chuckakers 370 #176 September 10, 2012 I was wrong. He lived. http://newsok.com/oklahoma-skydiver-breaks-leg-in-rough-landing/article/3708577Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredex 0 #177 September 10, 2012 QuoteI was wrong. He lived. http://newsok.com/oklahoma-skydiver-breaks-leg-in-rough-landing/article/3708577 Same guy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 370 #178 September 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteI was wrong. He lived. http://newsok.com/oklahoma-skydiver-breaks-leg-in-rough-landing/article/3708577 Same guy? yesChuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_K 0 #179 September 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI was wrong. He lived. http://newsok.com/oklahoma-skydiver-breaks-leg-in-rough-landing/article/3708577 Same guy? yes Damn. You tried, you all tried... what a shame. Was he at a different DZ and on that Velo? I.e. did he change canopies at all and did he move his jumping elsewhere so as to be able to keep being reckless? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksimsf 0 #180 September 11, 2012 flying Velo it's just like driving a STI/Evo/Z - all kids want to do that because it's cool. but cars does have an airbags - rigs don't. If someone is dumb enough not to learn from some one else mistakes - well he is the part of the natural selection.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #181 September 11, 2012 QuoteI was wrong. He lived. He survived THAT jump... Give him and his mad skills more time grasshopper."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #182 September 11, 2012 QuoteI was wrong. He lived. The lesson here is one that's really hard to teach to the new guys because they never want to believe that it's true. The lesson is that just because you get away with something once, or in this case for 5 months, doesn't mean that you made the right choice in the first place. In too many cases, guys will look at one or two successful (non-injury) jumps, and call that 'proof' that they made a good choice, and that's just not true. All that shows is that you 'got away with it' for those few jumps, not that it was indeed a good choice. So back in April this guy had 280 jumps and wasn't ready for a Velo, and now, when had another 5 months worth of jumps (which equals what in KS, 150 at most?) he still wasn't ready with 450 jumps. Even if his first jump on a Velo was when he had 450 jumps, that's just too much canopy for that number of jumps, and there are many, many better choices for jumpers with that level of experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #183 September 11, 2012 agreed, velo 111 is too big of a canopy for the guy.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 100 #184 September 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteI was wrong. He lived. He survived THAT jump... Give him and his mad skills more time grasshopper. My experience is that a femur is usually followed by a permanent introduction to bowling. Not many come back for a second bite at the cherry.My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LloydDobbler 2 #185 September 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI was wrong. He lived. http://newsok.com/oklahoma-skydiver-breaks-leg-in-rough-landing/article/3708577 Same guy? yes But the real question on everyone's mind... Who had September 9th?Signatures are the new black. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #186 September 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI was wrong. He lived. http://newsok.com/oklahoma-skydiver-breaks-leg-in-rough-landing/article/3708577 Same guy? yes But the real question on everyone's mind... Who had September 9th? He's not dead. It's called Bounce Bingo, not Got Hurt Bingo.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LloydDobbler 2 #187 September 11, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I was wrong. He lived. http://newsok.com/oklahoma-skydiver-breaks-leg-in-rough-landing/article/3708577 Same guy? yes But the real question on everyone's mind... Who had September 9th? He's not dead. It's called Bounce Bingo, not Got Hurt Bingo. True story...and I even thought about that as I was posting it. Still, perhaps we should revise the rules. Seems there ought to be a small payout of the pool for someone who called the day of the (first) femur. (Kinda like getting 5 numbers correct, but not the Powerball). Signatures are the new black. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #188 September 11, 2012 Quote True story...and I even thought about that as I was posting it. Still, perhaps we should revise the rules. Seems there ought to be a small payout of the pool for someone who called the day of the (first) femur. (Kinda like getting 5 numbers correct, but not the Powerball). I'm just thinking... Maybe his Velo is available? We can always use more names on the list? Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #189 September 11, 2012 Does anyone know any facts about this incident other than his canopy? Or is it the usual dz.com canopy nazi feeding frenzy based on no information?"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 100 #190 September 11, 2012 Quotecanopy nazi feeding frenzy Still touchy about the canopy advice tendered to you for exactly the same reasons, about a year or so ago huh!!. And still bulletproof. Well done.My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #191 September 11, 2012 QuoteQuotecanopy nazi feeding frenzy Still touchy about the canopy advice tendered to you for exactly the same reasons, about a year or so ago huh!!. And still bulletproof. Well done. Way to totally ignore (and prove) my point. Not bulletproof, but not injured."The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 100 #192 September 11, 2012 QuoteWay to totally ignore (and prove) my point. You come on here, and call people who sound warnings and give advice to inexperienced jumpers, for their own safety "canopy nazis". After resisting all efforts to educate you on the same issue not long ago, when you were similarly inexperienced. And you are surprised??. QuoteNot bulletproof, but not injured. Yet. But of course you take that as proof of your skill. Just like Sangi and the guy this thread is about. I wish you luck.My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #193 September 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteNot bulletproof, but not injured. Yet. But of course you take that as proof of your skill. Just like Sangi and the guy this thread is about. I wish you luck. So at what number of jumps will I be unlucky to be injured vs. being a dickhead who was going too fast in canopy progression"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #194 September 11, 2012 Quote Does anyone know any facts about this incident other than his canopy? That would be the incidents forum. This forum is for discussing General Skydiving issues like "Canopy Nazism". Quote Or is it the usual dz.com canopy nazi feeding frenzy based on no information? So, are you saying you're interested in his old Velo? I think I saw it posted in the classifieds... "Used Velo, very small/cool, jumped once - never landed, slight stain". You lost this battle once! Why go down that road again?Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #195 September 11, 2012 Quote So at what number of jumps will I be unlucky to be injured vs. being a dickhead who was going too fast in canopy progression It will never be "unlucky." At some point it will progress from "shouldn't have been doing that, didn't know what he was doing" to "He fucked up. He should have known better." Dunno the exact numbers, but probably somewhere over 1k. And yes, I know you devote most (all?) of your jumps to canopy flight."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #196 September 11, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Not bulletproof, but not injured. Yet. But of course you take that as proof of your skill. Just like Sangi and the guy this thread is about. I wish you luck. So at what number of jumps will I be unlucky to be injured vs. being a dickhead who was going too fast in canopy progression Once a dickhead always a dickhead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #197 September 11, 2012 Quote Once a dickhead always a dickhead. Hey... some of us are proud to live by those words! Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 370 #198 September 11, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Not bulletproof, but not injured. Yet. But of course you take that as proof of your skill. Just like Sangi and the guy this thread is about. I wish you luck. So at what number of jumps will I be unlucky to be injured vs. being a dickhead who was going too fast in canopy progression Once a dickhead always a dickhead. You know, when Spence is right, he's right.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #199 September 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteNot bulletproof, but not injured. Yet. But of course you take that as proof of your skill. Just like Sangi and the guy this thread is about. I wish you luck. So at what number of jumps will I be unlucky to be injured vs. being a dickhead who was going too fast in canopy progression I never broke anything and never had to have any surgeries due to swooping or skydiving in general.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 100 #200 September 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNot bulletproof, but not injured. Yet. But of course you take that as proof of your skill. Just like Sangi and the guy this thread is about. I wish you luck. So at what number of jumps will I be unlucky to be injured vs. being a dickhead who was going too fast in canopy progression I never broke anything and never had to have any surgeries due to swooping or skydiving in general. Maybe you approached it with a bit more forethought and planning, and didn't overestimate your ability or mad skillz, at the same time underestimating the risk.. Or maybe someone gave you a boot in the arse earlier in your career. Or maybe you just got lucky. But as long as you skydive, it'll still be on the cards.My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
