gregpso 1 #76 April 1, 2012 I am starting to warm to you Mr Squeak. LOLI tend to be a bit different. enjoyed my time in the sport or is it an industry these days ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #77 April 1, 2012 Quote Who gives a fuck if you can call yourself a skydiver or not... its not an elite group its a fucking hobby! (yeah, to a tourist) call yourself whatever you want. skydivers are no better than the next guy. (depends who you're standing next to ) You don't see people that make model airplanes arguing (I don't see people that make model airplanes PERIOD )about what they can call themselves (how many planes theyve made before they're not tourists) For fucks sake people GET OVER YOURSELVES!!! (geeze n00b, lighten up...gonna give yourself a rash!) You are absolutely right, nobody cares what YOU call yourself...ya tourist! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #78 April 1, 2012 QuoteI am starting to warm to you Mr Squeak. LOL Please dont, Ill likely never jump with you, nor socialise with you, and apart from common courtesy, Ill probably never really speak to you. Based on your postings on SS and the way that you portray yourself I would see you as an overall negative to the skydiving community. Judging by the responses from the eastern jumpers I seem to be not alone in that assessment.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gregpso 1 #79 April 2, 2012 ouch !!I tend to be a bit different. enjoyed my time in the sport or is it an industry these days ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gregpso 1 #80 April 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteI am starting to warm to you Mr Squeak. LOL Please dont, Ill likely never jump with you, nor socialise with you, and apart from common courtesy, Ill probably never really speak to you. Based on your postings on SS and the way that you portray yourself I would see you as an overall negative to the skydiving community. Judging by the responses from the eastern jumpers I seem to be not alone in that assessment. Double OUCH !!! What about all the positives (Not that I can think of anything at present.) Any chance of letting bygones be bygones (I didn "T think so) I will take "common courtesy" thats a lot more than others would do. This sounds weird and you will not believe me but in real life I am not like greg demon. Indeed on SS I never personally abused any one. I did disagree and make some out there posts and some stupid remarks I did make some comments about a drop zone but did not personally abuse. Like I have said before the skydiving experience I had was positive (and I promote jumping to all I meet and work with.. at least 10 tandem jumpers I have sent to naggas) and 80 per cent of people I met were excellent. ( I was annoyed I got banned from AFF just for some dumb posts. My log book on my 5 AFF jumps all contain good comments from instructors.. but banned thats a little hard to live with at least for an idiot like me. ) I tried to be entertaining on SS but due to my lack of show business skills it went horribly wrong. How many times do I have to say sorry but I will say it again "sorry" (if there is anything I can say or do let me know!!) I realise I am one line stow short of a free bag. OLIVE BRANCH EXTENDED and offered !!I tend to be a bit different. enjoyed my time in the sport or is it an industry these days ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #81 April 2, 2012 Quote Quote Who gives a fuck if you can call yourself a skydiver or not... its not an elite group its a fucking hobby! (yeah, to a tourist) call yourself whatever you want. skydivers are no better than the next guy. (depends who you're standing next to ) You don't see people that make model airplanes arguing (I don't see people that make model airplanes PERIOD )about what they can call themselves (how many planes theyve made before they're not tourists) For fucks sake people GET OVER YOURSELVES!!! (geeze n00b, lighten up...gonna give yourself a rash!) You are absolutely right, nobody cares what YOU call yourself...ya tourist! Whatever you do don't ask someone to call you a ambulance["Your a ambulance"Ifyou need a a ambulance someone will call one.One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fossg 0 #82 April 2, 2012 If you are friendly , respectful, an approachable, people will warm up to you. If you act like you write.... Thats.a different story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #83 April 2, 2012 I'm FAR too lazy right now to read through all of these posts, but here's my answer: Ten years. I don't care HOW many jumps you make in HOW short a time or HOW many medals you have, if you quit before ten years in the sport then you are a tourist. Chuck 31 years in the sport, so definitely not a tourist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #84 April 2, 2012 Whatever you do don't ask someone to call you a ambulance["Your a ambulance"If you need a a ambulance someone will call one. ...don't call me Shirley! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #85 April 2, 2012 Quote I'm FAR too lazy right now to read through all of these posts, but here's my answer: Ten years. I don't care HOW many jumps you make in HOW short a time or HOW many medals you have, if you quit before ten years in the sport then you are a tourist. Chuck 31 years in the sport, so definitely not a tourist Fuck off, old man!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #86 April 2, 2012 Quote Quote I'm FAR too lazy right now to read through all of these posts, but here's my answer: Ten years. I don't care HOW many jumps you make in HOW short a time or HOW many medals you have, if you quit before ten years in the sport then you are a tourist. Chuck 31 years in the sport, so definitely not a tourist Fuck off, old man! YEAH...You tell him! ...wait...WHAT?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #87 April 2, 2012 Quote Whatever you do don't ask someone to call you a ambulance["Your a ambulance"If you need a a ambulance someone will call one. ...don't call me Shirley! OK fine, LaverneOne Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #88 April 2, 2012 Quote I'm FAR too lazy right now to read through all of these posts, but here's my answer: Ten years. I don't care HOW many jumps you make in HOW short a time or HOW many medals you have, if you quit before ten years in the sport then you are a tourist. Chuck 31 years in the sport, so definitely not a tourist ^this. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gregpso 1 #89 April 3, 2012 A very wise and lovely instructor who got me into free fall from static line (Vere) in the 80 sat Pakenham Vic said "You are a real jumper when you pack your own main pull your own rip cord land without guidance and spot the aircraft." AS I did all (on round canopies) some 30 times on the T 10s I think i can say that. In reality its what you think yourself not what others think. pretty easy in modern times Tandems are passengers the rest are skydivers (cause they are taking responsibility for themselves with some assistance)I tend to be a bit different. enjoyed my time in the sport or is it an industry these days ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #90 April 3, 2012 QuoteStop acting like a tourist. Bingo. Maybe the poster should quit expecting treatment like Disney or Carnival at a DZ. It is not that kind of business. In fact most of his/her rant seems to be because he/she is not being treated like a dollar sign. If he/she was only seen as a dollar sign his/her ass would be kissed all the time. Like it or not, this sport see's plenty of young hotshots show up, brag about how they will be the best, and then disappear and are forgotten."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #91 April 4, 2012 QuoteLike it or not, this sport see's plenty of young hotshots show up, brag about how they will be the best, and then disappear and are forgotten. EXACTLY! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnskydiver688 0 #92 April 4, 2012 Yeah just hang out with Chuck for few hours and you won't be a tourist anymore.... HahaSky Canyon Wingsuiters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 143 #93 April 4, 2012 Not all dz's are friendly and some take time to break into the cliques. If the problem follows you from one dz to another you need to do some self evaluation. If you are a regular, look for other people fresh off of their A and ask them to jump. Go out for a meal with the group after jumping that can really help. I got cold shouldered at a dz recently - went up and said hi to a few jumpers (my first day there) and was pretty much immediately shut out. No real sweat maybe it was a bad day (although I was warned in advance it was 'cliquey'). I've settled into a new dz and am making friends. At the end of the day though many larger dz's are business oriented and make it much harder to pick up friends (especially if you're quiet). Sometimes a small dz is a good option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #94 April 4, 2012 QuoteYeah just hang out with Chuck for few hours and you won't be a tourist anymore.... Haha "Hey Chuck, you just backed your Porsche into that tree" Seriously though, some people get into this HUGE race to "be the best" and either cut corners and bust their ass into a million pieces or they burn out very quickly and quit to become furniture salesmen or Realtors. I've seen it a million times and we laugh about it at the bonfire: "hey, where did so-and-so go?" "He ran off with a titty dancer, quit skydiving six years ago, and now sells furniture in TN". So sad. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #95 April 4, 2012 Quote Not all dz's are friendly and some take time to break into the cliques. If the problem follows you from one dz to another you need to do some self evaluation. If you are a regular, look for other people fresh off of their A and ask them to jump. Go out for a meal with the group after jumping that can really help. I got cold shouldered at a dz recently - went up and said hi to a few jumpers (my first day there) and was pretty much immediately shut out. No real sweat maybe it was a bad day (although I was warned in advance it was 'cliquey'). I've settled into a new dz and am making friends. At the end of the day though many larger dz's are business oriented and make it much harder to pick up friends (especially if you're quiet). Sometimes a small dz is a good option. We're only cliquey to people who smell bad, or we dont like the look of, or POMS we dont like POMS, or South Africans, or Rhodesians either. Hell we dont like anyone IN FACT we don't even like each other. Best you stay away from the DZ, especially this weekend with the Easter Boogie on, you REALLY dont want to be shunned by THAT many people. That would be devastating for you.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #96 April 4, 2012 Quote Yeah just hang out with Chuck for few hours and you won't be a tourist anymore.... Haha If you survive it. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #97 April 4, 2012 Quote Quote Yeah just hang out with Chuck for few hours and you won't be a tourist anymore.... Haha If you survive it. Bring saline.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #98 April 4, 2012 Quote10 years. what he said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #99 April 4, 2012 "hey, where did so-and-so go?" "He ran off with a titty dancer, quit skydiving six years ago, and now sells furniture in TN". So sad. Quote Yup...heard SO many slight variation on that over the years, you would think the world would be overflowin' with ex-titty dancers married to 'retired sky-god'/used car salesmen! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #100 April 5, 2012 QuoteSeriously though, some people get into this HUGE race to "be the best" And that happens once every 15 or 20 years i.e. , Piras, Roger, De Gayardon, and Dave Wilds. As good as they were they the ground didn’t know or care. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
