freeryde13 0 #1 February 4, 2004 just curious_________________________________________ people see me as a challenge to their balance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymick 0 #2 February 4, 2004 Fail AFF Stage 6 3 times ( turns) I would either not put enough effort in for the turn or too much and spin up. The rest of the stages were sweet I wont even mention when I did SL a few years back... I did about 20 jumps and think failed more then I passed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIREFLYR 0 #3 February 4, 2004 8 for 8."One flew East,and one flew West..............one flew over the cuckoo's nest" "There's absolutely no excuse for the way I'm about to act" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #4 February 4, 2004 I'm an AFF Instructor, so I havn't voted in your poll. I was a Static Line student, but I have over 1400 AFF dives. I've had students move through the 8 levels in a weekend without a repeat. I've also had students do 23 jumps to graduate the AFF program. Most are somewhere in between with 1 or 2 repeats. I don't charge a fee for repeats. The student pays slots, rig hire and pack jobs only on a repeat level. I see it from the point of view of being contracted to graduate the student off AFF for a price. I see no reason why I should be rewarded financially for a student who I'll learn more from than the "perfect" ones. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pendragon 1 #5 February 4, 2004 However, failing levels doesn't mean you're a worse skydiver - sometimes quite the contrary. All depends on the person - and the DZ! Some are much harder to get through than others! I've seen people ace their AFF only to get unstuck on WARP or always land badly... I had >6 repeats, but got to my "B" licence in next to no time and have never had any issue with canopy control. Happy landings...-- BASE #1182 Muff #3573 PFI #52; UK WSI #13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #6 February 4, 2004 1 level. I had to do a level 3/4. When they released me on my level 3, I realized at that point exactly how stable my instructors were keeping me. When they let go of me, I started turning...and turning...and turning...Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #7 February 4, 2004 Failed level 3. . .dive was absolutely beautiful, but I didn't save my own life (read: Pull) so I had to repeat.________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaMan 0 #8 February 4, 2004 Passed them all - but almost had to repeat AFF3: my altimeter stopped at 6500'...my pull was to be at 5000'. Jumpmaster gave me the pull now signal as I was reaching for the handle . Video showed I was looking at it and aware of what was going on...video paid for itself that day! He jumped with the altimeter on his next jump and grounded it . I bought my own altimeter the next day!Z-Flock 8 Discotec Rodriguez Too bad weapons grade stupidity doesn't lead to sterility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #9 February 4, 2004 i wish you had been my JM when i was doing AFF. Although i passed all levels first time, the thought of failing and having to pay a fortune to repeat was always at the back of my mind. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velo90 0 #10 February 4, 2004 I voted failed more than six. I actually made a proxy vote for someone else I know because I did S/L. The guy I knew needed 22 AFF jumps before he graduated And before the arguement starts again - S/L is better because it builds character Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygirl1 1 #11 February 4, 2004 I learned static line and failed my first practice rip-cord pull.....................failed one 15 second delay....and failed Level 5 aff..........and i have 17 jumps in........so 3 fails.............but I just laugh it off and try again............. skygirl1" Mean people SUCK!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casie 0 #12 February 4, 2004 Passed them all~Porn Kitty WARNING: Goldschlager causes extreme emotional outbursts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 February 4, 2004 Look, its not a failure, its just an opportunity to truely learn a skill that is important, something that you will be building on as you continue as a skydiver. So you have to go do another skydive...HOLY GOD! Not ANOTHER skydive, man anything but that, don't make me go back up there jump out...man I hate that! --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdC 0 #14 February 4, 2004 Failed level 7 - turns. I went the wrong way and could not stop. Jumped again the same day, next load and passed. Big Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #15 February 4, 2004 QuoteLook, its not a failure, its just an opportunity to truely learn a skill that is important, something that you will be building on as you continue as a skydiver. It's an expensive opportunity. I was always worried less about the failing and thinking more about how having to repeat a level would mean less money to spend on cheaper dives later. I failed a crapload of SL PRCP, maybe like 5 or 6 of them several years back. But those jumps were only $45 a pop so I didn't really care. But during AFF I was more scared of failing the level than I was of the dive itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rendezvous 0 #17 February 4, 2004 I wish there were more AFF instructors or DZs that looked at it the same way. I paid full price every time I repeated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #18 February 4, 2004 Failed 2 levels for lack of altitude awareness, go figure, JM deployed. Later made up by doing 2 levels on a jump twice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 8 #19 February 4, 2004 Failed my first 45 Second Delay - that was it. My coach had just gotten her license, & had failed to brief me of the appropraite dive plan, and after she had passed me, the S&TA requested that I do it again. I was a little ticked=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selbbub78 0 #20 February 4, 2004 I didn't fail. Although, I thought I should have failed one of the levels. The instructor told me to just stop being hard on myself. It's all good. "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRHSkyPrincess 0 #21 February 4, 2004 Thanks, Aggie Dave, for reminding folks it's NOT a 'failure', it's an opportunity to learn. Call it a repeat if you must, but not a 'failure'! What matters several hundred jumps out of AFF is what kind of skydiver you are...safe and happy and still jumping. Besides, all the jumps count in the logbook. :)***************** Attitude is everything! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #22 February 4, 2004 I failed my first attempt at Level V and was 1/2 towards failing my 2nd attempt in the air when all of a sudden the light in my head clicked and I've never looked back. I feel I still suck, I just don't suck as much as I used to. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuffit 0 #23 February 4, 2004 8 for 8. No tandems. To include something in the answer, let us know if you did a tandem before you started AFF. Im wondering if that helps anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #24 February 4, 2004 Like anything in life, you just keep going over it to get it right. some people take a little longer, but that's okay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racer42 0 #25 February 4, 2004 Had to repeat one level. It's all about learning.L.A.S.T. #24 Co-Founder Biscuit Brothers Freefly Team Electric Toaster #3 Co-Founder Team Non Sequitor Co-Founder Team Happy Sock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
