JoeWeber 2,299 #26 January 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, brenthutch said: AKA the Gavin Newsom theme song. Seriously man, you need to get a job. If nothing else put a nail in a stick and go pick up trash. You'll feel better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #27 January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, gowlerk said: I'm sure it's funny, but not available in my country. Nor in Costa Rica where I am right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #28 January 19, 2022 (edited) Privilege doesn't mean the same thing everywhere. My parents were working class - my mother left school at 13 and my father at 14 to get jobs to help their families. My privilege was to have been born at a time when the government of the UK thought that education for all was important, and teachers in state schools were well paid regardless of where they taught, If you showed sufficient promise the state paid for your entire education as far as you could go - in my case PhD from Cambridge. Didn't matter where you came from or who your parents were (or were not). Unfortunately the Thatcher revolution changed that. Edited January 19, 2022 by kallend Editted fur fat fingered spelin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #29 January 19, 2022 This should properly be called the White man caste thread. If you're Brown, had parents who gave you FAS, were crack addicts, etc. Just play your hand. McDonald's is looking for midnight to four p.m. help. If you can't afford a good lawyer there are many private prisons ready to serve you baloney sandwiches. For the rich white college prep rapist there is parole. Then on to the prestigious Wall street job. There will always be the anti-Woke old White man arguing anything contrary is favoritism. He needs low caste servants to clean the hull of his Feadship yacht. Upkeep on those things is onerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #30 January 19, 2022 The songwriter John Gorka has an interesting commentary on privilege, and being ignorant of that privilege. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #31 January 21, 2022 On 1/18/2022 at 9:48 PM, kallend said: Privilege doesn't mean the same thing everywhere. My parents were working class - my mother left school at 13 and my father at 14 to get jobs to help their families. My privilege was to have been born at a time when the government of the UK thought that education for all was important, and teachers in state schools were well paid regardless of where they taught, If you showed sufficient promise the state paid for your entire education as far as you could go - in my case PhD from Cambridge. Didn't matter where you came from or who your parents were (or were not). Unfortunately the Thatcher revolution changed that. So after Cambridge is where your privilege ended? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #32 January 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, airdvr said: So after Cambridge is where your privilege ended? Reading comprehension is important. You should try it instead of inventing straw-men. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #33 January 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, kallend said: Reading comprehension is important. You should try it instead of inventing straw-men. Was your privilege only extended to white Brits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #34 January 21, 2022 20 hours ago, kallend said: Reading comprehension is important. You should try it instead of inventing straw-men. Glad you saw where I was going with that. I'd say you've enjoyed your share of privilege. Ready to get rid of all of your material stuff? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,122 #35 January 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, airdvr said: Glad you saw where I was going with that. I'd say you've enjoyed your share of privilege. Ready to get rid of all of your material stuff? Acknowledging privilege doesn't mean giving up things you need. It doesn't mean giving up most of what you want but don't need. But that smug sense of satisfaction that you did it all? Yeah, that has to go. As does the feeling that others could do just as well as you did, if you can. Back in the 70's I put myself through a private college for the last two years. Yes, private. And came out with minimal loans. My level of sympathy for anyone not either disabled or raising a family who said they couldn't afford college was zero. However, the advantages that I did have didn't occur to me: I'd already started, had a guarantee of being able to return and was familiar with the atmosphere and how to navigate financial aid in a much easier climate I came from a family with a strong sense of college, and knew that if things didn't work out it'd be OK and they'd support me Finding a good-paying job was easy. Through no hard work of my own, I was an intelligent, good-looking 19-year-old woman with bilingual skills in Houston. Not to mention that I was a student at the name school in town I still think that too many people are unwilling to return to college-level living standards for things they care about, but then what's considered standard now is so much more than I had when I was a kid it's not even funny. And we were relatively well off (especially when we were overseas). Wendy P. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #36 January 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Acknowledging privilege doesn't mean giving up things you need. It doesn't mean giving up most of what you want but don't need. But that smug sense of satisfaction that you did it all? Yeah, that has to go. As does the feeling that others could do just as well as you did, if you can. Back in the 70's I put myself through a private college for the last two years. Yes, private. And came out with minimal loans. My level of sympathy for anyone not either disabled or raising a family who said they couldn't afford college was zero. However, the advantages that I did have didn't occur to me: I'd already started, had a guarantee of being able to return and was familiar with the atmosphere and how to navigate financial aid in a much easier climate I came from a family with a strong sense of college, and knew that if things didn't work out it'd be OK and they'd support me Finding a good-paying job was easy. Through no hard work of my own, I was an intelligent, good-looking 19-year-old woman with bilingual skills in Houston. Not to mention that I was a student at the name school in town I still think that too many people are unwilling to return to college-level living standards for things they care about, but then what's considered standard now is so much more than I had when I was a kid it's not even funny. And we were relatively well off (especially when we were overseas). Wendy P. Hi Wendy, Re: Back in the 70's I put myself through a private college for the last two years. Interesting; I did that very thing from 1969 - 1971. Re: And came out with minimal loans. Due to the GI Bill & a working wife, I did it with no debt. Back in those days teachers got paid once a month; so we had to budget. One month, we had zero money, 5 days till she got paid again, & $0.12 in our bank account. We had food in the apartment & gas in the car. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #37 January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, airdvr said: Glad you saw where I was going with that. I'd say you've enjoyed your share of privilege. Ready to get rid of all of your material stuff? Who is saying that he should? He doesn't pretend that he didn't have advantages. How many Trumpettes say "I didn't have any privilege!!!! I did it ALL myself!!!" Hell, Trump himself thinks he's a 'self made' man. I'm quite happy that I'm an adult white male. It gives me all sorts of nifty advantages. I don't pretend otherwise. As Ryoder noted, there's not one white person that would trade places with Chris Rock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #38 January 21, 2022 47 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: How many Trumpettes say "I didn't have any privilege!!!! I did it ALL myself!!!" Hell, Trump himself thinks he's a 'self made' man. He's explained several times that he got no help at all from his parents; heck, he only got a small million-dollar loan from his father, like everyone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #39 January 21, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, billvon said: He's explained several times that he got no help at all from his parents; heck, he only got a small million-dollar loan from his father, like everyone else. Professor at his Alma Mater asked her students how much the average American makes. 25% Pegged that as a six figure number, with one of them thinking it was $800,000. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/20/wharton-students-wages-salary-twitter-strohminger/ Edited January 21, 2022 by SkyDekker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #40 January 22, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, SkyDekker said: Professor at his Alma Mater asked her students how much the average American makes. 25% Pegged that as a six figure number, with one of them thinking it was $800,000. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/20/wharton-students-wages-salary-twitter-strohminger/ Which says allot about the worthlessness of a Wharton degree. Nobody should forget that trump thought Greenland could be bought like any other piece of land. Together with all his other idiotic ideas. Imagine if Brent decided to go to Wharton. In six months he could graduate with a PhDs in astrophysics and another in environmental studies. Given what he knows about both now. Edited January 22, 2022 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,122 #41 January 22, 2022 Wharton is a fine school; it gets an additional patina because its graduates come out with the kinds of connections that lead to wealth. Of course, connections is also how some people get in. I’m told B-schools are largely rated on the average starting salary of their graduating MBA’s, making it clear that connections really is one of the things that you’re getting with your tuition. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #42 January 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Wharton is a fine school; it gets an additional patina because its graduates come out with the kinds of connections that lead to wealth. Of course, connections is also how some people get in. I’m told B-schools are largely rated on the average starting salary of their graduating MBA’s, making it clear that connections really is one of the things that you’re getting with your tuition. Wendy P. As usual you're probably right Wendy. trump needed those connections for his Rolodex. You youngsters will have to look that one up. Its the analog predecessor to the smartphone.But I digress. All of those connections were the investors that trump screwed over to reach his first billion. Before he lost it all in the multiple bankruptcies. Now of course he's scraping the bottom of the barrel. His new media venture company called "TRUTH" is valued at $4 billion. The name of course he stole from his old Soviet comrades and their news service. I'll give him credit however. He's learnt that there is a sucker born every minute from his casino business. Or was it from his dozen bankruptcies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #43 January 22, 2022 18 hours ago, airdvr said: Glad you saw where I was going with that. I'd say you've enjoyed your share of privilege. Ready to get rid of all of your material stuff? You really post the most stupid stuff. My "privilege" was to develop more axons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #44 January 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, kallend said: You really post the most stupid stuff. My "privilege" was to develop more axons. More or ones with less resistance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #45 January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, kallend said: You really post the most stupid stuff. My "privilege" was to develop more axons. Golly perfessor. Yer right! Wish I'da grown me some more of those axons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,122 #46 January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: More or ones with less resistance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 771 #47 January 22, 2022 I’ve been lucky enough to work in quite a few different countries and right now I’m sitting in a pub in Turkey, headed back to DFW tomorrow after spending a week with a CM here who’s building a product I’m developing at work. Being over here reminded me a lot of my time in South America, as in both cases I was working with some amazingly smart and talented people, and I was cognizant of the fact that they’re at least every bit as capable as I am and in many cases much more so, but we’re accustomed to very different standards of living purely due to me having the dumb luck of being born in Canada. I don’t feel guilty for what I have as I’ve worked hard for every bit of it, but I’m sure as fuck not cocky about it either 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #48 January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, lippy said: I’ve been lucky enough to work in quite a few different countries and right now I’m sitting in a pub in Turkey, headed back to DFW tomorrow after spending a week with a CM here who’s building a product I’m developing at work. Being over here reminded me a lot of my time in South America, as in both cases I was working with some amazingly smart and talented people, and I was cognizant of the fact that they’re at least every bit as capable as I am and in many cases much more so, but we’re accustomed to very different standards of living purely due to me having the dumb luck of being born in Canada. I don’t feel guilty for what I have as I’ve worked hard for every bit of it, but I’m sure as fuck not cocky about it either Hi lippy, And, so have I. And, I do hope that I am sure as fuck not cocky about it either Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #49 January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, lippy said: I’ve been lucky enough to work in quite a few different countries . . . . I was cognizant of the fact that they’re at least every bit as capable as I am and in many cases much more so, but we’re accustomed to very different standards of living purely due to me having the dumb luck of being born in Canada. Yep. And I think those two have a lot to do with each other. A lot of people never see the world outside their own community, and thus (like the college students who think most people make six figures) are easily misled into thinking that everyone is like the people they know. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #50 January 24, 2022 (edited) On 1/22/2022 at 5:59 AM, Phil1111 said: Nobody should forget that trump thought Greenland could be bought like any other piece of land. Some interesting stories out about that. That whole idea was based on a letter that was sent to Senator Tom Cotton. He thought that letter came form the Danish PM. It indicated Denmark's willingness to sell the island. Danish Intelligence now claims that letter was a forgery, made up by the Russians. Showed Russia how easily manipulated that administration was. Edited January 24, 2022 by SkyDekker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites