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That cameraman should not be paying for a beer for a very long time. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

You did very well. Don't worry about it. And don't overthink things. Its a life or death situation. Survival is the priority, and you did. Its easy to second guess after the event. And no two situations are ever the same. Gear can be replaced. If you are in doubt....always chop. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

It was discussed fairly fully while the first trial was in progress. I doubt there is much more to be discovered vis a vis the parachute part of it all, because I doubt there is anything new there... I don't think many were aware the second trial was underway till a couple of days ago. At the moment it seems to be unloading dirty laundry. It would not surprise me to see him walk, seeing the first trial didn't convict him. I don't think the prosecutions case was very well put in the first trial, and I can't see them coming up with anything new or more convincing. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Just bumping this, wondering if there have been any developments regarding a retrial. Any of the UK posters heard anything? My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Friendly or not, that attitude on a DZ often ends in tears....Make your own decision based on logic. Don't be a sheep! My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Practise your PLFs in the meantime, otherwise you prolly will only do it once. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I wonder how big a kickback he's been promised? My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Target fixation. Like a moth to a flame. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Are you saying radios are not used AT ALL? I assume then there must be moveable pointers on the ground as there used to be back in the roundie days pre radio. So, how does the instructor watching stop a confused first jumper flying off into the sunset? A student can go a hell of a long way under a ramair. Its no fun watching them disappear over the horizon..... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Not in the least, no radios at this DZ’s. He landed over a gentle roll in the horizon, where I knew were some pretty good size rocks and boulders. I started walking out about 10 minutes with not seeing any sign from him. I found him sitting down and smarting over a broken humerous. I called the DZ and asked for a car that made its way out a bout an hour later. The AFFI gave a very demeaning speech to all of us before the jump on Sky Van procedures, the fact that we had been jumping it for the three previous days didn’t seem to matter much. This was the first and last time I saw him, a short, cocky, dark haired Australian. Later, when I asked him why he didn’t follow thru with his student, he was all apologies and had his hat in his hands. Knowing then what I know now, I would have made more of an issue. No first jump (or early jump) student should ever be without a radio. Period. I found that out the first and only time I ever put out a student on a ram air canopy when I first introduced squares to students, and that was back in 1987. I do train them to fly without the radio though, in case it doesn't work....the first ones I used were a bit unreliable. For that reason an altimeter became an essential part of student equipment, because I gave them waypoints to follow when they got to certain altitudes, plus an altitude to turn in on final approach. That worked well on the occasional time the radio didn't work. And it meant in most cases, they didn't need a radio after 3 or 4 jumps. It sounds like this DZO and his minions need a swift kick in the nuts..... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

You should be able to exit without flipping, as long as you present your belly to the relative wind. Head up, head down, sideways....it shouldn't matter. So it doesn't really matter much which way you dive. Leaving after the base means you are running towards the tail anyway, so it makes sense to keep going that way. More important is keeping visuals on the base as much as possible, and as they will be behind and below as you exit, its easier if you keep going that way. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Whoosh!!! My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Pulled my 180 (1956) to bits and rebuilt it one time. A lot of the components were original and basically just falling apart. Replaced all of those with new stuff. Not surprising since it was nearly 60 years old at the time. That turned out to be a nightmare job. Never do that again. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

That's a bit personal, isn't it? My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I don't think he had a problem with his ears.... I had to laugh at a comment I saw on another forum. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

LAND FUCKING ELSEWHERE IN THE DIRECTION DECIDED ON THE GROUND. FOR FUCK'S SAKE, PEOPLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LAND IN THE LANDING AREA ALL THE TIME. First rule of skydiving: Land safely. Wherever that happens to be is pretty secondary in the big scheme of things. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

This is very BAD advice. I hope you misheard, rather than he misspoke. If you're in a biplane situation, with the main canopy in front, chopping the main canopy will send your lines and risers back into the lines of your reserve. This has a good chance of causing an entanglement of the two canopies. The best option is to release the brakes and steer the front canopy. As it turns, its trailing edge will push on the nose of the trailing canopy, making it turn also. I've done CRW biplanes where we spiraled like mad. The biplane stayed stable the whole time. Look, no one wants to have two canopies out at once (although it's better than NO canopies out), but if you have a stable biplane, just fly it. Don't chop it. Landing biplanes has a high success rate. Chopping them doesn't. Quite agree. If 100 people with biplanes just chop, a good number of them will end up very, very dead! Next time you see him, ask him to explain what will happen if one canopy has gone between the lines of the other during deployment (quite likely if an AAD fire coincides with main pitch) and the jumper chops the main. His answer should be along the lines of attending a funeral in the next week or so! My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Not sure if that is true at all. As far as I know very little meaningful testing has been done with this scenario anywhere, and I'm sure chopping every time is not necessarily the best way to deal with it. RSLs play a part in this, they need to be disconnected before a chop. There are a lot of variables, and like many problems, what is successful one day, may very well kill you the next. You will always get a variety of opinions and answers, there simply is no right or wrong answer. I've seen a student land a biplane, they picked up both sets of toggles and steered both canopies together, which I thought was quite a good way to deal with a two out that has biplaned, but I would not go so far as to say that is the perfect solution. Like has been said, every scenario has to be dealt with on its merits. Logically, if you have a stable situation, and you have to steer, you need to first make sure your RSL is disconnected (in case you need to chop if it turns sour) then be VERY gentle with inputs to steer. Doing nothing is an option, at least you have plenty of fabric over you and shouldn't land too hard. I wouldn't be worried too much about making the DZ if there is clear ground underneath you. Staying calm will aid your chance of survival. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

5K is plenty altitude to get a decent track in. As has been said, you don't need to stage the breakoff, At breakoff everyone needs to track like hell. Bigger formations will prolly mean staging breakoff, but not necessary for 10 - 12 ways. During the track it is NOT the time to be looking for an altimeter. You need to be scanning for other jumpers, and avoiding when necessary. If you know you are at 5 K on breakoff (which you should be if your base man is diligent with breakoff), then all you need to do is count to yourself, as you track, if you get to 10, its time to wave off and dump. That should have you activating at 3K. It should not be necessary to track that long if you know and trust your fellow jumpers. This is why you need to be careful if there are rookies on the load. Pre jump briefings and jumper discipline is really important. Plan the jump and jump the plan. Anyone who doesn't, needs to be axed. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Well plenty of aircrew in WW2 managed it, so yes it is possible. Their training would have been pretty limited. I'm sure quite a few didn't manage it either, even with training. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Fill a rucksack with wallets??? My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

And if you are over the Atlantic or Pacific ocean, or over the North or South Pole, or somewhere over the Himalayas, and have managed to find yourself alive under an open canopy, you have a few new problems on your plate. ETA: The explosive decompression at 40 grand would incapacitate everyone pretty instantly anyway... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Two of my Uncles never came home, and were never found. I did find another two buried in Italy and Belgium. Another who was also an airman survived, but was captured, and spent 3.5 years as a POW, and according to my mother, came home as a walking skeleton, having survived the infamous death march from Eastern Europe, as the Germans withdrew ahead of the Russian army. I met him once...he was a skeleton with skin, muscles wasted away during internment. Another striking feature of the cemeteries (of both sides) was how young these men were, late teens, early 20s most of them. Never even lived, poor buggers. What a colossal waste. And for what? My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I've visited many of the WW2 battlefields and war cemeteries, looking for the resting places of several of my older relatives who did not make it home. What is striking about the cemeteries, is the number of graves marked " An unknown soldier of WW1 or WW2" where bodies were recovered but could not be identified. There are also servicemen (particularly airmen) buried in various village and town cemeteries throughout Europe, although wherever possible, a lot of these were disinterred after the war and reburied in designated war cemeteries. It is possible these two airmen are amongst these "unknowns", and may not have been victims of a war crime. Just an afterthought.... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

At 30 mph wind speed, that would give openings at about 1000 feet and 3000 feet respectively. In the chaos of events, that sounds fairly realistic to me. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....