ntrprnr 0 #1 October 19, 2005 Hey gang... Stupid question... Let's say I have a new personal trainer. We'll call her, oh, I don't know... Satan. Now let's say Satan spent all morning with me working on my shoulders and biceps. Let's say I wake up tomorrow and realize that it's one of the last, nice, not-too-cold days in the NY area, and I want to jump. Assuming I put my rig on and do a practice touch, the soreness won't stop me from pulling, will it? It'll just be sore - I guess what I'm asking is... Muscle soreness doesn't limit range of motion, does it?_______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #2 October 19, 2005 I can honestly say (from my experience only- training for fights and tennis tourneys) that I have had it affect my range of motion and I also haven't. I didn't jump at the time but I know there was no way I could have pulled after a 3 hour tennis match or 45 min. with my boxing coach. At TFTC we flew from 10-11am and 12-1pm. We all flew at least an hour and a half of that. At the end if you asked me to do a practice pull, I would have looked at you funny. I was so sore my range of motion that day and the next day was inhibited. You may not be affected at all though.Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #3 October 19, 2005 Before you leave for the DZ.. stretch for a good while. You should be able to stretch your way back in to a good range of motion. Then try to to a few push ups. If you're too sore to do any push ups then you're probably too sore to fly your canopy and flare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #4 October 19, 2005 Actually, push-ups are working your chest muscles more than anything. The best thing to do is stretch and make sure you have FULL range of motion. I work out with a personal trainer twice a week and frequently have this problem. I also hurt my shoulder this summer on a botched landing and know that I have to be sure to not aggrevate it. If you can do a pull up you should be ok - if you can fully move your arms from at your side to over your head without any stiffness or pain its fine - but if not - don't jump. In all seriousness, its not worth it. I've jumped with a sore shoulder which I thought would be fine, but the wind pressure affects you in ways you can't imagine on the ground. My motto has always been, if I'm not 100%, I don't jump. JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #5 October 19, 2005 QuoteActually, push-ups are working your chest muscles more than anything. chest, back, biceps, triceps, delts, shoulders.. thats why they're so good. QuoteThe best thing to do is stretch and make sure you have FULL range of motion. Right. QuoteIf you can do a pull up you should be ok - ?? not injured and wondering if I could do a pull up.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #6 October 19, 2005 I am just guessing that you will be so pumped in freefall you will be able to pull even if your arm was broken (it has happened before), let alone soreness. I am not advocating jumping with less than 100% readiness, so perhaps you should do a practice throw or eight of your PC on the ground (does not take much to put your PC back in)... If you can do it on the ground, add a few ounces of adreniline in the sky, and you will be a superhero when you throw it... But then again, what do I know???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #7 October 19, 2005 what they said... plus TURN YOUR CYPRES ON scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outlawphx 1 #8 October 19, 2005 QuoteAssuming I put my rig on and do a practice touch, the soreness won't stop me from pulling, will it? It'll just be sore - I guess what I'm asking is... Muscle soreness doesn't limit range of motion, does it? Remember those stories of crippled old ladies lifting a car with one hand to rescue their children? Adrenaline is your friend, and I guarantee you'll have enough to overcome some muscle soreness to pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #9 October 19, 2005 Quote what they said... plus TURN YOUR CYPRES ON Good advice. Don't think you're 100% but want to skydive anyway? No worries, just turn on your Cypres and you'll be fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #10 October 19, 2005 QuoteQuote what they said... plus TURN YOUR CYPRES ON Good advice. Don't think you're 100% but want to skydive anyway? No worries, just turn on your Cypres and you'll be fine. I think he was being sarcastic.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #11 October 19, 2005 This is why you shouldn't work out. Pain is a sign that something is bad for you. Stop it. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #12 October 19, 2005 QuoteI think he was being sarcastic.... no I wasn't YES I was ... should have thrown in a couple of to make it more clear....scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #13 October 19, 2005 QuoteYES I was .. Sorry. Didn't realize this was the Bonfire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #14 October 19, 2005 I have had post workout soreness bordering on strains before in my biceps tendon and given the difficulty that I had extending my forearm I decided not to jump on those occasions. Why take a chance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LawnDart21 0 #15 October 19, 2005 QuoteMy motto has always been, if I'm not 100%, I don't jump. I can't remember the last time I felt 100%....lol It's been atleast 3 years...........lol Permanent pain in right shoulder & my neck sounds like sand paper grating everytime I turn my head.......lol How late in the season are you guys jumping out at J-town? Blues, Tom -- My other ride is a RESERVE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #16 October 19, 2005 QuoteMy motto has always been, if I'm not 100%, I don't jump. Good point. One injury leads to another injury. I've seen that happen more then once. Sitting out another weekend isn't going to hurt.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #17 October 19, 2005 I bust me left index finger and was worried about my reaction of grabbing the risers. Turns out it hurt like hell and in retrospect it was a silly thing to do1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #18 October 19, 2005 Yeah - I guess the issue for me is, it's not an injury - soreness from a hard workout is different than say, a muscle strain or tear... I'm gonna go tomorrow and see how I feel when I get to the DZ. If I'm not feeling 100%, I won't jump. Easy enough. Thanks, guys. :)_______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #19 October 19, 2005 QuoteYeah - I guess the issue for me is, it's not an injury - soreness from a hard workout is different than say, a muscle strain or tear... I'm gonna go tomorrow and see how I feel when I get to the DZ. If I'm not feeling 100%, I won't jump. Easy enough. Thanks, guys. :) Your muscles are not feeling normal. They need time to re-build after a workout. To me that means they are injured. Why the hurry? If you're going to go out any way, then why post the question? QuoteIf I'm not feeling 100%, I won't jump So does that include a "sore" muscle?May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #20 October 19, 2005 Posted the question to get the knowledge of others - others who have jumped or not jumped with sore muscles. I'm going to take the drive out there - I've driven out there and not jumped more than once - bad weather, winds too high for my liking, etc. If I go out there and feel like crap, I won't jump. I was just curious as to other people's responses to the situation. It's information I can take under advisement when I'm standing on the field wondering weighing all the options as to whether I should manifest myself or not._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackpunx 0 #21 October 19, 2005 I used to work out.. And my shoulder always hurt... I tried to work through it but it never got better.. after I stopped working out.. it got better..Long story short.. Now that I started jumping.. My right shoulder has been hurting again.. I have no idea from what.. Im hoping that its not trying to tell me that its getting ready to give out on me.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #22 October 19, 2005 I've jumped plenty of times with sore muscles , but since it's very difficult to know just how sore your muscles are or how much movement you have, it's difficult for anyone to tell you what you should do. I've torn muscles, and I would never jump with a torn muscle, but if they're just sore, I have and would again.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #23 October 19, 2005 Personally, I think it would be stupid to jump if you even slightly doubted or questioned your ability to pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #24 October 20, 2005 My first reaction to your post was also that you'd have the strength to pull. That even if you HAD worked out hard enough that you did not have the required strength (not likely, since you seem able to type. lol), that the hormones involved would pick up more then enough slack. However, "Sure you'll be able to pull!"... is not exactly the advice I want to give a stranger on the net. An interesting question. Personally, I don't think my arms/shoulders/back/whatever would ever be so sore that I would not be able to pull, whithout also being sore enough that I would not be able to stand wearing a rig. You know what I mean? Basically, if it's just the pull you're worried about, you're probably alright. IMO, it takes more effort to pick the rig up and put it on. Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites