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No ones complaining. So what's really going on?

So why is a college freshman who read Marx and did his first bong-hit marked for death?

> I assume you mean that killing does work. Yes >Right. But that's an example of killing _not_ working. We've killed more than anyone else in Iraq; hasn't gotten us a secure government yet. I meant it's working for the insurgents. >Ah, but the THREAT of killing is what works there. It's what kept us alive during the Cold War, and it's why militaries are a good deterrent. Agreed >Had Israel ignored them, they would now _be_ on the decline. Keep in mind that this war was started by the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers. Since then the actions of both sides have led to the deaths of hundreds. Also agreed .

Now that's an interesting thought. But who should decide that the wall should come down and it should be one country again? What if Israel resists the idea? Should we resort to war to force them to comply? Will the Palestinians accept a shared land? Unfortunately I would disagree with you that killing does in fact work. It's why we are unable to establish a secure government in Iraq. It's the threat of killing that keeps economically insignificant countries like North Korea part of global politics. For Hezbolah it's put them back into the center of politics in Lebanon during a time when their influence should be on the decline.

From the NY Times editorial "A Hard Look at Haditha", June 4th, 2006: "The apparent cold-blooded killing last November of 24 Iraqi civilians by United States marines at Haditha will be hard to dispose of with another Washington damage control operation. The Iraqi government has made clear that it will not sit still for one, and neither should the American people. This affair cannot simply be dismissed as the spontaneous cruelty of a few bad men." emphasis mine http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/opinion/04sun1.html?ex=1307073600&en=dce19d44a0f3226e&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

What was the argument?

THINK You mean, like simply quoting someone?

I promise to ignore Bill O'Reilly if you promise to ignore Micheal Moore. I'll even raise you one Ann Coulter for one Barbara Steisand or Dennis Kucinich, your choice.

Now that's an interesting approach. I would have assumed that oil companies would have paid for their own cleanups, but the more interesting argument is costs like a war to preserve access to oil. How would those costs be allocated? Who would decide upon the allocation methodology? What about foreign companies (BP, TotalFinaElf...)? Shouldn't we vote for oil companies at the pump and wars at the ballot box?

I stand humbly corrected. On a happier note: Forums: Search Results Your search for boobies returned 14139 results in 0.598s.

Um, Bill, 9 out of 68 posts that reference "Clinton" and "Blowjob" are yours (just over 13%). No one else comes close. You really should give the poor guy a break!

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July 1st, 4,001,238,087 AD. Sun will run out of hydrogen and go nova. Going to be a bad day. http://business.gorge.net/zdkf/korey/kic-sntl.html Never hurts to plan ahead

Ok, but shouldn't you post yours ? www.myspace.com/jumppackrepeat

Very true...and you'd never get the stains off the walls or the carpeting.

But what are you going to do when the day comes that you run into an empty beer keg that can't be reasoned with?

An amusing, if unscientific test (actually performed) Sig 9MM - bounces off empty beer keg. Hardly a dent Colt 45 ACP - bounces off empty beer keg, bigger dent Desert Eagle 44 Magnum - breaches both sides of empty keg, puts large hole in brick wall behind it. As a side note, using hydra-shock loads in the Colt did take the back half off of a large metropolitan phone book however. Dont try this at home until you've polished off the keg

It's hard to concentrate on sound fiscal policy when you find yourself facing killer bunnies: http://www.newsoftheodd.com/article1021.html Ah, the good 'ole days...double digit interest rates, rampant inflation, and killer rabbits.

You are being sarcastic I assume...you do know what the consequences were for not voting/not voting for Saddam under his rule? Right or wrong on the whole issue of the war, a 75% turnout under the threat of violence seems a rather remarkable figure.

You can add at least two more hikes to your graphic...the markets are pricing in an almost 100% certainty of another 50bps in hikes. The Fed would almost certainly like to err on the side of overshooting a neutral rate. Nonetheless, rates, especially long term rates, remain at fairly historic lows.

Thanks. I thought I would save us all the time. But I was speaking tongue-in-cheek, so to speak as we seem to keep having the same discussion over and over. The thread titles change, but the characters and discussions remain the same... We will probably not have the complete picture of the failures in pre-war intelligence for another 30 years when documents are de-classified and the story can be pieced together. My guess is that the truth lies somewhere in the middle and fault, where it exists, will be traced back across many departments and several administrations. Your reference cleary illustrates that an administration is capable of bending intelligence (or outright lying). I'm still waiting to pass judgement on the current administration until clear evidence arises that that is the case here.

Was it the Clinton administration citing intelligence of a chemical weapons facility in Sudan in order to launch a cruise missle attack against an aspirin factory during the Lewinsky thing-a-ma-bob?

Speaking of shoving a lit firecracker up your ass... http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/buttrocket.html Um, I'm thinking that had to hurt. NSFW, and certainly not safe at home...

It depends on which end of the firing squad

I agree with you that 'talking one way' and 'acting another' play poorly in the international community, but this seems like another classic example of media jumping all over a story because of its perceived 'gotcha' quality. I'm hardly a military expert, but it seems extraordinary to compare illumination rounds, used opportunistically in Fallujah because of their incendiary characteristics with mustard gas and nerve agents (which Saddam used against the Kurds and Iranians). Soil samples from Halabja collected after the 1988 attack included traces of mustard gas and Sarin. I think the comparison to wp falls flat, not even taking account that those weapons were intentionally directed at civillians. As a side note, incendiary weapons (including wp used as a weapon) are governed under Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons (Geneva, 1980) to which the US is not a signatory.