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[Sluggo_Monster 0]

I've been busy for a while and am getting "Caught-up".

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Cossey saw the piece of nylon

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You have spoken about Duaner's vampire gate
before. COOPER WAS NOT REPORTED AS HAVING
A VAMPIRE'S MOTION OR GATE! COOPER WALKED
PERFECTLY NORMALLY. NOBODY CLAIMED COOPER
WAS NOSFERATU. ONLY YOU MAKE THAT CLAIM IN
BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND DUANER

Where are YOU getting this garbage from. I never noticed that Duane had any unusual gate.
He did not walk with a limp. This was something note by others and has been taken into consideration. I lived with the man and yes I knew he had one hip higher than the other because I hemmed his pants - but NO noticable limp or gate obvious to me unless his knee hurt.
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Once you are done sucking the blood from the
Cooper industry will there be anything left for
the coming generations?

Ahh Now ! So you want the LEGEND to continue and for the truth to never be known . Now we all know why you come here - for self-fulfilment.
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Every witness to the Cooper hijackling sayed Cooper
was physically normal. Had a normal walk and motions.

I have NEVER contradicted that or made a claim otherwise. Any limp Duane may have had other than an occassional knee ache or when he broke his leg in the later yrs was not known to me.
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Duaner Weber's early medical records and examinations at prisons tell another story which
documents Weber's physical conditions YEARS
BEFORE - THE COOPER HIJACK EVEN OCCURRED!
You cannot claim Duane's wierd walk and hip malformation was the result of a parachuting incident.
It existed prior to DBCooper and 11-24-71 even
happening.

Where did you get this GARBAGE?
If you have access to his medical records from the prisons or physicians - then you NEED to reveal that. Even I don't have access to his prison medical records. you are CIA or FBI - because NO one else had ever been able to access those records.

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You come here to a DB Cooper & Parachute Forum
and want to talk about vampires and your personal mental problems and the size of Duane Weber's gonads!

I and everyone else here realizes you are only trying to incite me and to discredit me in anyway you can - it will not work.
I am responding in a nice polite way with the facts. What you are doing only makes you look bad NOT me.

What are you motives if not for the reasons I have cited.
My accusations about you being other than what you present yourself are become even more evident when you claim to have information not available except to the officials of the FBI or CIA and other protective agencies in the USA.

You are so kind.

You make it sound like I'm the one trying to sell
Duane Weber to the world!

I - Georger. You - Jo Weber. Me no you.
You no me. You Jo Weber. Me Georger.
Me go now, Kemosabe?

Put these in your Duane kit.

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Once you are done sucking the blood from the
Cooper industry will there be anything left for
the coming generations?

Ahh Now ! So you want the LEGEND to continue and for the truth to never be known . Now we all know why you come here - for self-fulfilment.
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Tuesday, August 1, 2000

Associated Press


PACE — Jo Weber believes her late husband was skyjacker D.B. Cooper, who vanished after parachuting from a jetliner with $200,000 in ransom money 29 years ago.

The 60-year-old Pace woman said her late husband Duane Weber told her he had a secret as he lay dying of kidney disease at age 70 in 1995.



A 1981 FBI artist's rendition (top) shows D.B. Cooper as he looked in 1971 when he disappeared after parachuting from a skyjacked jetliner with $200,000 in ransom money. Jo Weber of Pace claims that her late husband, Duane Weber, shown in a photo taken about 1977 (bottom) was Cooper. Pensacola News Journal/Associated Press

"I'm Dan Cooper," he whispered.

Determining the truth and persuading others his admission was genuine has been a passion for the real estate agent who met Duane Weber in Atlanta six years after the skyjacking. They married the following year in Colorado where he was an insurance agent.

"I can't get on with my life until I get this behind me," Jo Weber told the Pensacola News Journal for a story in Sunday editions.

What became of Cooper has been a mystery since he jumped from a Northwest Airlines plane between Tacoma, Wash., and Portland, Ore., in 1971.

Retired FBI agent Ralph Himmelsbach, of Woodburn, Ore., who was in charge of the investigation through 1980, said the Florida Panhandle woman's story is credible and persuasive.

A forensic reconstructionist who has worked with the FBI also said the similarities between composite drawings of the skyjacker and contemporary photos of Duane Weber are about as close a match as possible.

Other evidence includes Duane Weber's familiarity with the area where Cooper bailed out, his Army service and a criminal record that included serving time in a prison near Seattle.

Himmelsbach, however, said the deathbed admission is the most compelling factor. For one thing, Duane Weber referred to Dan Cooper. The skyjacker bought his airline ticket under that name. D.B. was an officer's mistake that stuck.

When Jo Weber failed to understand what her husband was talking about, he became angry and shouted "Oh, let it die with me."

The FBI investigated her story and concluded in 1998 there was insufficient evidence to make a determination one way or another.

"What we need to bear in mind is that there have been over 1,100 serious suspects and several thousand less serious," said Seattle-based FBI agent Ray Lauer. He added that several involved deathbed investigations.

Jo Weber complained the FBI looked into her story only because Himmelsbach suggested it and said the agency "treated me like scum."

"Duane Weber has not been discounted," Lauer said. "So if there's new evidence pointing to him we would look more closely at him as a suspect."

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Okay, we know Jo didn't see money and was guessing. But now it's obvious that what really happened was that Duane threw the piece of nylon into the Columbia.

Why did Duane do that?

And why is Jo keeping the video secret for 13 years. Is DB Cooper on the tape with Duane? Is Jo trying to pin it on Duane to cover for DBC?

and is georger pawning off dog x-rays on us? Was DBC blind (sunglasses) and those are x-rays of his seeing eye dog?

I'm confused. The vampire question is interesting. It was a half-moon (almost), and at night.

Maybe we need Duane's dental records. Until we get those, he's for sure a suspect.

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Okay, we know Jo didn't see money and was guessing. But now it's obvious that what really happened was that Duane threw the piece of nylon into the Columbia.

Why did Duane do that?

And why is Jo keeping the video secret for 13 years. Is DB Cooper on the tape with Duane? Is Jo trying to pin it on Duane to cover for DBC?

and is georger pawning off dog x-rays on us? Was DBC blind (sunglasses) and those are x-rays of his seeing eye dog?

I'm confused. The vampire question is interesting. It was a half-moon (almost), and at night.

Maybe we need Duane's dental records. Until we get those, he's for sure a suspect.

I agree. You dont settle these things by merit, but
by a popularity vote. Jo then wins by a wide margin.

The dental angle is interesting. Fillings. Metal detector.
Jo there's your new angle. Drop the motion movies
and pursue teeth. Sure Duane lost a tooth during the
hijack and "somebody" has it.

[georger 197]

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Okay, we know Jo didn't see money and was guessing. But now it's obvious that what really happened was that Duane threw the piece of nylon into the Columbia.

Why did Duane do that?

And why is Jo keeping the video secret for 13 years. Is DB Cooper on the tape with Duane? Is Jo trying to pin it on Duane to cover for DBC?

and is georger pawning off dog x-rays on us? Was DBC blind (sunglasses) and those are x-rays of his seeing eye dog?

I'm confused. The vampire question is interesting. It was a half-moon (almost), and at night.

Maybe we need Duane's dental records. Until we get those, he's for sure a suspect.

I agree. You dont settle these things by merit, but
by a popularity vote. Jo then wins by a wide margin.

The dental angle is interesting. Fillings. Metal detector.
Jo there's your new angle. Drop the motion movies
and pursue teeth. Surely Duane lost a tooth during the
hijack and "somebody" has it. The dna and carbon dating from that tooth would prove conclusively Duane was on site on the date in question and it was Duane Weber and none other. This Duane Weber is and always was DB Cooper aka Dan Cooper.

Unless of course House Bill HR:666 takes effect first!
We have been so busy here prosecuting the Jo Weber case for "Duane Weber" I forgot to mention this.

House Bill HR:666 will limit the amount of time persons
have to make claims to their own candidates being DB Cooper, also known as Dan Cooper. These names:
"DB Cooper" and Dan Cooper" would be trademarked
by the Federal Government and no person could use the term beyond a set time limit.

People advocating their candidate for elected DB Cooper status would have 3 years to present their cases. Beyond that time no use of the names "DB
Cooper" or "Dan Cooper" could occur, subject to strict
fines and imprisonment.

The bill is basically an environmental protection and
reclamation act intended to "clear the air" of all harmful social and cultural substances, especially
where the mental health and 'sagacity of the general
public' are concerned. Subsequent generations would
thank us for these actions -

The House Bill known as the "Jo Weber Act" is currently
being written and will be presented for public evaluation
soon.

House Committee on Nosferatu Prolifation of DB Cooperphaelia: HCNPDBC

[snowmman 3]

Good ones Georger!

Hey times are tough, but something popped up on craigslist yesterday. Submitted a resume. Hope people don't mind I had to namedrop this forum a bit. Sounds promising.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/tlg/1027546814.html

LOOKING FOR D.B. COOPER (Portland)
Reply to: [email protected]
Date: 2009-02-09, 10:32AM PST


Wanted: actor to play the role of the legendary skyjacker D.B. Cooper for appearances during the 2009 Portland Rose Festival season. You'll do several sightings with little to no public interaction throughout Portland and the metropolitan area (dates to be determined later). You will also appear in the Keybank Grand Floral Parade on June 6th.

The character of D.B. Cooper is 5'10" to 6', 170 to 180 pounds, in his 40's with brown eyes and short black hair.

There is pay for the role.

Please send photo and resume to Angel Ocasio at the [email protected] to schedule interview.

(edit) Also found another place where the world is reacting to our discussions. We were discussing peanut allergies. Orange1 mentioned tree nut allergies. It isn't often that you'll then find something happening specifically mentioning Northwest airlines and tree nuts.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/02/16/airline.peanuts/index.html

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Good ones Georger!

Hey times are tough,

Reply: You bet they are! I am fully in favour of
home gardens. Its the best thing a person can do.
A little time working with the soil each day brings
people back to their roots. Clears the mind.

Which brings up a totaly undiscovered facet of
the Cooper Maldum Fornax. IE., clues buried in Jo Weber's yard. How did we overlook that! ???

The FBI really did screw up BIGTIME! Hell, they were standing right there at Jo's with clues very likely right under their toes, and nobody brought along a
shovel. They turned up the length and breadth of
Tina Bar and forgot to dig Jo's yard up. Without a doubt Duane buried something of importance int his case! Jo has said so!

This situation must be remedied immediately.

Diggers? Get ready!

Will process th rest of your comments and come
back with more ideas. I have barely begun.

Georger

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"They turned up the length and breadth of
Tina Bar and forgot to dig Jo's yard up"


well we know they didn't dig much at Tena Bar. But you're right that there could easily be a box buried in the yard of the old place in Florida. Probably has more money in it, maybe from other crimes too. Maybe some weapons.

I wonder if Jo can remember any nights where Duane might have been outside, and didn't say what he was doing when he came back inside.

Were there any shovels in the house? If so, what were they used for?

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Please send photo and resume to Angel Ocasio at the [email protected] to schedule interview.

Resume? Do they want acting experience or hijack experience, do you suppose?

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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Cooper is in Texas! He spent all of his money on a mansion. Google DB Cooper's mansion. I ran across this on a business trip to the great state! I knew he would show up, and in typical skydiver style, what else would we spend money on but beer and BOOBIES!!!!!!!
Blues
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Good ones Georger!

Hey times are tough, but something popped up on craigslist yesterday. Submitted a resume. Hope people don't mind I had to namedrop this forum a bit. Sounds promising.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/tlg/1027546814.html

LOOKING FOR D.B. COOPER (Portland)
Reply to: [email protected]
Date: 2009-02-09, 10:32AM PST


Wanted: actor to play the role of the legendary skyjacker D.B. Cooper for appearances during the 2009 Portland Rose Festival season. You'll do several sightings with little to no public interaction throughout Portland and the metropolitan area (dates to be determined later). You will also appear in the Keybank Grand Floral Parade on June 6th.

The character of D.B. Cooper is 5'10" to 6', 170 to 180 pounds, in his 40's with brown eyes and short black hair.

There is pay for the role.

Please send photo and resume to Angel Ocasio at the [email protected] to schedule interview.

(edit) Also found another place where the world is reacting to our discussions. We were discussing peanut allergies. Orange1 mentioned tree nut allergies. It isn't often that you'll then find something happening specifically mentioning Northwest airlines and tree nuts.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/02/16/airline.peanuts/index.html

The DB Cooper legend just wont die. Nobody is paying for Eldridge Cleaver impersonators these days.

Wonder who will land the DB Cooper job and how much they will resemble the FBI drawings?

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[georger 197]

The DB Cooper legend just wont die. Nobody is paying for Eldridge Cleaver impersonators these days.

Wonder who will land the DB Cooper job and how much they will resemble the FBI drawings?

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The same for the money and the route it took,

Lets say some of the Cooper money did circulate. What record would there be that could be resurrected now?

I have concluded from some VERY crude statistical thinking that the Cooper money could have circulated in the US without a hot serial number being found. If it was spent abroad the likelihood of non detection is even higher.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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Lets say some of the Cooper money did circulate. What record would there be that could be resurrected now?

I have concluded from some VERY crude statistical thinking that the Cooper money could have circulated in the US without a hot serial number being found. If it was spent abroad the likelihood of non detection is even higher.

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If this was done today, there would be a website
called "Where's DB?". Similar to Where's George?

Washington state is not too far from Canada...

Stroll into Canada, exchange it.
Or go to a non-US casino.

I'm not sure how well that would work, but I live
in Florida, so it's not exactly news. I'm sure the FBI
has considered how "challenging" that it is to launder money.

"Bring in $200K in small bills and we'll give you a
free toaster with your new account."

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Cooper is in Texas! He spent all of his money on a mansion. Google DB Cooper's mansion. I ran across this on a business trip to the great state! I knew he would show up, and in typical skydiver style, what else would we spend money on but beer and BOOBIES!!!!!!!
Blues
D

He can't be in Texas. He's in Washington.
I've dug up some traces of Cooper moving money to and from Africa, as recently as 2004.

I don't know if Orange1 is involved, but the coincidences are pretty strong.
attached scans

Maybe my information about the gold bar air drop was a little off, and it's happening more recently..say 2004? I could have been slightly wrong.

Has anyone looked for Cooper in Lesotho?

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Dan Cooper went to Lagos and set up an army of fax and Telex scammers in 1972 using the ransom money as seed capital. He became so rich that he quit the business. Internet 419 advance fee fraud was left to the newcomers who faced a far more skeptical audience than Cooper faced in the golden years.

Get in early and get out before it gets crowded was Cooper's mantra. By applying that philosophy to jet jump hijackings and wire fraud, Cooper retired a wealthy man. He was amused but not surprised at the failures which befell his subsequent imitators.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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WELL, I have been quiet, but we may have the most advanced recognition program in the world considering doing a comparison of several photos of Duane against others of seemingly no interest to the FBI.

This could involve full body shots and an old home video...body and movement comparison and give him a 45 yr old body and face. What would the crew do with a re-enactment like that? What these people can do is beyond any recognition program available to the public.

We have NOT been idle.

Following up on this, [1] we need a Wanna-be Channel. A place where all confessors and promoters
can go to share thoughts, express stories, and hone
their skills. Confessing has progressed and Jo may
be setting the standard. Keep busy. Be vigalent. And
by all means know your enemy, which includes anyone
with an IQ over 60 who bothers to say 'let's look into
this'. The Wannabe Channel may be the coming rage!
Kind of a welfare niche for people who cannot function
in the normal venues of crime, or who have had a vision, or those who are 'just seeking the truth' ...

[2] Why the long drawn out delay in assembling the
full resume which was Duane Weber? What is Jo hiding and why has she been hiding it so long, if we are to believe (as Jo says) that Duane was a fully functional
independent individual, and not some dependent ?
Jo seems to cherish the time she and Duane spent together and worked together in life. She says Duane
"changed" to become the model citizen, while also
displaying a certain "mystery" which Jo plainly says
now reveals the deeper truth of who Duane was:
DB Cooper!

It is as if the DB Cooper side of Duane Weber was
a minor momentary epileptic episode, after which
there was near-perfect recovery (and forgiveness).
Jo is able to work within these margins without any
fit of conscience because its all perfectly normal, in
Jo's jurisdiction.

But, if the Prophet has a flaw is the message still
pure & trustworthy & crucial?

It matters not to Jo.

That is the lesson of Duane Weber. That anything
is possible in the marketplace of ideas, and there
are no contradictions even if confessing to a crime!
The confessor and the criminal are separate but
also one for the sake of confessing, and there is work to be done, and miles to go before anyone can sleep ... so the process continues as Jo continues to tell us
about and speak for, Duane Weber.

It's like a John Wayne movie where everything turns out well. And the gold winds up in the bank.

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All,

I have been contacted (through the Yahoo group that I run) by Jerry Thomas. You may remember him as the guy mentioned in several articles and TV shows. (Jerry Thomas, a retired Army infantryman, drill sergeant and survival instructor..... etc.) He's the guy who has been searching the Washougal watershed for signs of DB.

He says he has figured out the drop zone. I have encouraged him to post here, so maybe he will (if this thread hasn't scared him off... myself included).

If he chooses not to post here, I'll make contact and see what he has to say. I'm just very pushed for time and would rather "share him" with the group.


More as it develops.

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[snowmman 3]

That would be great if someone figured out the drop zone.

There must be new information, because based on the current available information it's not possible to figure out the drop zone.

Maybe Jerry found something.

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I hope Jerry joins the forum. We need some new blood, fresh perspectives, etc.

Still wonder what happened to the original ATC raw radar tapes. They are routinely preserved after an aviation accident or major incident. Where did they go? Who looked at them?

I have said it before, but we have first hand testimony from jump pilots and controllers that ATC radar of that era could not only see jumpers exiting but in enough detail for accurate counts.

Controllers who have never seen this would bet against it and hence nobody may have thought about looking for a Cooper exit echo.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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That would be great if someone figured out the drop zone.

There must be new information, because based on the current available information it's not possible to figure out the drop zone.

Thats not entirely true. A report was due to be released
in March, or did you not believe it? Maybe the report
will be held back. Im not currently sure. Sluggo's
info is new and I hope his friend comes here, asap.

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I have said it before, but we have first hand testimony from jump pilots and controllers that ATC radar of that era could not only see jumpers exiting but in enough detail for accurate counts.
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I hope Jerry joins the forum. We need some new blood, fresh perspectives, etc.

Still wonder what happened to the original ATC raw radar tapes. They are routinely preserved after an aviation accident or major incident. Where did they go? Who looked at them?

I have said it before, but we have first hand testimony from jump pilots and controllers that ATC radar of that era could not only see jumpers exiting but in enough detail for accurate counts.

Controllers who have never seen this would bet against it and hence nobody may have thought about looking for a Cooper exit echo.

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A better question:
Since this feeds directly into the CIA/FBI coverup of Duane's involvement, how come Jo has never pursued this?
It would seem to be stronger evidence of her claims of a coverup.
Jo? why not?

When Duane jumped out, they had him on tape. The tapes are gone. Maybe Jo is part of the coverup too?

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georger said:

"But its my understanding there is sufficient data
between the Transcript and the FP map to zero
in on a narrow drop zone IF Rataczak's testimony
is accurate ... "

that might be true. Can Jerry Thomas do it better than anything we've discussed? Jerry must have put something together that we missed, or have new information.

And re The March Report. Maybe the FBI is releasing info thru indirect channels. I don't know who would be authoring The March Report, but I look forward to it.