have done is open themselves to new liability. The USPA should lobby for rights, and thats it. They shouldnt be getting to involved in "regulating" the sport. The government wouldnt regulate the sport as much as the USPA has.

yay!!! im a winner!!!! sort of. You tell Mike if I make it too summerfest Im getting coaching from team your moms a whore. In my heart it will always be your name. Tell Noah hes come along way from doing tandems at pell city

check another thread. You will find different opinions. If you have a family you shouldnt jump. If you make any mistakes then quit. The sky will always be there, try again when you are older

well yea it is now. But it wasnt for a while. He waited till his sons were old enough to meet USPA requirements to jump before he joined. I dont blame him for that but he shouldnt have waited to run for official status as well. I cant think of a bigger example of hipocracy in our sport. When he ran I thought he was doing it to slap the USPA in the face. Kind of like HAHA i bought my way in with my deep pockets and fast airplane, now im not even going to join my DZ. Hell i thought it was funny. I was thinking "that Mike Mullins is a damn rebel". Now i dont know what to think of it. A man thats broke more BSR's than i can imagine is now slingin SIM quotes???? say what you want but he bought his way in initially, and didnt believe in the USPA enough to even join as a GM. I'm not saying he is doing a bad job but THat made a joke out of USPA leadership. Nothing personal against mike. His DZ is awesome. I just wish he was still spitting at the BSR's I guess. Where are the rebels??? Northern Cal???