Ion01

Ever wonder why (or did you know) that the US is not a democracy but a republic and why? James Madison said, "Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention, have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property, and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death."

There. I fixed that for you Lets see which group has more power? Businesses which are controlled by the consumers (meaning if the consumer believe AWG is happening will stop using exxon and such and those business fail) or the government which needs AGW to gain ultimate power over the business and consumers and has already taken the power to take a business such as GM and do as it pleases with it and controls the consumers with inflation, "stimulus", cap and trade, etc?

but... but.... the government is the only one we can trust! Its the CEO's who are evil lyers! This is just a false attack by those fear mongers and right wing extremists! They are just doing what is necessary to save us all....if it takes a couple lies to save the planet then the end justifies the means....right? Its about whats best for society right???? Sure, lets just keep trusting the ultimate power which corrupts ultimately that is the government! Lets just go ahead and give them healthcare! They said they won't ration it......why not just believe them? They said you can keep your doctor or your current healthcare......why not just believe them? Just continue to ignore the facts just like people did with AGW and take thier word for it. And for goodness sakes! Don't read the healthcare bill. If they said something why can't you just believe it? Obama has kept all his promises so far right? He said the first thing he would do was to get us out of Iraq and he did it....... and there would be no more ear marks in bills and he made sure of that.... and his government would be the most transparent ever and he did that (ignore the made up counties in oklahoma that made jobs with stimulus money....they didn't exist!!!)..... and he said he would put science in its rightful place and he is doing that..... and that if his stimulus passed unemployment wouldn't go over 8% and it didn't..... and.... and..... and.....

I am sure the instructor wasn't trying to be rude or anything. Different people have different learning methods and need different types of instructors. I probably would have like this guy a lot as I took things way to seriously (in a sense there is nothing more serious but....) that resulted in me being extremely tense during the jumps which ment I didn't arch well and other things. It took an instructor that told me not to be so serious and I didn't have to worry about this or that, like he is telling you, to get me relaxed and having fun. Once relaxed my mind was clear and everything came easy. On the other hand not everyone needs that kind of instructor. If he doesn't fit you and the way you learn....well you payed for the instruction so just nicely request one you like. Even now after learning all the instructors personalities at my home DZ I may wait to ask one a question but may wait to ask a different question to another one. PS. I find the DZO very intimidating to this day but I have also learned that he is extremely knowledgable and is the one that really keeps the dropzone running and safe and is actually very generous. I don't know what it is about him that intimidates me so much but he does.

Its not descrimination or a hate crime! Is it a descrimination or a hate crime to advertise student skydivers with smiles on their face and having fun because not all have fun and some freak out and are scared. Besides, we are supposed to be free, that means I am free to generalize, descriminate or even hate people if I want as long as I don't infringe on thier constitutional rights. On the other hand it is an infringement on my constitutional rights by saying I am not allowed to believe what I want, to make my own choices about my life and who I communicate with or exchange goods with or based on those beliefs. To say someone or something is descriminating or is a hate crime then you must know that persons thoughts.....so to make these things illegal means you are making thoughts illegal which is totally against freedom and the constitution! By the way, it doesn't matter what some judge says or some court decision (they can be over turned anyways) the only thing that matters is the constitution and the freedoms it protects....not what some judge say..... I know its hard to believe but they can be wrong. We are to have freedom of speech. Labeling something as hate speech and banning it, no matter what some court case or judge says, means you no longer have freedom of speech we are supposed to have under the constitution. Its like putting an animal in a cage and saying, "your free! your free!" Then when someone says that the animal is in the cage you say, "he's still free! (he's free to go anywhere in the cage) He's free, the cage is for the greater good." Its pretty obvious the animal is not free! Hate crimes and descrimination is an attempt of the government to control thoughts!

Haven't read the article but from the sound of it the girly magazine was complete crap...they normally are. On the other hand here is a pretty good book about girls written by a guy with a scientific type approach. They did tons of scientific surveys and things and its pretty interesting. In this situation what it comes down to is mean show thier love by providing through things like work and paying for things. The vast majority of woman would rather have thier men working a job that makes the man happy, have more time with the man, and not be financial secure than have financial security and the man work a job he doesn't like and not have as much time with the man. For sex, all you really need to do is let them know you are thinking about them. What turns women on is the feeling of closeness and they feel that when you let them know you are thinking about them. Like a little text about how you were thinking about how hot she is and can't wait to get home to her after work. Or when leaving for work leave a note on her car saying how much you love her, etc. It actually take very little. When you are dating before marraige we do similar things all the time but when men get married they stop "pursuing" the girl which it is the pursuit that lets her know we care. We get married and we think we are done. That makes them feel insecure and unloved. It doesn't take changing you whole house to look a certain way all it takes are little things here or there that let them know you think about them and love them (a lot less money and effort). Its completely different than what men want or even thinks makes sense but it works. Men = logic (The man doesn't do bad things and provides for her etc.) Women = emotion (He thinks about skydiving all the time like he likes them more than me and when he says he loves me he doesn't say it like he really means it etc.) http://www.formenonlybook.com/BooksStudies/ForMenOnly/tabid/138/Default.aspx

Welcome to "change." Why are you implying this has anything to do with Obama? That's just silly. Because its the same policies that got california into the situation they are now that the federal government, under obama, is currently implimenting. Its pretty clear.

Good point....you go me on that one!

You obviously don't know the history of these guys....even though they went over it alittle before the jump. They have been playing bigger and bigger pranks on eachother forever. It goes back and forth and they are always good friends about it. Did you know about the million dollar basketball shot or the will you marry me question at the ballgame....it goes back way further than that even. They both find it funny or they wouldn't continue thier pranks on eachother. How rediculous is that that you are offended and find it wrong to prank someone when even the one pranked finds it funny. Its just like all the white people feeling offended for mexicans and blacks and american indians when even they aren't "offended".....like trying to ban all football teams with indian names or mascots because it was offensive to indians....and the indians protested the ban!

Do you have a specific example? /Marg Take you pick of any current day dictator...... How about the guy that came up with marxism (who its named after). Look at the millions that died under such leaders. Do you really not know history or even current events well enough that I have to provide you with specific examples? -Just to give you a little help with one example of so many .....ever heard of the nationalist-socialist party? Do you know what there "popular" name is?

Am I reading you correctly, are saying that socialism and Marxism are paths to greater freedom than capitalism and a free market economy? NO!!!! They need to come down as they are walls between us and freedom. If you take them down then you can have freedom!

The walls of socialism and marxism need to come down to make the way for freedom!

Let me help everyone out real quick: Ion01- You need to stop your fear mongering! You are just a racist that is against our black president. Quit using sites that are just an arm of the GOP! You just want everyone to die quickly! I just wanted to save some people some time so they won't have to type all that....I just did it for you.

I think thats a pretty good choice. I have a sabre1 loaded at 1:1 and it is awesome. Easiest landings I have ever done and is responsive and fast for a beginner. I got to talking to the video flyer where I jump about how he was flying and some of the things he was doing so I could get some tips on how to learn more about flying and my canopy. I was impressed to find he jumps a sabre1 at 1.1 loading but with his experience the way he flies it makes it look like it must be smaller and more high performance. Its how you fly it that really matters not that its small and hp.

Its true.... Cats are the spawn of Satan... Good on you not letting him reproduce. So true! I am allergic to cats and they know it. My neighbors cat used to follow my car home and wait for me to get out or he would be at the back door when I would have to take the trash out or hide in the bushes and try to rush in the house when I opened the door! I swear he was trying to kill me! Even worse is this went on for 2 months and my wife hardly believed me because she never saw the cat! Its a conspirousy! On another note I have a sugarglider named toggles! The original wingsuit flyers!

First, make sure you never use any facts just make unfounded attacks. That is the best method to use in a debate???? Second, who are the real fear mongers: The ones saying we are destroying the planet and only have a few years left to stop its ultimate destruction? The ones who say that H1N1 has been and is a pandemic and we have to be vaccinated immediately or society may collapse due to everyone being out of work sick? Or the ones who say that millions are dying in the streets because they don't have healthcare and we must do something now and those who want to fix the system instead of abolishing it just want you to die quickly? Or the ones that say we don't have time to read bills and we must bailout huge companies 3 times so we must do something now no matter what it is or the economy will collapse and millions will starve to death? Etc, Etc.....(I could keep going but I am tired of typing) On the other hand you think the fear mongers are the ones that say all the above is not true and they are just using these things as excuses to gain more power. Wow! Now that is true fear mongering.

Correct, and when they become effiecent and cheap people will use them. Government regulation can not make things efficient and cheap.

So the increase in temperatures global has been happening at an exponetial rate despite even the IPCC admissions? So as temperature increases the atmosphere reflects heat back towards the earth more so it doesn't radiate back into space despite the 20 years of data showing thats not what happens? So CO2 is one of the largest contributors to global warming despite the fact it is the smallest? So the poles are melting due to warming despite the observations that the poles are colder and has increased in some areas where as others they are simply ablating? So polar bears are drowning and going extinct despite the observations that we have more polars bears today and the few recorded locations of drowning are on "mainland" areas and not due to melting of ice? So we have had more and worse weather currently due to warming despite the records showing it cycles and has been much worse in the past? Talk about missing the point. First, leveling off emission only works if there wasn't a natural cycle in the first place. Explain why, if man is the cause, did the roman and midevil warming happen before industrialization? Second, after we spend Trillions of dollars and put millions out of work as a result and don't allow 3rd world countries to advance and make 1st rate countries like ours take huge steps backwards to reduce emissions by (I will make it huge even though knowone believes this huge amound is even possible) 1/4 then it would take 90 years to change the temperature by one degree! So rather than save millions of live by extending our technological advances to those that need it we will take these advances from those that already had it so even more die so we can have a degree over 90 years? This is evidenced by the fact that as a countries co2 emissions go up so does thier life expectancy and thier child mortality rate drops! How is that an acceptable trade-off despite the fact that there are natural cycles like the cooling cycle we are in now that is not being accounted for and we can't control. Do you not even realize that mankind flourished the most during warming periods as there was more farmland due to warmer temps so less people starved! You would rather go through all that trouble so people can starve due to less farm land and colder temperatures which also require them to burn more to generate heat so they don't freeze to death? Well, I just take your word for it then.....???? Even the IPCC realizes that the oceans absorb CO2. Do your own research. Look on google about NASA and thier search for the missing CO2 or simply go to spaceweather.com and see how many protons are hitting our upper atmosphere and and read some research into how that effects the gasses of the atmosphere or what effect the Ionosphere (an ion is a charged particle) does and why its there in the first place. In addition, all these predictions and temperature changes require that the sun not vary in temperature. In addition, Temperatures are also effected by solar flares and even the (what NASA calls) flux tube (birkeland current) which is a stream of charged particles flowing between the earth and the sun. Non-of this is accounted for in the IPCC models or predictions which is why their predictions have not followed observations in addition to the fact that thier models require the heat input to the earth to be constant! http://seoblackhat.com/images/co2-vs-temp.jpg So how are carbon levels rising and dropping without human influence? How are carbon levels dropping period? http://www.uigi.com/Temperature_swings_11000_yrs.jpg As you can see it has been much warmer in the past without industrialization. And why did temperatures rise and drop? Also, all because temperature and carbon corrilates does not mean that one causes the other. In 1988, for example, the EPA demanded that the Departments of Energy and Defense clean up 17 of their weapons plants which were leaking radioactive and toxic chemicals -- enough contamination to cost $100 billion in clean-up costs over 50 years! The EPA was simply ignored. No bureaucrats went to jail or were sued for damages. Government departments have sovereign immunity. In 1984, a Utah court ruled that the U.S. military was negligent in its nuclear testing, causing serious health problems (e.g. death) for the people exposed to radioactive fallout. The Court of Appeals dismissed the claims of the victims, because government employees have sovereign immunity. Hooker Chemical begged the Niagara Falls School Board not to excavate the land where Hooker had safely stored toxic chemical waste. The school board ignored these warnings and taxpayers had to foot a $30 million relocation bill when health problems arose. The EPA filed suit, not against the reckless school board, but against Hooker Chemical! Government officials have sovereign immunity. What I have already showed, repeated, and additional information showing how the government is worse is completely nullified? The fact that industry is cleaner than government means nothing?

As for all this cleaning the environment I am all for taking care of the planet but lets look at a couple of things. First according to the numbers that IPCC has produced (many of which have been falsified by actual observations) we would have to completely stop emiting CO2 for 30 years in order to reduce global temperatures by 1 degree! In addition they have finally admitted we have been in a cooling trend for 10 years and it may continue for as long as 20 or 30 years. Also, we never even reached the temps of the roman or midievil warming periods. The observations are actually showing that CO2 may be the cleanest emission as the charged particles we recieve from the sun and the oceans regulate CO2 and reduce the amount in the atmosphere in cycles. Look at some charts over the past few thousand years. Notice how carbon goes down! Thats why! In addition, who is the real polluter: business or government? Our government, at the federal, state, and local levels, is the single greatest polluter in the land. In addition, our government doesn't even clean up its own garbage! In 1988, for example, the EPA demanded that the Departments of Energy and Defense clean up 17 of their weapons plants which were leaking radioactive and toxic chemicals -- enough contamination to cost $100 billion in clean-up costs over 50 years! The EPA was simply ignored. No bureaucrats went to jail or were sued for damages. In fact, the amount it would cost to clean up the governments polution would cost more than cleaning up all the polution of all businesses in the US combined! So if we really want to clean up things then we need to get the government out not in!

This is what obama said: "When I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, you know, under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I'm capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4 His plan is for the oil and gas rates to skyrocket forcing you to use companies that are in bed with the government such as the company he travels to in order to sign bills in front of (they manufacture solar panels). Or so you will have to turn to GE. What do you think the Green Job Czar is all about. Cap and trade taxes the carbon emissions of all businesses forcing the prices of oil and gas higher forcing us to find alternatives. Keep in mind these alternatives have been around for a long time but they are not cost effective so people don't use them. Well, he is going to make them cost effective by forcing the prices of oil and gas high. The reality is that gasoline for your car is taxed at an average of 40% total in most states so government is already heavily invovled in the price and profit so who is really greedy here anyways? The oil and gas companies and not GE who is in bed with the government in order to gain a monopoly through government regulation? Why is it that if a business who employees millions makes money they are evil and greedy but when the government makes millions by taxing the businesses and people loose jobs as a result why are the government officials not greedy? When you give the oil companies money you get something in exchange whereas the government takes your money and you get nothing!

Q-So how much does that house cost? A- 160,000 to 1.5 million Get real. Their just making up numbers! How do you even quantify "saved jobs" anyways? If you go with that train of thought you could claim the wars have actually saved 1.5 million people's lives! Why hasn't the media, or anybody for that matter, been all over obama for making the rediculous claim that unemployment wouldn't go over 8% yet we are almost at 10%! And now this?

A clip that illustrates the differences: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3aiIKQvDr4

I think the real issue is why are so many people wanting to downsize? I think it is driven by two things. 1. Its "cool" to have a high wing loading number/ small canopy. 2. They want increased performance and think that comes from a smaller canopy. They don't realize that performance comes largely from the pilots ability and the design of the chute. If you want a canopy that reacts faster and more dramatically to your inputs then get one with ZP material. This is a HUGE upgrade from student gear. Want more? get lines that don't stretch. Want more? get a slightly elliptical. Want more? Get a fully elliptical. This, doesn't even include the different designs that produce different performance such as a 27 cell design that allows for higher speeds, increased performance and reaction, all with and due to increased surface area..... not a high wing loading.

Hell yeah.. That worked really well for humans for millenia in antiquity.... with the help of the tribal shaman or witch doctor. Now there is a good solid "conservative" idea you can really get behind. So our current doctors are witch doctors? That is not even a real comparison. To imply that freedom means going back to witch doctors is rediculous.....as if the knowledge or technology would suddenly disappear?