brenthutch 383 #1 Posted February 3, 2022 Socialism Capitalism 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #2 February 4, 2022 1933 book burning Nazis 2022 book burning America 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #3 February 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: 1933 book burning Nazis 2022 book burning America And it's sad that the people in that bottom pic aren't bright enough to see the parallels. Or they are and it's intentional. Either way - these are not good people. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #4 February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stumpy said: And it's sad that the people in that bottom pic aren't bright enough to see the parallels. Or they are and it's intentional. Either way - these are not good people. They can't see the parallels, because they don't read books. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #5 February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, ryoder said: They can't see the parallels, because they don't read books. Trump supporters enjoy hurting people and seeing people hurt... As long as they're the 'right' people'. They've even been quoted saying so.https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ndege 0 #6 February 4, 2022 Apparently they also don't know the difference between Socialism and Communism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #7 February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, ndege said: Apparently they also don't know the difference between Socialism and Communism. What does the second S in the USSR stand for? I forgot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 78 #8 February 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: What does the second S in the USSR stand for? I forgot. That's as meaningful as asking what the D stands for in DPRK. At this point I could also throw in the U in USA. Edited February 4, 2022 by okalb 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #9 February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: What does the second S in the USSR stand for? I forgot. What does the D in DPRK stand for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ndege 0 #10 February 4, 2022 You might want to read up on the differences, unless those books were also burned. Stupidity can be excused, but willful ignorance less so, although recently it seems to be a plus with some people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #11 February 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: What does the D in DPRK stand for? Democratic….and what a democracy! The Kims are so popular they routinely get 100% of the vote! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #12 February 4, 2022 More socialism, courtesy of Venezuela Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #13 February 4, 2022 2 hours ago, ndege said: Apparently they also don't know the difference between Socialism and Communism. To republicans both of those mean exactly the same thing - "that which is bad." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #14 February 4, 2022 27 minutes ago, billvon said: To republicans both of those mean exactly the same thing - "that which is bad." Except Trump wanted more immigrants to come from Norway. You know, a 'nice country', not a 'shithole'. And also a rather socialist regime. Of course, idiots who confuse strong man totalitarianism, or communism with 'socialism' don't think so, mainly because Norway is successful. https://erlendkulanderkvitrud.medium.com/sorry-libertarians-but-scandinavia-is-indeed-socialist-5e018145e5f4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #16 February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said: Except Trump wanted more immigrants to come from Norway. You know, a 'nice country', not a 'shithole'. He also apparently approves of Czechoslovakia and Slovenia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #17 February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, ryoder said: He also apparently approves of Czechoslovakia Which is interesting since Czechoslovakia ceased to exist in 1993. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #18 February 5, 2022 5 hours ago, brenthutch said: More socialism... Good to know you're going to refuse your social security and medicare. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #19 February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, GeorgiaDon said: Good to know you're going to refuse your social security and medicare. Well I didn’t get any American Rescue Plan $$…so I am used to putting into much more than I am getting out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 31 #20 February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Except Trump wanted more immigrants to come from Norway. You know, a 'nice country', not a 'shithole'. And also a rather socialist regime. What are you implying by this ? ..that migrants from other countries should not be welcome if that country is alleged to be either socialist or communist ? Is it inconceivable to you that Trump (or the 'right' for that matter) would be aware that all migrants are not necessarily responsible for the type of government in their country of origin? I'm not quite following why you would find it strange for Trump to welcome migrants from Norway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 31 #21 February 5, 2022 5 hours ago, billvon said: To republicans both of those mean exactly the same thing - "that which is bad." Certainly both words have specific, and different, definitions. In a broader context both have a rather negative track record of success. As you're generally critical of republicans; Would I be fair to assume that you don't regard both as 'bad'? From your previous posts I expect you're comfortable with a measure of socialism, perhaps even 100% socialist government? Is there a 'line in the sand' that you have in mind? A balance whereby you won't seem hypocritical of supporting some socialist ideas but not others? What is the defining characteristic of a socialist idea that makes it 'good' or 'bad', in your view? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #22 February 5, 2022 11 hours ago, brenthutch said: Well I didn’t get any American Rescue Plan $$…so I am used to putting into much more than I am getting out. OK, so you're a conditional socialist. When you benefit socialism is good. If anybody else benefits it's bad. Here are a few other socialist aspects of the USA. Which do you think should be eliminated? Police; fire departments; public education (K-12, state universities); interstate highways; municipal water; water (sewage) treatment plants; municipal/state/national parks; FEMA; air traffic control; etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #23 February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, GeorgiaDon said: OK, so you're a conditional socialist. Most republicans are socialists for all the programs that benefit them. Heck, none other than right wing icon Ayn Rand became a socialist when she started running out of money, and wanted her sweet, sweet government checks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #24 February 5, 2022 Show me a socialist government that is working or has worked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #25 February 5, 2022 Any discussion of "socialism" is pointless as long as the left & right don't even use the same meaning for the word. Left wing definition: Democracy, capitalist economy, with social safety-net programs. Right wing definition: Autocracy, with command economy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites