flygirl719 0 #1 June 27, 2006 It will be exactly three months from the day I started AFF when I make my 100th jump on July 1st! I'm stoked and feel like I'm on track as far as progression is concerned and I think my instructor does too... (I've mainly focusing on RW, but just started to work some FF positioning over the last couple of weeks.) FUN! FUN! FUN! So here's the question... what's up with all this talk about crossing over to the "darkside?" I mean, I've always been one to hang out over there in real life, so isn't it natural for me to desire flying there as well? Also, I nailed hanging from a 3-way hybrid ONCE, but is it over-zealous of me to want to hang from an even bigger one (so I can include as many bad-asses as possible that helped me get here ) for my 100th? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #2 June 27, 2006 When numbers going up on a skydive so do the risk factors. If you will be hanging from something larger then what is being launched then you better be able to stay in the position after you swing under. You do not want to cork as someone is coming in to dock and cork into them. If you have only nailed it once, Id probally say do it a few more time before trying to do it on a big hybrid.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #3 June 27, 2006 Quotewhat's up with all this talk about crossing over to the "darkside?" Because CrW is a lot of fun. But don't worry, you can do any of the freefall disciplines and still open high for some good "darkside" fun - like downplanes and the like. Just be careful, the older CrW rigs aren't always maintained as FF friendly. and some aren't very RW friendly either for that matter. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #4 June 27, 2006 lol I think both the freefly people and the CRW people are using "darkside". as I understand it, CRW is the darkside and freeflying is not. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #5 June 27, 2006 Although I've been on night "bandit" CRW jumps, are there night bandit free fly jumps now? And for thirty plus years I always thought "BASE" was the darkside? If there is a darkside to skydiving - it's the fleecing of the general public with tandems . . . and in the process, the fact, we lost our souls . . . that's pretty "dark-sideish." NickD BASE 194 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flygirl719 0 #6 June 27, 2006 Quote Id probally say do it a few more time before trying to do it on a big hybrid. Good call... Might as well do somthing I've been practicing, like getting my TRACK ON, so I have a lesser chance of fucking up my special jump. Quote CRW is the darkside and freeflying is not I was referring to FF, but CRW seems pretty freaking scary to me!!! Why mess with a perfectly good canopy!?!? Quote . . . and in the process, the fact, we lost our souls . . . that's pretty "dark-sideish." That's pretty intense Nick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #7 June 27, 2006 QuoteIf there is a darkside to skydiving - it's the fleecing of the general public with tandems . . . and in the process, the fact, we lost our souls . . . that's pretty "dark-sideish." Have I told you lately that I love you, Nick? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #8 June 27, 2006 100 in three months? Obsessive-compulsive much? Congrats! Weather permitting, my 100th is Saturday._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flygirl719 0 #9 June 28, 2006 Quote 100 in three months? Obsessive-compulsive much? Hmm... I always want MORE of the stuff I like whether it's good or bad for me: -Beer/Booze/Wine -Sex/Drugs/Rock-n-Roll -etc... BUT I've never wanted anything more than SKYDIVING! My Dad, who flipped out during my AFF phase and just saw me for the first time this year -looked at me and said, "skydiving agrees with you Kim." So, it must be a good thing and if that's what OCD does for me, then I'm going to keep doing it! Hope the weather permits for your 100th! Congrat's! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 13 #10 June 28, 2006 QuoteCRW seems pretty freaking scary to me!!! Why mess with a perfectly good canopy!?!? That's why you should avoid it at all costs... Kevin_____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #11 June 28, 2006 I prefer high speed CRW nothign like linking up elliptical HP cnapies Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 13 #12 June 28, 2006 Quotenothign like linking up elliptical HP cnapies It's certainly an interesting concept. Have you been able to do anything other than center docks ? I'd love to see a diamond or some other offset formation built with HP ellips. The Canopy Formation competition at the Nationals was changed to add a 2-way event to encourage high-performance canopy pilots to enter and show their expertise. After talking quite a bit about said expertise, sadly none entered the competition. It seems that flying within sight of each other and kicking an occasional pilot chute was what they considered "CRW". Kevin_____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sprtdth 0 #13 June 30, 2006 I was referring to FF, but CRW seems pretty freaking scary to me!!! Why mess with a perfectly good canopy!?!? __________________________________________________ 1. Obviously you have never looked that closely at a CRW rig, far from perfect. 2. Gives "wanna caress some nylon" a whole new meaning. 3. Go to Lodi and get with Cheryl or Marcie or Sharon. They'll show it ain't "that" scaryCRW Skies Frank CRW Diva #58 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 192 #14 June 30, 2006 Quote I was referring to FF, but CRW seems pretty freaking scary to me!!! Why mess with a perfectly good canopy!?!? Because the skills that come with CRW expertise can save your life. You think "swoopers" are ace canopy pilots? Compared to your average CRW dog, they're hacks. When was the last time you heard of a CRW dog dying under a perfectly good open canopy? If you spend some time under the tutelage of someone skilled in CRW during your first 100 jumps, it can help you stay alive after you have gold wings. Freeflying teaches to fly head-down. CRW teaches you to fly heads-up. Do yourself a favor and learn the basics of intentional entanglements. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blondebombshell 0 #15 June 30, 2006 Quote100 in three months? Obsessive-compulsive much? I made my 100th last weekend after only 3 months, fair play to you girlie!Congrats, have a good one, and dont pull too low like i did. 1000ft is NOT a good altitude to be at when you reach for your toggles... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blondebombshell 0 #16 June 30, 2006 Quotelol I think both the freefly people and the CRW people are using "darkside". as I understand it, CRW is the darkside and freeflying is not. Freeflying: darkside CRW: even darker side Youve all overlooked the darkest side of all: tandem mastering Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #17 June 30, 2006 QuoteIt will be exactly three months from the day I started AFF when I make my 100th jump on July 1st! A jump a day keeps the doctor away.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #18 June 30, 2006 QuoteFreeflying: darkside CRW: even darker side oooooh, that's really gonna hurt the newbie wannabe freeflyers with ego issues. Of course, the good FFers won't care either way, they are having too much fun. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noname 0 #19 June 30, 2006 QuoteI was referring to FF, but CRW seems pretty freaking scary to me!!! Why mess with a perfectly good canopy!?!? c'mon girl, you know you wanna bump some end cells Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #20 June 30, 2006 I could be wrong, but I think I've seen some video of the PD guys doing CRW on HP canopies. They also do alot of really wicked manouvering around cliffs and forests on mountains. Not to mention team swooping. These guys are definately really comfortable around other canopies and objects in the sky. (Of course it is mostly their own team they are around in the videos, not an Otter load full of wildly different experience and wingloads) But, I'm not sure those guys are hacks in any discipline. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flygirl719 0 #21 June 30, 2006 Quote Because CrW is a lot of fun. But don't worry, you can do any of the freefall disciplines and still open high for some good "darkside" fun - like downplanes and the like. Just be careful, the older CrW rigs aren't always maintained as FF friendly. and some aren't very RW friendly either for that matter. Hey, not to get you off the CRW topic, but I never said ANYTHING about it. We've got some kick-ass CRW people at our DZ and when I'm ready to begin exploring another discipline, I'll definitely reach out to them, as they have already offered to take me up. But for now, I'm going to try to turn points more consistently with the awesome RW folks at our DZ while working on some FF positioning with the other bad-ass fliers per my instructor's direction. I'm also heading down to a camp next weekend, which will include canopy control, RW and some FF instruction in the tunnel! Coolio? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 June 30, 2006 QuoteHey, not to get you off the CRW topic, but I never said ANYTHING about it. Sure you did - the title reference the "Darkside". That's CrW...... You're funny. I was mocking the use of 'darkside' as it was hijacked by wannabe freeflyers that want to feel 'edgy'. i wasn't mocking you, just the stereotype wannabes (it's a vague definition and going to extinction really). CrW was darkside long before ff existed. I'm a big fan of learning all the disciplines you can bear to. and being decent at all of them and picking one that you want to be very good at. (but wingsuits make me more nervous than toepicks, I'll wait awhile for that.) Sounds you are on the same track to be an all around skydiver. Good for you. They are all great fun. wanna see some really fast RW? play the video referenced in the url below - the russians just kicked some serious butt. The link is to skyleague, but on that page is another link to the actual video - you need DivX player installed though Another cool site is the VRW video archives - I don't have the link handy, but that's great stuff and the wave of the future lots of crw and canopy swooping vids out there too http://www.skyleague.com/pages/news/showArticles.php?story=455 ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HydroGuy 0 #23 June 30, 2006 QuoteAnd for thirty plus years I always thought "BASE" was the darkside? Get in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flygirl719 0 #24 June 30, 2006 Thanks Bill. I'll let you know my drug of choice when I find it... Quote Made my 100th last weekend after only 3 months, fair play to you girlie! Back-atcha! Quote c'mon girl, you know you wanna bump some end cells Only your end-cell woman See you tomorrow! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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