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The Mole Men chose their gear wisely Georger. Just finished repairing my half century old Electrolux torpedo canister vacuum. It's a BEAST. Huge motor. Just needed new brushes and a commutator burnishing. Runs like new. Sounds like a 1950s turbojet. Whines and roars. They don't make em like this any more.

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Wish there was some kind of Vacuum to drown out Blevins. So TIRED of hearing the same old thing over & over.

Note his little summary of his interviews,
HE actually wrote a BOOK without going back to see the individuals & talk to them together! His book makes it sound like he knew these people intimately.

NO WONDER they will NOT communicate with him!

WHY didn't he take all of his interviews to the FBI and tell the FBI they needed to talk to these individuals?

Why did these individual talk just to him?

Why didn't they contact the FBI on their own?

IF all of his contact information WAS correct - WHY didn't the FBI seek out the individuals or simply have made a phone calls to see if Blevins was for real?

MAYBE THE FBI DID CONTACT THEM!


:)New and interesting Book about the golden age of marijuanana.
THE LAST PIRATE, by Tony Dokoupil.


Tony is a writer for NBC and the son of Big Tony Dokoupil.

NO there is NO specific reason for mentioning this book. I just found it interesting! Tony Jr did not know the details about his father's past - as I didn't know details about Duane's past.

It was the knowing, but NOT knowing about his father's past until he started to investigate it....that is what caught my attention. Felt really good to know others have walked the same paths I have - NOT really knowing who their father or brother or spouse was until they started to dig into their pasts.

Digging into the past sometimes can create wounds or open old wounds when we learn the truths. Knowing the truth does not erase the past.

Amazing the quotation he written about the father when was interviewed in an elder care facility about the book.
"it felt good to see my past come out. I liked being a smuggleer. The crimes I committed were victimless, No one got hurt. I never cheated anyone".

I suddenly felt an urge to SCREAM. That statement really got to me. THIS man claiming his crime never hurt anyone.
Like Duane! Not recognizing his crime did HURT others.

Duane was NEVER aware of the extent of the "injuries" he caused others nor the continued assaults on the lives of his victims in the aftermath....an aftermath that has gone on for 43 yrs.

When the writer made this statement
in reference to the changing of the law regarding pot legalization. "Guys like my dad see that as vindication."


So sad that these criminals never actually take responsibility for the aftermath their actions created.
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Most criminals don't take responsibility for their actions because they don't want to go to jail. However, many of them do end up taking that responsibility anyway. It's just forced on them by the justice system.

America...incarceration here is a booming business. Make no mistake, there IS justice...but it's a twisted sort of justice. States cut back on juvenile programs and then wonder why they have to keep building more jails.

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'Must feed the jails, the prisons, the court systems, the lawyers, the judges, the probation and parole systems, the people who collect and distribute the restitution payments, the providing of the food to the prisoners, the transport of the prisoners, the medical care, etc. etc.etc...'



It's endless. It's like The Blob from the 1950's movie with Steve McQueen. The more it eats, the more it grows. There is no stopping it.

In order to perpetuate this ridiculous juggernaut, which mostly only creates criminals anyway...you need more and more bodies to justify its existence. Which is a good reason to build another prison and cut back on the juvenile programs. Works very well to help the system grow.

Washington State is a very good example of how this works. Back in the late 1970's they closed most of the youth camps for juvenile offenders, which were staffed mostly by college-educated counselors who had pretty good success straightening kids out. Instead, they just started sticking kids in juvenile detention centers and sentencing them to X number of months for X crime, and then tossing them back out.

Ten years later or so...Washington had to start building more prisons. Then they converted most of the old youth camps to adult facilities as well. When Jay Inslee was running for governor, I got a minute to speak with him about this. I handed his assistant a three-page plan on how to re-vamp the whole damn thing very easily, and why the results would be nothing but positive. He's standing there nodding. Probably not listening.

He barely glanced at it and then handed it off to his assistant. It probably ended up in File 13. :S

The real problem, the underlying problem, is that we brought all of this on ourselves by forgetting the kids. Hell, the System has even expanded to television shows like Lockup or Extended Stay Lockup or whatever. If they actually FIXED the system, many prisons would lie empty due to lack of participants and millions would be laid off their correctional jobs. We couldn't have that now, could we?


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Most criminals don't take responsibility for their actions because they don't want to go to jail. However, many of them do end up taking that responsibility anyway. It's just forced on them by the justice system.

America...incarceration here is a booming business. Make no mistake, there IS justice...but it's a twisted sort of justice. States cut back on juvenile programs and then wonder why they have to keep building more jails.

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'Must feed the jails, the prisons, the court systems, the lawyers, the judges, the probation and parole systems, the people who collect and distribute the restitution payments, the providing of the food to the prisoners, the transport of the prisoners, the medical care, etc. etc.etc...'



It's endless. It's like The Blob from the 1950's movie with Steve McQueen. The more it eats, the more it grows. There is no stopping it.

In order to perpetuate this ridiculous juggernaut, which mostly only creates criminals anyway...you need more and more bodies to justify its existence. Which is a good reason to build another prison and cut back on the juvenile programs. Works very well to help the system grow.

Washington State is a very good example of how this works. Back in the late 1970's they closed most of the youth camps for juvenile offenders, which were staffed mostly by college-educated counselors who had pretty good success straightening kids out. Instead, they just started sticking kids in juvenile detention centers and sentencing them to X number of months for X crime, and then tossing them back out.

Ten years later or so...Washington had to start building more prisons. Then they converted most of the old youth camps to adult facilities as well. When Jay Inslee was running for governor, I got a minute to speak with him about this. I handed his assistant a three-page plan on how to re-vamp the whole damn thing very easily, and why the results would be nothing but positive. He's standing there nodding. Probably not listening.

He barely glanced at it and then handed it off to his assistant. It probably ended up in File 13. :S

The real problem, the underlying problem, is that we brought all of this on ourselves by forgetting the kids. Hell, the System has even expanded to television shows like Lockup or Extended Stay Lockup or whatever. If they actually FIXED the system, many prisons would lie empty due to lack of participants and millions would be laid off their correctional jobs. We couldn't have that now, could we?
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What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?

Where did you get the need to dominate everyone and
everything? Isn't that a typical pattern in criminal behavior?

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What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?

Where did you get the need to dominate everyone and
everything? Isn't that a typical pattern in criminal behavior?

:S



One could ask the same of you oh personal attacker ordinaire....

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What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?

Where did you get the need to dominate everyone and
everything? Isn't that a typical pattern in criminal behavior?

:S



One could ask the same of you oh personal attacker ordinaire....



Or of you! oh personal attacker .. except that it is me who
asked the question!

What's your interest in this if I may ask. :S

But since you attacked, what's the Grey-thing icon all about?
What nondescript subliminal message are you trying to convey
with that? Do you represent UFO's? Endorse UFO research? Like
UFO's? Rode on a UFO? Was abducted by a UFO? Jumped from a
UFO? ..................................

I mean I'll be glad to have an intelligent conversation with you
if that's what you want ....... and will permit ........ if it's
possible. Are you from HD-436L ?

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'What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?'



Actually, no. I spend a great deal of my time serving others. Scrubbing floors, vacuuming their carpets, or sometimes if I'm lucky they let me edit their work. That's pretty much it. :)
My suggestion is you somehow get a handle on the hate thing before it eats you alive from the inside.
Hate takes way too much energy to bother with it. Trust me on this. You'll live longer.


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What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?

Where did you get the need to dominate everyone and
everything? Isn't that a typical pattern in criminal behavior?

:S



One could ask the same of you oh personal attacker ordinaire....



Or of you! oh personal attacker .. except that it is me who
asked the question!

What's your interest in this if I may ask. :S

But since you attacked, what's the Grey-thing icon all about?
What nondescript subliminal message are you trying to convey
with that? Do you represent UFO's? Endorse UFO research? Like
UFO's? Rode on a UFO? Was abducted by a UFO? Jumped from a
UFO? ..................................

I mean I'll be glad to have an intelligent conversation with you
if that's what you want ....... and will permit ........ if it's
possible. Are you from HD-436L ?

It was not an attack.. it was an observation of the continuous posts you make that are creepy and stalker of Blevins.. Obsessive behavior is soooo unbecoming when you have made hundreds of such creepy posts.. I think it is a form of cyber bullying... which is quickly becoming a crime in many places.

Why do you even bother coming here.. you have your personal little playgrounds.... why fill our screens here with your daily childish gibberish???

I have seen very little in the way of intelligence in most of those posts.

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What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?

Where did you get the need to dominate everyone and
everything? Isn't that a typical pattern in criminal behavior?

:S



One could ask the same of you oh personal attacker ordinaire....



Or of you! oh personal attacker .. except that it is me who
asked the question!

What's your interest in this if I may ask. :S

But since you attacked, what's the Grey-thing icon all about?
What nondescript subliminal message are you trying to convey
with that? Do you represent UFO's? Endorse UFO research? Like
UFO's? Rode on a UFO? Was abducted by a UFO? Jumped from a
UFO? ..................................

I mean I'll be glad to have an intelligent conversation with you
if that's what you want ....... and will permit ........ if it's
possible. Are you from HD-436L ?

It was not an attack.. it was an observation of the continuous posts you make that are creepy and stalker of Blevins.. Obsessive behavior is soooo unbecoming when you have made hundreds of such creepy posts.. I think it is a form of cyber bullying... which is quickly becoming a crime in many places.

Why do you even bother coming here.. you have your personal little playgrounds.... why fill our screens here with your daily childish gibberish???

I have seen very little in the way of intelligence in most of those posts.

And how do you see and evaluate the posts of RobertMBlevins
and Jo Weber, if I may ask ?

Anything 'creepy' and 'stalking' in their highly repetitive posts?

I must confess I sometimes feel as if YOU are stalking ME!

In fact, I am moved to say: "I'm glad we are having this
conversation HAL. Do you enjoy your management work here at
Dropzone? I find your management work here at Dropzone very
creepy and downright thuggish and crude at times. Very
one-sided and not intelligent at all. So, if that is your definition
of "intelligence", then frankly .... well you know the rest".

I'm glad we had this conversation, HAL. (Or GREY, or whatever
you are).

I think you and RobertMBlevins are a perfect team here at
Dropzone. I think you should give a presentation on "Creeps and
Stalkers on the Internet" at Mr. Blevins' symposium in August. Give some thought o inviting Sean Hannity also.

:D:D

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I won't quote over all of Georger's previous comments. I think they speak for themselves.

You went to college? And then they actually turned you loose with students as an instructor? I have heard this. It is hard for me to fathom, if you'll excuse me. You understand that people know who you are, due to your presence in the Cooper book by Geoff Gray, right? He speaks of you. You are in the index as well, and you've even picked on HIM and his book. If you didn't want to be in there, you shouldn't have talked to him, right?
You are like a shotgun with a bird load. Everything in the pattern is a target for you.

Lately you've spent your DZ time serving as the Designated Attack Dog on Pretty Much Everyone and Anyone.

Let's face it. You pretty much don't like anything or anybody. More or less.


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What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?

Where did you get the need to dominate everyone and
everything? Isn't that a typical pattern in criminal behavior?

:S



One could ask the same of you oh personal attacker ordinaire....



Or of you! oh personal attacker .. except that it is me who
asked the question!

What's your interest in this if I may ask. :S

But since you attacked, what's the Grey-thing icon all about?
What nondescript subliminal message are you trying to convey
with that? Do you represent UFO's? Endorse UFO research? Like
UFO's? Rode on a UFO? Was abducted by a UFO? Jumped from a
UFO? ..................................

I mean I'll be glad to have an intelligent conversation with you
if that's what you want ....... and will permit ........ if it's
possible. Are you from HD-436L ?

It was not an attack.. it was an observation of the continuous posts you make that are creepy and stalker of Blevins.. Obsessive behavior is soooo unbecoming when you have made hundreds of such creepy posts.. I think it is a form of cyber bullying... which is quickly becoming a crime in many places.

Why do you even bother coming here.. you have your personal little playgrounds.... why fill our screens here with your daily childish gibberish???

I have seen very little in the way of intelligence in most of those posts.

And how do you see and evaluate the posts of RobertMBlevins
and Jo Weber, if I may ask ?

Anything 'creepy' and 'stalking' in their highly repetitive posts?

I must confess I sometimes feel as if YOU are stalking ME!

In fact, I am moved to say: "I'm glad we are having this
conversation HAL. Do you enjoy your management work here at
Dropzone? I find your management work here at Dropzone very
creepy and downright thuggish and crude at times. Very
one-sided and not intelligent at all. So, if that is your definition
of "intelligence", then frankly .... well you know the rest".

I'm glad we had this conversation, HAL. (Or GREY, or whatever
you are).

I think you and RobertMBlevins are a perfect team here at
Dropzone. I think you should give a presentation on "Creeps and
Stalkers on the Internet" at Mr. Blevins' symposium in August. Give some thought o inviting Sean Hannity also.

:D:D

Paranoid Jerry????

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What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?

Where did you get the need to dominate everyone and
everything? Isn't that a typical pattern in criminal behavior?

:S



One could ask the same of you oh personal attacker ordinaire....



Or of you! oh personal attacker .. except that it is me who
asked the question!

What's your interest in this if I may ask. :S

But since you attacked, what's the Grey-thing icon all about?
What nondescript subliminal message are you trying to convey
with that? Do you represent UFO's? Endorse UFO research? Like
UFO's? Rode on a UFO? Was abducted by a UFO? Jumped from a
UFO? ..................................

I mean I'll be glad to have an intelligent conversation with you
if that's what you want ....... and will permit ........ if it's
possible. Are you from HD-436L ?

It was not an attack.. it was an observation of the continuous posts you make that are creepy and stalker of Blevins.. Obsessive behavior is soooo unbecoming when you have made hundreds of such creepy posts.. I think it is a form of cyber bullying... which is quickly becoming a crime in many places.

Why do you even bother coming here.. you have your personal little playgrounds.... why fill our screens here with your daily childish gibberish???

I have seen very little in the way of intelligence in most of those posts.

And how do you see and evaluate the posts of RobertMBlevins
and Jo Weber, if I may ask ?

Anything 'creepy' and 'stalking' in their highly repetitive posts?

I must confess I sometimes feel as if YOU are stalking ME!

In fact, I am moved to say: "I'm glad we are having this
conversation HAL. Do you enjoy your management work here at
Dropzone? I find your management work here at Dropzone very
creepy and downright thuggish and crude at times. Very
one-sided and not intelligent at all. So, if that is your definition
of "intelligence", then frankly .... well you know the rest".

I'm glad we had this conversation, HAL. (Or GREY, or whatever
you are).

I think you and RobertMBlevins are a perfect team here at
Dropzone. I think you should give a presentation on "Creeps and
Stalkers on the Internet" at Mr. Blevins' symposium in August. Give some thought o inviting Sean Hannity also.

:D:D

Paranoid Jerry????

And right there you VIOLATE a rule of Dropzone to intimidate.

So much for your integrity! :D

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'And right there you VIOLATE a rule of Dropzone to intimidate.

So much for your integrity!'


Right. This comes to me from the person who has done nothing except play Attack Dog on nearly everyone here for how long now on this thread? Let's just say 'a while'. Get real.

Can't believe they turned you loose with young minds. Seriously. Anytime you decide to post something Cooper-related instead of Attack Dog related, it might be a refreshing change. You've pretty much run through all the names. Maybe it's time to try something else. :)


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What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?

Where did you get the need to dominate everyone and
everything? Isn't that a typical pattern in criminal behavior?

:S



One could ask the same of you oh personal attacker ordinaire....



Or of you! oh personal attacker .. except that it is me who
asked the question!

What's your interest in this if I may ask. :S

But since you attacked, what's the Grey-thing icon all about?
What nondescript subliminal message are you trying to convey
with that? Do you represent UFO's? Endorse UFO research? Like
UFO's? Rode on a UFO? Was abducted by a UFO? Jumped from a
UFO? ..................................

I mean I'll be glad to have an intelligent conversation with you
if that's what you want ....... and will permit ........ if it's
possible. Are you from HD-436L ?

It was not an attack.. it was an observation of the continuous posts you make that are creepy and stalker of Blevins.. Obsessive behavior is soooo unbecoming when you have made hundreds of such creepy posts.. I think it is a form of cyber bullying... which is quickly becoming a crime in many places.

Why do you even bother coming here.. you have your personal little playgrounds.... why fill our screens here with your daily childish gibberish???

I have seen very little in the way of intelligence in most of those posts.

And how do you see and evaluate the posts of RobertMBlevins
and Jo Weber, if I may ask ?

Anything 'creepy' and 'stalking' in their highly repetitive posts?

I must confess I sometimes feel as if YOU are stalking ME!

In fact, I am moved to say: "I'm glad we are having this
conversation HAL. Do you enjoy your management work here at
Dropzone? I find your management work here at Dropzone very
creepy and downright thuggish and crude at times. Very
one-sided and not intelligent at all. So, if that is your definition
of "intelligence", then frankly .... well you know the rest".

I'm glad we had this conversation, HAL. (Or GREY, or whatever
you are).

I think you and RobertMBlevins are a perfect team here at
Dropzone. I think you should give a presentation on "Creeps and
Stalkers on the Internet" at Mr. Blevins' symposium in August. Give some thought o inviting Sean Hannity also.

:D:D

Paranoid Jerry????

And right there you VIOLATE a rule of Dropzone to intimidate.

So much for your integrity! :D

Actually, your name (occupation, education, residency, etc) is public knowledge already, that happened long ago.

Amazon has hit the nail on the head. IMO, "Cyber Bully" is a title you have earned fully. You had a focus, but your beam is widening to include all, very BK style.

Of course, this thread has degraded to a "love fest" of around five folks, none of which, are honest and open minded to facts, science, experts opinions, expert experience, or the truth.

To date, most every suspect mentioned in this thread, has been eliminated, yet, we still hear the same old tired regurgitated story, of each. IIRC, There is only one not eliminated. Those who accuse others of being plants and cover ups crew, are doing more to side track the investigation (well the public web based version at least) than any they accuse of such deeds.

But, this thread isn't about solving the Cooper Hijacking, never was.

IMO, this thread should go to the dumpster, and those who post who are not Skydivers, and have no other reason to be on the web page, follow the thread out.

Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

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'To date, most every suspect mentioned in this thread, has been eliminated, yet, we still hear the same old tired regurgitated story, of each. IIRC, There is only one not eliminated. Those who accuse others of being plants and cover ups crew, are doing more to side track the investigation (well the public web based version at least) than any they accuse of such deeds.

But, this thread isn't about solving the Cooper Hijacking, never was...'



Oh, I think it was at one time, but it's been a while.

I gotta know. Which of the suspects has NOT been eliminated. I hope (*crosses fingers*) you mean Kenny. The FBI says he hasn't, although they wouldn't lift a finger to actually find OUT.

From Special Agent Fred Gutt, Seattle FBI, to my email box, about the time Marla Cooper went public. I asked them if it was true that Kenny had been ruled out due to the variances between Kenny and the official description:

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'The D.B. Cooper investigation remains open and has not been solved. Accordingly, the FBI does not have definitive proof that Kenneth Peter Christiansen was NOT the skyjacker D.B. Cooper. Your understanding that “the Bureau’s official position is that he was not the guy” is incorrect; no one has been officially ruled out, including Mr Christiansen. Some in this office believe he is a good suspect, while others believe there are more viable suspects, but no one has been officially ruled out...'



I have to believe that when he says 'more viable suspects' he is referring to LD Cooper/Marla Cooper. In part, at least. That didn't turn out too well I think. ;)


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What is your mission in life?

Do you see yourself as superior to most people?

Where did you get the need to dominate everyone and
everything? Isn't that a typical pattern in criminal behavior?

:S



One could ask the same of you oh personal attacker ordinaire....



Or of you! oh personal attacker .. except that it is me who
asked the question!

What's your interest in this if I may ask. :S

But since you attacked, what's the Grey-thing icon all about?
What nondescript subliminal message are you trying to convey
with that? Do you represent UFO's? Endorse UFO research? Like
UFO's? Rode on a UFO? Was abducted by a UFO? Jumped from a
UFO? ..................................

I mean I'll be glad to have an intelligent conversation with you
if that's what you want ....... and will permit ........ if it's
possible. Are you from HD-436L ?

It was not an attack.. it was an observation of the continuous posts you make that are creepy and stalker of Blevins.. Obsessive behavior is soooo unbecoming when you have made hundreds of such creepy posts.. I think it is a form of cyber bullying... which is quickly becoming a crime in many places.

Why do you even bother coming here.. you have your personal little playgrounds.... why fill our screens here with your daily childish gibberish???

I have seen very little in the way of intelligence in most of those posts.

And how do you see and evaluate the posts of RobertMBlevins
and Jo Weber, if I may ask ?

Anything 'creepy' and 'stalking' in their highly repetitive posts?

I must confess I sometimes feel as if YOU are stalking ME!

In fact, I am moved to say: "I'm glad we are having this
conversation HAL. Do you enjoy your management work here at
Dropzone? I find your management work here at Dropzone very
creepy and downright thuggish and crude at times. Very
one-sided and not intelligent at all. So, if that is your definition
of "intelligence", then frankly .... well you know the rest".

I'm glad we had this conversation, HAL. (Or GREY, or whatever
you are).

I think you and RobertMBlevins are a perfect team here at
Dropzone. I think you should give a presentation on "Creeps and
Stalkers on the Internet" at Mr. Blevins' symposium in August. Give some thought o inviting Sean Hannity also.

:D:D

Paranoid Jerry????

And right there you VIOLATE a rule of Dropzone to intimidate.

So much for your integrity! :D

Actually, your name (occupation, education, residency, etc) is public knowledge already, that happened long ago.

Amazon has hit the nail on the head. IMO, "Cyber Bully" is a title you have earned fully. You had a focus, but your beam is widening to include all, very BK style.

Of course, this thread has degraded to a "love fest" of around five folks, none of which, are honest and open minded to facts, science, experts opinions, expert experience, or the truth.

To date, most every suspect mentioned in this thread, has been eliminated, yet, we still hear the same old tired regurgitated story, of each. IIRC, There is only one not eliminated. Those who accuse others of being plants and cover ups crew, are doing more to side track the investigation (well the public web based version at least) than any they accuse of such deeds.

But, this thread isn't about solving the Cooper Hijacking, never was.

IMO, this thread should go to the dumpster, and those who post who are not Skydivers, and have no other reason to be on the web page, follow the thread out.

Matt

That's a mouth full. I'll make this simple for ya.

Cyber bully? Hardly!

Close this thread if you skydivers want.

I'm just a spectator here.
:S

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Come on, Georger. That makes absolutely no sense. What people are trying to tell you, in my humble opinion, is that your each and every post for some time now...

...has been all about harping on everyone and almost anyone who posts practically anything. I'll give you this much. You don't play favorites. You pretty much go after everyone equally. And sometimes people are going to come back on you about that, as I did earlier when I referred to what you used to do for a living. In reality, I'm sure you were a fine instructor/teacher etc. But I said that to try and wake you up a bit.

Are people at the Alternate Cooper Website putting you up to this stuff? Because they can't do it? Because they are either banned or 'on vacation'? If so, you are being manipulated.

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"It means you go somewhere...and you don't NEVER come back." :)




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'I'm just a spectator here...'



Come on, Georger. That makes absolutely no sense. What people are trying to tell you, in my humble opinion, is that your each and every post for some time now...

...has been all about harping on everyone and almost anyone who posts practically anything. I'll give you this much. You don't play favorites. You pretty much go after everyone equally. And sometimes people are going to come back on you about that, as I did earlier when I referred to what you used to do for a living. In reality, I'm sure you were a fine instructor/teacher etc. But I said that to try and wake you up a bit.

Are people at the Alternate Cooper Website putting you up to this stuff? Because they can't do it? Because they are either banned or 'on vacation'? If so, you are being manipulated.

***"What's 'vacation' mean, Mama?"

"It means you go somewhere...and you don't NEVER come back." :)


Mind your own business for a change.

There you go Matt! There is a perfect example of what you are
pissed off about.

Tell Blevins to mind his own business .... and we will mind ours!

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Thank You for stating that. For 5 yrs I wanted to make a statement to Georger about his gibberish and senseless attacks, but aware if I did it could well backfire. The cost of confronting Georger could cause the he loss of the DZ site - the only voice I have had & the truths would remain buried forever.

Actually Georger is one of the REACTIVES - his postings spur Blevins & others to repetitively make postings we are all very tired of...this is with design.

Georger seems to come to this thread only to distract, react and agitate, but I thought I was the only one who GOT it!

Georger is being used by Galen Cook as his proxie to disseminate the thread. Cook has been doing this for some time now! I am surprise others have NOT noted this.

Georger ignores any postings I make inferring to his connection to an organization out of Duane's past. I never name it.... Georger did NOT spend ALL of his life in the location he now maintains nor in his current position or retired position.

Why GEORGER hangs around! He makes jibberish - hoping to make the thread go away! I hoped I was wrong & just beinging paranoid.

In my inquiries into the past of Weber & contacting a company that quoted the privacy act. I was the wife of the subject inquiring about my husbands employment with them - the personel told me the name of the only person who could grant me that permission...J.W.

For GODS sake this was susposedly an INSURANCE company - so why were the employment rosters and old records so secret. I was told this not once, but 3 times & now the company no longer exist, but it came out of TX with political, mafia, Union and presidential connections - Very STRONG connections!

These connections included Hollywood - because of the money and power and the political connections.

The key person also had programs for rehabilitating EX-CONS at the same time Duane Weber was known to have had CONNECTIONS in that same area in 1962.
ODD people connected to this man always seemed to be in the right place at the right time.

Duane stayed in contact with these indiviudals until he died.......ODD! At times he would be working for them, but only for a short term & they were ALWAYS there for him if he needed anything. HE WAS not in the employee of this company when we attended a special event & then the next day to deliver a package to a former person with MAFIA connections & Government connections - one who negoiated governent contracts.

Note, Cook was a UNION attorney or so he represented himself to be at one time. Now I wonder if he is an attorney at all. If not then he needs to hire an attorney - my papers go into the mail this wk to the FBI and to HeadQuarters in DC.

The FBI can ignore them if they wish, but not receiving a response in a reasonable amount of time can create consequences I do NOT believe the FBI wants. Perhaps the efforts to have me labeled as a lunatic works in some circles, but NOT in all of them.

Making the kind of threats Cook made - there is a LAW & I will use that Law to the max of its capabilities.
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IMO, this thread should go to the dumpster, and those who post who are not Skydivers, and have no other reason to be on the web page, follow the thread out.

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Nahh. Every town worth a damn has its bad neighborhoods. Bulldozing them isn't the solution. Dropzone is a town. This is a dive bar.

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Georger ignores any postings I make inferring to his connection to an organization out of Duane's past. I never name it.... Georger did NOT spend ALL of his life in the location he now maintains nor in his current position or retired position.

Why GEORGER hangs around! He makes jibberish - hoping to make the thread go away! I hoped I was wrong & just beinging paranoid.

In my inquiries into the past of Weber & contacting a company that quoted the privacy act. I was the wife of the subject inquiring about my husbands employment with them - the personel told me the name of the only person who could grant me that permission...J.W.



Say what? Are you now connecting Georger and Duane?
That's even more amazing than Duane's JFK, RFK and MLK connections. Care to disclose any supporting evidence Jo?

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Say what? Are you now connecting Georger and Duane?
That's even more amazing than Duane's JFK, RFK and MLK connections. Care to disclose any supporting evidence Jo?

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I have stayed pretty mum about this because Georger's real name is relatively common. A name I knew before I ever posted to the thread....again information I would have recorded in my daily logs.

Limited to the time I can now spend on the computer.

That COMPANY (Duane used to work for here and there) is how the JFK connection came along.... and when I first heard the name JW. But it is a common name & why I just do NOT go there!

Georger's own actions & words & pretenses are the only reasons I let my mind wander in that direction, but since he has of recent been so vocal about certain things....it does cause one to revisit what is known & to puzzle over it. Hmmmn Nowwnnn maybe he is JW the one connected to XXXXXxxx and xxxxx xxxx?

One reflects back on the actions of a so called attorney who has supposed FBI connections & multiple suspects over a multi period of time & who never seems to have an original thought so he borrows the information of others.

I have Emails I exchanged with this person....and do NOT have a problem using them.

I find myself feeling sorry for Georger because maybe he is the lamb being led to the slaughter. OR is this supposedly highly trained and educated man loosing it. The multi-personalities of each character becomes mind boggling.

The RFK story about the tie was a story told to me by a young man who was only 8 yrs old when it happened - but the story would get told every yr after & a specific thing both the step-daughter and the step-son remembered vividly.

That is the ONLY known connection I have to RFK. I have others, but no one would believe me and I do NOT know if what was told is true or false.

MLK - no need to repeat those other than to ask if any of you ever spoke with the attorneys & if you did - did they spend the time with you they did with me regarding my enquiries. Unfortunately all of this came down just before - James Earl Ray died. But I have my notes of the conversations & I have publicized them in this thread regarding my conversations.

In the near future the last link will expire and unfortunately I maybe the last link - at least I think so, but I hope not.

Maybe there was some strategy in Duane marrying a much younger woman....maybe I am supposed to tell the damn story - that is what one of my contacts told me - but, ;)at this moment I don't remember who told me this - hopefully I wrote about it in this thread and someone can find it.:|

I think it was the attorney for MLK or maybe the attorney for Jowers - at any rate I do have it documented. I have talked to so many people of the last 18 yrs that it is impossible for me to remember them all.

This thread is NOT a dive - there is history being told here in the event anyone gives a damn about the truths.

Most of it comes from a woman who has labeled herself Crazy, Delusional and Off Her Rocker. Seems as though that self made title is being used against me.

My steadfast determinations are also being used against me....ONE thing about all of this - THIS thread has recorded it ALL.

I am aggressive, subjective, intelligent, naive, stupid dumb broad, but Crazy nor Delusional nor Off My Rocker are not within those boundary lines. Of course some of that is said with tongue in cheek!;)

Galen Cook is now using my own words to threaten & coerce me. They cleaned up the site, but they cannot erase the words - Galen proclaimed about me....he cannot deny what he threatened & claimed to be doing & claimed the FBI is a party to these actions.

Should the FBI condone the actions & the claims of Galen Cook - NO person in their RIGHT mind would ever report a crime no matter how heinous it was.

As it STANDS the FBI is receiving a copy of everything that came down regarding Cook & his claimed associations with the FBI.

I will pursue this & I or my family will receive an apology from Galen Cook and from the FBI in a formal public statement.
With the supposed actions proclaimed by an Attorney & said attorney claiming to speak on behalf of the FBI...NO WITNESS would EVERY come forward about a crime. IT is easier to WALK away.

;):S:o:|Fortunately or Unfortunately, I come from the OLD SCHOOL were RIGHT is RIGHT and wrong is wrong.

I will GET a public apology! From the FBI and From Cook and appropriate actions will be taken to make sure NO one ever again CAN claim to speak on BEHALF of the FBI....in making a threat of the nature that was made against me.
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I will GET a public apology! From the FBI and From Cook..



No Jo, you won't. Not a chance in hell. You can take that prediction to the bank.

Concentrate on investigation, not demanding apologies and retractions.

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Maybe there was some stratagy in Duane marrying a much younger woman....maybe I am supposed to tell the damn story - that is what one of my contacts told me -



Ummm Jo, Duane's strategy in courting and marrying a much younger (and quite attractive;)) woman is much simpler than that. It had little to do with legacy preservation. Its more linked to testosterone.

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This thread is NOT a dive - there is history being told here in the event anyone gives a damn about the truths.



I beg to differ Jo. I know a dive when I see one... and this joint is a dive. That said, there is nothing mutually exclusive about dives and seeking the truth. There are probably more lies told in places where drinks cost $20 than in ones where they are $3.55. It's pretty hard to credibly pose as a real big shot if you are drinking in a dive bar. You don't have to be on the A list to get in here. There is no bouncer.

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Galen Cook is now using my own words to threaten & coerce me. They cleaned up the site, but they cannot erase the words - Galen proclaimed about me....he cannot deny what he threatened & claimed to be doing.



Give it a rest Jo. Just ignore it. You are too easily drawn into a fray. Galen is no danger to you and if you don't like what he posts just ignore it. He posts the stuff on a forum that is incredibly obscure. When you republish his posts you just expand the audience from maybe 8 people to thousands.

Expecting the FBI to spend one minute following up on your complaints about what Galen Cook posted on a site that not even Google can find is unrealistic at best. The FBI has real emergencies to deal with. Your matter isn't a real emergency.

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Georger ignores any postings I make inferring to his connection to an organization out of Duane's past. I never name it.... Georger did NOT spend ALL of his life in the location he now maintains nor in his current position or retired position.

Why GEORGER hangs around! He makes jibberish - hoping to make the thread go away! I hoped I was wrong & just beinging paranoid.

In my inquiries into the past of Weber & contacting a company that quoted the privacy act. I was the wife of the subject inquiring about my husbands employment with them - the personel told me the name of the only person who could grant me that permission...J.W.



Say what? Are you now connecting Georger and Duane?
That's even more amazing than Duane's JFK, RFK and MLK connections. Care to disclose any supporting evidence Jo?

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Well the post is titled: Gibberish. :D

Ive noticed Jo trying to make this connection for years and just
never responded to it. Its ludicrous and funny. I just let Jo
blather .... because I know saying anything is pointless.

Likewise any assertion by anyone that Cook and I are a team
doesn't know 'squat' about Galen Cook, or me. It's just one more
piece of Dropzone "smut". There never seems to be an end to it!

Jo is just upset that Galen finally cut her off - no more Jo Weber
phone calls accepted, as Galen explains it. Jo just doesn't like
people saying "no" to her. Jo evidently thinks Dropzone is her
cotton plantation and people need to jump when called!

You've been making some good posts here lately, 377. Who
knows. Maybe they will cool people down ?

Off topic: Did you also notice this in the news? Some good
forensic work is flowing from this - plus a few geneticists have
already issued opinions on the possibility of extracting mtdna.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/apr/23/shakespeare-diary-john-baret-quadruple-dictionarie

Note the New Yorker link in the above. (a non Gray article)

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I've noticed Jo trying to make this connection for years and just
never responded to it. Its ludicrous and funny. I just let Jo
blather .... because I know saying anything is pointless.



:SNot Yrs. - Just since your real name was published in Grays book!



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Jo is just upset that Galen finally cut her off - no more Jo Weber
phone calls accepted, as Galen explains it.



:)You are way off base! Would you like to see ALL of the exchanges I made with Cook? He built whatever he was trying to build off of Jo's exchanges with him - he put bait out there & most of it was false. It has been a long time since I tried to contact Galen.

When I found out he was using my information - I was upset & tried to contact him after what HE did to Tina. Did you know that he stopped by to see her in her office without telling her who we was?

Did he explain the circumstances of that visit with her? Well, I have an email from Galen that does! Since I do NOT share private information - I have NOT publicized it!

Galen mailed me a picture of Tina after he set Bruce up and supposedly finance Bruce's trip to see her. Since I know Bruce's financial circumstances it was obvious he was unable to make the trip without assistance. If he made it on his own - even Galen should have been upset by the circumstance if he had a heart at all.

Your name is the same name provided to me MANY yrs ago when I contacted a prior employer of Weber's. Seem as though the man made a habit of hiring ex-cons. More than one. Four (4) that I know of! Maybe he was just a man with a BIG heart & wanted to give these guy a chance to make good.

Since your real name is a common name I have NOT pursued this....but any time you would like to discuss it in person...and I mean eye to eye not over the phone or by email, please feel free to do so.
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I've noticed Jo trying to make this connection for years and just
never responded to it. Its ludicrous and funny. I just let Jo
blather .... because I know saying anything is pointless.



:SNot Yrs. - Just since your real name was published in Grays book!


so.



Gray's book was Published August 9th 2011.

Today is April 29, 2014.

14 minus 11 = 3 years.

And you were alleging connections between me and Duane in
2008 after I joined! You said I and people I knew had information
about the uniformed man in your mystery photo you and Duane
took in Utah. Then you bugged me about some photo of a child
you said was Tina Mucklow in an album you said Duane had ....

And your curse goes on and on and on ..... all launched from
Dropzone.com.

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