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I don't know Bolas at all, never met him and probably never will, but his continued concern over potential financial penalties (a minor point of Robin's post) causes me to wonder if he is concerned that he may well be the recipient of such a penalty, or perhaps he just didn't understand the major thrust of Robin's post. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

From a strictly monetary standpoint: Would these fines assessed by the DZ staff go directly to the DZ? If so, the more they fine, the more pure profit they make. On the flip side, if a DZ grounds someone, that's lost revenue. Perhaps the solution is coming up with a system where the DZ itself neither loses or gains by disciplining a jumper. Ex: If a jumper is fined, the jump ticket fine still takes a slot on the next plane going up so if full, one less jumper can go. If someone wanted to calculate an average per slot profit that portion of the fine could go to the DZ and the rest could go towards a canopy education effort. The penalty is not nearly as important as having a set of rules to enforce. As Robin said each DZ can have its own set of penalties and if your DZO has rules that you think unfairly contribute to his profits, you can either lobby him for different penalties or choose a new place to jump. I've been enjoying the posts by people that are truly contributing to making our sport safer and hope that we can keep the focus of the discussion on things that really matter. Let's get some more contributions about what rules need to be developed. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

What is Treejumping? Take your pick of two choices: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treejumping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhbNlrGjUY0 "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

When posting look for something that says Attachment with a button that says Choose File and another button that says Upload File. HINT- look just above the button you have found that says Post Reply. To be blunt if you couldn't figure that out by yourself it makes me wonder about you even more. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

there is this thing called Google... you can use it to search the names. There is lots of info available. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

May not have the info you want, but is this the manual you want? http://www.parachutemanuals.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=39&func=fileinfo&id=177 "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

google search a product called Sssscat. Its a combination spray/motion detector. Some video showing how it works http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7734520936865764382# Search Youtube and you'll find more videos "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Found this http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/WADProfileDashboard.do?parameter=showProfile&orgName=Parachute%20Equipment%20Corp.&orgid=17759 PARACHUTE EQUIPMENT CORP. Address: 461 Brankley Farm Rd., Clarksville, VA 23927-2241 "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

A start: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=35 "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

LOL that would be funny! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Last I heard he was in Vancouver after his real estate licence was revoked in Calgary. http://www.reca.ca/industry/content/publications-resources/news-releases/2009/09-06-24-Mercier.html edit to add link "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Keep in mind that its common practice for inbound call centers to answer the phone based on "called number ID". I used to work in the hotel reservation industry and our call center answered the phones for hundreds of hotels all with "Thank you for calling"... whatever the computer says. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

gotta love google http://www.iqtest.com "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

How about this: http://www.pia.com/committees.htm "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

What's that? Look Here "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

One more place to talk about conspiracies? Have you checked into the Kennedy assignation or the World Trade Towers? "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Already being discussed. Start reading here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4097878#4097878 "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Yup lead is soft, but close reading of the report says its a steel ball. "This looks like a small steel ball, as used in ‘shot bags’" "Picture 6:steel ball" "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

FOD http://tools.emailgarage.com/Pub/Asset.ashx?Id=23c77610-0dde-4a9f-98bc-64da7820cdf0&MessageId=509493423 "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Line twists? "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

My Alti-2 is from the 70's and works great both as an altimeter and as a barometer. When its home, it sits on my kitchen table and I get to see what happens with the air pressure every day. If it didn't go up and down with air pressure that's when I would be worried about it.

Please cite the specific regulation. I found this: --- 65.133 Seal. Each certificated parachute rigger must have a seal with an identifying mark prescribed by the Administrator, and a seal press. After packing a parachute he shall seal the pack with his seal in accordance with the manufacturer's recommendation for that type of parachute. --- "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

I use crayon ! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Are you not afraid of what it will do to the environment? Its plastic! At least lead comes from the earth and we are just returning it to its roots when a lead seal falls to the ground! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Probably not what you are looking for but you can go here: http://krheinwald.jumplog.net/ Click on Jump 2834 and when looking at that jump click on Track 2834, it will open Google Earth You'll get to see when Klaus took off, the flight path of the plane, his path during freefall as well as under canopy... right to where he landed. Paralog is cool ! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy