skip 0 #1 June 25, 2005 I have had my new wings for a few weeks and though I have not had a chance to jump it yet I have been playing around with packing it. At first I was just putting the bag in and rotating the grommet to the top and line to the bottom as I do with my Javelin container. I noticed when doing this that the bag is so tight I can pick it up about a foot off the ground before it comes out. I then noticed in the manual that this packing method is not even mentioned. So I tried packing lines to the back pad and grommet up, and while it does not give quite the resistance that the other method does, the bag just doesn’t seam to fit into the container as neatly. There is lots of loose fabric between the reserve and the main and the side flaps do not make nice neat corners like they did packing the d-bag grommet up lines down. How do you pack yours? Thanks neilp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skip 0 #2 June 25, 2005 oopps ment to put this in the gear and riggin forum. sorry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCJumper 0 #3 June 25, 2005 Skip, I don't rotate my bag. When i pack it i just leave the grommet straight up. I have the bird man mods done to my rig so closing my rig can be a little tricky. With the corners cut leaving the bag in this orientation gives me an easier chance of keeping the lines straight. Just my way...call or email Ankie. She is always willing to help a customer. Patrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravitational 0 #4 June 26, 2005 Was instructed by my rigger to always have it upright when packed. Having put enough jumps on it, I can actually tell when a packer rotates the bag.------ Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redramdriver 0 #5 June 26, 2005 Ditto...Place the D-Bag into the tray with grommet up, a little fit here fit there stuff...bottom, top, left, right...jump...repeat...So, you bring your beer? Its 5 o'clock somewhere POPS #9344 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 4 #6 June 26, 2005 Just out of curiousity, what does the manufacturer say to do? -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravitational 0 #7 June 26, 2005 Without typing out the whole section of the owners manual - Wings owners manual page 36 'Use whichever method suits your container size and packing style.'------ Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skip 0 #8 June 26, 2005 The manual states that you can do either option 1 or 2 in this poll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #9 June 27, 2005 I asked Ankie about the descrepency in the manual about closing the right or left flap first and got a PM that they're working on a new release of the manual. When I pack, it's with the rotation. (FWIW) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #10 June 27, 2005 It's useful to note that at P49 of the manual the pictures actually show the bag in the orientation you list third in your poll!! (grommet to reserve tray) So apparently all three are fine... I think?? Reminds me of the Javelin packing manual which says close the flaps left-right then shows a picture of them closed right-left (or vice-versa, I forget). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #11 June 27, 2005 Grommet up for me. Brian Germain turned me on to that a while back. I was having a different issue with my new wings about a year ago, and had Ankie give me some tips, and when I was packing grommet up, she didn't say a thing to me.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryand96 0 #12 June 27, 2005 Quote Grommet down – lines to the bottom of the reserve tray, as noted in the manual. This is a misprint in the Wings owners manual. I asked Ankie about it when I got my rig. No one should pack like this. It's just asking for nasty shit to happen. The lines should be at the bottom of the container or against the backpad, never against the reserve tray. I rotate mine so the grommet is on the bottom of the reserve tray. It's just a matter of how it fits best. Some Wings containers fit better either one way or the other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #13 June 27, 2005 I pack grommet up but it defiantely fits slightly better rotated with the grommet against the reserve. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #14 June 27, 2005 I'D also like to get a clarification on the right-left closing grommet order. The drawings show both orders if memory serves me right.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skip 0 #15 June 27, 2005 QuoteThe drawings show both orders if memory serves me right. Memory does serve you correct. The text states right - left, picture shows left right. neilp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #16 June 27, 2005 QuoteI'D also like to get a clarification on the right-left closing grommet order. The drawings show both orders if memory serves me right. I pack mine right-left and I'm pretty sure all the other Wings I've seen have been packed like that too. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedyGonzales 0 #17 June 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteI'D also like to get a clarification on the right-left closing grommet order. The drawings show both orders if memory serves me right. I pack mine right-left and I'm pretty sure all the other Wings I've seen have been packed like that too. Gus A guy at my dropzone packs his left-right. He doesn't seem to have any problems with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamUK 3 #18 June 27, 2005 I believe that the right flap is cloesd first as this gives a more snug fit to the bridle as it is routed to the mouth of the PC pouch... Again, I spotted the difference between the words and the picture in the owners manual and Ankie kept me right... right then left.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #19 June 27, 2005 QuoteI'D also like to get a clarification on the right-left closing grommet order. The drawings show both orders if memory serves me right. Ankie PM'd me last week that Right-Left is the 'proper' method. Until then I had done all of mine (?? 15?) as left-right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelel01 1 #20 June 27, 2005 I always do (and my packers do, before anyone who knows me makes a smart-ass comment ) left-right. Can anyone explain why right-left is "preferred"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #21 June 28, 2005 I've always heard it explained as preferable because there's less chance that the bridle will snag on the right flap as it pulls the pin creating a container lock and high speed mal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dumpster 0 #22 June 28, 2005 Ankie must get that question a zillion time a week - I also called her when I got my new container - Grommit against the reserve tray for this kid. Otherwise, it just don't fit too good! Hey Ryan! - Congrats to you and Kristy!!!! I thought I heard a whole bunch of hearts breaking while I was jumping out at Oz - - !!!! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 3 #23 June 28, 2005 I pack both of my Wings W1-2 EXT containers with the lines to the backpad and the grommet to the pin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflajankie 0 #24 June 28, 2005 QuoteDitto...Place the D-Bag into the tray with grommet up, a little fit here fit there stuff...bottom, top, left, right...jump...repeat... Nope, Bottom top RIGHT left AnkieSkydivers are a bunch of insensitive jerks... And that's why I don't skydive anymore! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflajankie 0 #25 June 28, 2005 Quote I always do (and my packers do, before anyone who knows me makes a smart-ass comment Laugh) left-right. Can anyone explain why right-left is "preferred"? You want the side where you tuck in the bridle to be the tighter one, so pack Right left! AnkieSkydivers are a bunch of insensitive jerks... And that's why I don't skydive anymore! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
kelpdiver 2 #19 June 27, 2005 QuoteI'D also like to get a clarification on the right-left closing grommet order. The drawings show both orders if memory serves me right. Ankie PM'd me last week that Right-Left is the 'proper' method. Until then I had done all of mine (?? 15?) as left-right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #20 June 27, 2005 I always do (and my packers do, before anyone who knows me makes a smart-ass comment ) left-right. Can anyone explain why right-left is "preferred"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #21 June 28, 2005 I've always heard it explained as preferable because there's less chance that the bridle will snag on the right flap as it pulls the pin creating a container lock and high speed mal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #22 June 28, 2005 Ankie must get that question a zillion time a week - I also called her when I got my new container - Grommit against the reserve tray for this kid. Otherwise, it just don't fit too good! Hey Ryan! - Congrats to you and Kristy!!!! I thought I heard a whole bunch of hearts breaking while I was jumping out at Oz - - !!!! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #23 June 28, 2005 I pack both of my Wings W1-2 EXT containers with the lines to the backpad and the grommet to the pin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflajankie 0 #24 June 28, 2005 QuoteDitto...Place the D-Bag into the tray with grommet up, a little fit here fit there stuff...bottom, top, left, right...jump...repeat... Nope, Bottom top RIGHT left AnkieSkydivers are a bunch of insensitive jerks... And that's why I don't skydive anymore! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflajankie 0 #25 June 28, 2005 Quote I always do (and my packers do, before anyone who knows me makes a smart-ass comment Laugh) left-right. Can anyone explain why right-left is "preferred"? You want the side where you tuck in the bridle to be the tighter one, so pack Right left! AnkieSkydivers are a bunch of insensitive jerks... And that's why I don't skydive anymore! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
