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For the newer jumpers, that movie is comedy. For some of us from the old days, it's just nostagia. I mean, what's the big deal about taking a drag on the way to altitude? We always kept duct tape in the plane. I remember people living in the wrecked Twin Beech fuselage at Perris, and the remnants of 817 & 57U next to the parking lot. Some of us at the annual California Aerial Circus party got to see the original "Proof" a college movie project which contained only the FJC. No one knew what to expect. We were laughing so hard I though someone would die! If you haven't seen Fandango, watch it for the first time in a room full of only jumpers. Blue Skies! Harry Leicher FB 1574 "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Or when you go to the "Star Trek" movie that had Kirk climbing the side of El Cap and falling off. The BASE jumpers in the audience are going "That's not what it looks like" and the people in front of you are saying "shut up, how would you know?" "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Another one heard in the old days on Southwest. "I know there may be 90 ways to leave your lover, but there are only 6 ways out of this airplane. If you value your life -- listen up!" "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Quote , and move to Perris or Elsinore. Bring back skybabes from Cali ! (if you come back) I left the midwest in January 1973. Didn't come back. Married a local skydiver. "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

The north landing area was pretty empty. I landed there on all four of our jumps, and Tim had me back to the packing area before most of the people who landed on the grass were able to walk across. "Harry -- Why did you land all the way out there? Hardly anybody else did." Your second sentence answered the question, As the proverb goes -- long walk better than short stretcher ride. Blue Skies! Harry P.S. -- It's OK to tip the drive of the pick up truck. "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

The skull and crossbones on top of the hanger (before it got painted orange) at Coolidge were a good reference for altitude. When you could just see the gaps in the teeth... "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Maybe I'll run into you at Elsinore, I'll be at Perris tomorrow. I go from one to the other. When Perris was run by the Perris Valley Skydiving Society in the 80's, I was the treasurer, but was flying one of the 182's at Elsinore! Blue Skies! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Howdy, From one old "Rainbow Raider" to another. You didn't register with your name. How can I check to see if it's in my logbook? Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Keely- Thanks What a trip down memory lane. That song came out just as I was graduating form Northwestern U. I'd been jumping for three years by then. When my mother found out that I made my first jump, her comment was "I'm glad you finally went and did it and got it out of your system." In January 1973 the DZ at Franklin WI was frozen over, and whatever could fit in or on top of my Pinto Station Wagon headed for California and Elsinore. Best move I ever made! Thanks again. Blue Skies! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

In this sport, getting old is something to be proud of!!!!!! Blue Skies! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

nude? "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

If you really want to know -- from the California Department of Consumer Affairs Websire: As long as a family member is involved -- go for it. Harry ++++++++ In California, you may choose any of the following methods of disposition of cremated remains: Placement in a columbarium or mausoleum - There may be additional charges for endowment care, opening or closing, recording, flower vase, and nameplate Burial in a plot in a cemetery - There may be additional charges for endowment care, opening or closing, recording, outer burial container, flower vase, and marker Retention at a residence - The funeral establishment or crematory will have you sign the Permit for Disposition showing that the remains were released to you and will file it with the local registrar of births and deaths. You may not remove the cremated remains from the container and you must arrange for their disposition upon your death Storing in a house of worship or religious shrine if local zoning laws allow Scattering in areas of the state where no local prohibition exists and with written permission of the property owner or governing agency. The cremated remains must be removed from the container and scattered in a manner so they are not distinguishable to the public Scattering in a cemetery scattering garden; or Scattering at sea, at least 500 yards from shore (this also includes inland navigable waters, except for lakes and streams) Cremated remains may not be transported without a permit from the county health department and they may not be disposed of in refuse. Scattering Cremated remains may be scattered as described above by a licensed cemetery, cemetery broker, crematory, registered cremated remains disposer, funeral establishment staff member, or the family. All cremated remains must be removed from the container for scattering. Avoid inhalation of the dust from the cremated remains, since there may be health risks. "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

I'll bring my photo album. I still have my first cheapo in my garage. Checked the date of manufacture and lost a bet with Janna. She is 3 months older! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

I've got a pretty complete set of Parachutist going back to 1971. I'll put that year in my gearbag and bring it out if it's clear next Sunday (1/16/05) It's supposed to clear Wednesday. I hope, I hope. Blue Skies! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

I usually land way out. On Purpose. Tim at Perris usually has the truck out to me before I get to daisy chain the lines, and I get back to the packing area before a lot of people who landed on the grass! At Elsinore I usually have to walk, but at least I'm able to! Somebody asked "Whey did you land out there? Nobody else did." The second sentence answered the question. "Long walk better than short ambulance ride" Blue Skies! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

got it down to average error 1 mile, 278 seconds. "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Nick- I can't wait until people buy that property and find out why it's often called "Lake Smell some more." It's fun watching the paths the jet skis make through the algae in the lake, and seeing that the trail is still there when you go up on the next load! I remember my first paying job as a jump pilot. You were the JM for a static line student and had to "short line" him as he did a back loop off the step. Blue Skies! Harry Leicher "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Skydivers ARE my family! "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

When you look up and see a malfunction, do you say: ITLLCLR CHOP IT or RYDITIN Blue Skies! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Where's Squishy? "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

I still have some of the bookkeeping stuff in my garage! Are you going to make it to Old Farts next month? Blue Skies! Harry Leicher Treasurer, PVSS "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Per SIM 7(E)(3) Minimum landing areas for PRO Rating holders: a. For PRO Rating holders, there should be no less than 5,000 square feet of landing area per four jumpers. That works out to about 70 X 70 feet Table 7.A defines a level 2 landing area: 2. Allows jumpers to fly under canopy no lower than 50 feet above the crowd and land no closer than 15 feet from the crowd line When the rating originated, the only canopies out there were pretty docile and could easily sink in under half brakes, so it wasn't an issue. I've suggested the following change: 1. Rather than the 10 meter circle, set up a square area 70 X 70 feet. Place 10 foot poles around the border, with either crepe paper or crowd control tape between them. 2. a 15 foot border is marked off inside the square, giving a landing area of 40 X 40 feet 3. The jumper has to have a weight suspended 10 feet below the feet. 4. Maximum ground winds 5 kts. (sometimes demos happen on days with NO wind.) 5. The jumper and the suspended weight have to clear the tape 10 feet above the perimeter of the square, (this is only 20 feet instead of 50, but it gives you the idea)and the jumper has to land and remain within the 40 X 40 square. 6. The final of the 10 jumps has to be witnessed by an S & TA, IE, or FAI judge OTHER than the one(s) who witnessed the first 9. This more closely resembles an actual demo than the 10 meter circle. Yes, this might be a hassle, but so is the fall out from a demo gone bad. No, it won't guarantee that nothing will go wrong, but it might make more people realize what they are getting into on a Level 2 jump. If someone wants to swoop an open field demo, that can be done with less danger to the crowd, and the PRO rating is not an issue. More comments? Blue Skies! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

Per SIM 7(E)(3) Minimum landing areas for PRO Rating holders: a. For PRO Rating holders, there should be no less than 5,000 square feet of landing area per four jumpers. That works out to about 70 X 70 feet Table 7.A defines a level 2 landing area: 2. Allows jumpers to fly under canopy no lower than 50 feet above the crowd and land no closer than 15 feet from the crowd line When the rating originated, the only canopies out there were pretty docile and could easily sink in under half brakes, so it wasn't an issue. I've suggested the following change: 1. Rather than the 10 meter circle, set up a square area 70 X 70 feet. Place 10 foot poles around the border, with either crepe paper or crowd control tape between them. 2. a 15 foot border is marked off inside the square, giving a landing area of 40 X 40 feet 3. The jumper has to have a weight suspended 10 feet below the feet. 4. Maximum ground winds 5 kts. (sometimes demos happen on days with NO wind.) 5. The jumper and the suspended weight have to clear the tape 10 feet above the perimeter of the square, (this is only 20 feet instead of 50, but it gives you the idea)and the jumper has to land and remain within the 40 X 40 square. 6. The final of the 10 jumps has to be witnessed by an S & TA, IE, or FAI judge OTHER than the one(s) who witnessed the first 9. This more closely resembles an actual demo than the 10 meter circle. Yes, this might be a hassle, but so is the fall out from a demo gone bad. No, it won't guarantee that nothing will go wrong, but it might make more people realize what they are getting into on a Level 2 jump. If someone wants to swoop an open field demo, that can be done with less danger to the crowd, and the PRO rating is not an issue. More comments? Blue Skies! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

"Where's Squishy?" "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."

You might order a book called "The Man Who Rode the Thunder" by William H. Rankin. It's available from Amazon.com, maybe you can get it at a library. Blue Skies! Harry "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question."