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There's absolutely no way you're that naive. Me thinks it's just a ploy to gain attention. Judging by your post numbers, you don't do a lot of work. I saw your picture in one of your many threads with your big truck that just screamed "Masculine" And now you don't know what cluster f**k means....STOP IT. Your leading some to think your attention starved. Are you? You don't even sky dive and you troll here? For what, really?

I never thought of that. Sounds plausible though.

Even if this report comes from VP Joe Biden??

No Joke Paul. I merely added that remark to attempt to add some validity to CNN's reporting. No other reason. Nice side-step though. Beats having to say "Maybe you were right Richard??"

Check my last post for added URL. There's also LIVE footage of bombing going on, Israel firing missiles into the West bank, Gaza Strip. Israelis are cheering the attacks. Sad Day.

You do watch CNN, right? They're putting on all kinds of military pros, and info on the BUK missle systems as well as threats to use it by two different military factions. SOURCE: U.S. Concludes: Plane Was Shot Down. CH. 202, right now. Go Here

So I'm clear, you set your brakes "just after landing" Yet you state that you check them every couple of jumps? So I'm left to believe when you re-pack you unstow your toggles, then untwist your brake lines, and reset your toggles in the risers after untwisting the brake lines? I do the same thing, how ever I check mine each and every jump. The alternative just ain't worth it.

Best airport in the world to get drunk at, if your of the mind to do it. I've flown out of Skiphol a jillion times, really nice air port.

Just going off of current data, and info currently being reported that the plane was indeed shot down, Paul, you were saying???? Don't be so quick to judge, it just causes one to craw fish later. I still love ya man!

IMHO. It is my personal belief that is what happened. How's that for a disclaimer?

These are YOUR problems. Not ours. Please take care of this your self and stop crying about it in these forums. I get it, he's a no good so and so, but he's YOUR no good so and so. "Get er done" and handle it.

I just did a GOOGLE search on this cat. I never heard of him until now, but I learned a great deal about him and where he's been. "Lopullterri" it is bad form for you to pitt skydivers against any one individual(s), no matter what they've allegedly done just to further your own agenda(s). So please seek your remedies elsewhere. Find him yourself, by yourself or some one in your employ. Just MOHO.

Not A Mystery Anymore Bad thing is pieces of the wreckage fell into urban areas, and people are jerking the wreckage around, thus contaminating the "Crime Scene" And of course, no one knows anything. Plane was obviously shot down with a SAM. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

Believe me, I'm currently having the same difficulty. I'm flying without it, but I don't subscribe to it. RG

Chuck: I must say I believe your right about this subject. I've always respected your opinion. Take Care: Richard

Hello Chuck: Thanks for the response, I assumed the very thing you brought up. If that's the case, why is everyone ready to lynch someone over the "Alledged" incident that took place involving Rich? I mean, if USPA members Really cared, why don't they get involved instead of coming to these forums whining like 2 year old girls? I don't get it. Shouldn't Parliamentary Procedure should be implemented instead of whining and crying in a sky dive forum, or am I full of it? Best: Richard

I'm calling "Foul" on this statement. If the members of the USPA, of which I am one of them feel so strongly about this incident/topic, call your regional director, attend a meeting. Raise some cane! If my numbers are half-way right, we're some 34K T/ 35K strong. If everyone is sooooo unhappy about this incident and hasn't made any phone calls, or attended a meeting, then stop the whining and crying. Christ sakes. We're the one who put the BOD where they are, they are elected officials, we are their constituents, they represent US. Ask them to do their jobs and we need to stop the complaining, and making rude remarks. C'mon, whuddya say?

Well for goodness sakes! I was just sayin' You don't have to get all huffy.

Yeah......What loudtom said!

Your jump number tell it all.

Generally, if your as big around as you are tall, ah....NO!

Just what boat is Rich Winstock in???? Ya see, that could be the "Love Boat," or The "Black Pearl!" What an ignorant topic IMHO. So quick to persecute, but not interested in finding out the facts, or the truth of the matter. Why don't you just "Stay High?" & "Go Away?" WA,AH.

Yeah we have plenty of neurosurgeons that sky dive. Or NOT.

+1 Thank you for your tireless efforts DSE! Wishing you the best, as always: Richard

You should hit the links! That was great form in your picture! Take care, Have fun! Best- Richard