Woke is a Joke

[kallend 1,644]

15 hours ago, richravizza said:

Find a new virtue signal, you've been using that line for years. I'm sure it's a winner in your circle, but it old and crusty.

Besides the Unionized monopoly of public education is what makes the poorly educated of this Nation, such a smart man should know why half of all kids are below grade level in nearly every subject.Educate me.

I didn't teach in a public school so I have no more insight than anyone else.

Has Trump reversed course on loving the poorly educated?  If not, then it's as true now as when he first said it.

 

[JoeWeber 2,324]

19 hours ago, richravizza said:

Besides the Unionized monopoly of public education is what makes the poorly educated of this Nation, such a smart man should know why half of all kids are below grade level in nearly every subject.Educate me.

The effort would be a waste of time. You don't want to be educated, and it shows in every post you make.

[Phil1111 913]

On 8/26/2023 at 12:53 AM, richravizza said:

...Besides the Unionized monopoly of public education is what makes the poorly educated of this Nation, such a smart man should know why half of all kids are below grade level in nearly every subject.Educate me.

Is it unions or monopolies you have a hard on for?

On 8/26/2023 at 4:48 PM, kallend said:

I didn't teach in a public school so I have no more insight than anyone else.

Has Trump reversed course on loving the poorly educated?  If not, then it's as true now as when he first said it.

 

Twenty five percent of schools are private in the US. trump and republicans are doing the best to ensure Jesus is taught in most of them thanks to vouchers etc. Currently the funding gap in the US can be as much a $6,000 per pupil annually.

On 8/26/2023 at 8:10 PM, JoeWeber said:

The effort would be a waste of time. You don't want to be educated, and it shows in every post you make.

trump is doing everything possible to lay a permanent voting base of support for himself and republicans in the US

Interactive map of US showing underfunded districts. Florida is a hotspot for disparities in school funding.

[kallend 1,644]

8 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Is it unions or monopolies you have a hard on for?

Twenty five percent of schools are private in the US. trump and republicans are doing the best to ensure Jesus is taught in most of them thanks to vouchers etc. Currently the funding gap in the US can be as much a $6,000 per pupil annually.

trump is doing everything possible to lay a permanent voting base of support for himself and republicans in the US

Interactive map of US showing underfunded districts. Florida is a hotspot for disparities in school funding.

Well, that chart makes it quite clear who loves the poorly educated.

[richravizza 25]

On 8/25/2023 at 11:38 PM, jakee said:

Right, because the solution to rich northerners paying you shit and telling you what to do is to cut taxes and cut welfare. Yeah, can’t see where that would go wrong.
 

Try this instead if you want to achieve something that doesn’t just make the rich men richer.

Is that, what you got out of my tune? ....  Join a Union. LOL

 I was once a member of a brotherhood, The UAW.As per the union contract  we built the first five C-17 cargo planes, and as per union contract 2,000 of us were escorted to the door. The U.A.W. for us meant; Unemployed Aerospace Workers. Some 20 years latter the plane is no longer in production as is the Union.

I find your replies Idealist, rather than realist.

The rich men north of Richmond are in Washington DC, I think we can agree there

Enjoy a different perspective remix 

The Squeaky up tempo is great in this one too

 

 

[richravizza 25]

On 8/26/2023 at 4:54 AM, jakee said:

The inanity and stupidity of this vehement opposition to cashless bail never ceases to amaze me. It’s the perfect example of how the American right can be manipulated into opposing anything at all if they’re told it’s a liberal idea. 
 

For clarity, the purpose of the entire bail system is to let people out of jail. The only difference is that cashless bail makes those decisions on the merits of the case, not the contents of a bank account.

 Quite an Idealist approach to criminality. 

 The addicts that just broke into my car at the trailhead for nothing, they had merit and character.I should thank them for my absents here and for the $500 deductible, they don't have.Besides it was a victimless crime.The Liberal mind hive that is SF has been enjoying  those benefits too.I had heard the far right majority {5%} recalled  their DA because of this very same reasons.

 Do you know why there are so many addicts not getting treatment, some say because "it doesn't cost them anything." Besides, heroine is cheap...

 There are rooms were some of them meet.Rare, like skydivers the one in a million that: are at the hand of death unless they did something about it. You will hear a familiar sentiment from those that were arrested. " I wasn't really arrested, I was rescued."

Edited October 1, 2023 by richravizza

[richravizza 25]

On 8/26/2023 at 3:48 PM, kallend said:

 

 

Has Trump reversed course on loving the poorly educated?  If not, then it's as true now as when he first said it.

 

Hope he loves them, I hope you love the poorly educated too.I try to, I really do.I'm awe struck that you don't have any insight into your own industry.In a previous post you mentioned modern day slavery, among school choice advocate it is said "in education, we are slaves to our zip code."

Perhaps we can agree on school choice.

[JerryBaumchen 1,060]

11 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Hope he loves them, I hope you love the poorly educated too.I try to, I really do.I'm awe struck that you don't have any insight into your own industry.In a previous post you mentioned modern day slavery, among school choice advocate it is said "in education, we are slaves to our zip code."

Perhaps we can agree on school choice.

Hi Rich,

Re: in education, we are slaves to our zip code

I do not know what the situation is where you live.  I live in Beaverton, OR.  The Beaverton School Dist allows a child to attend any school within the dist.  If they go to a school out of the area school where they live, then they must provide their own transportation.

Re: Perhaps we can agree on school choice.

I think a student should have a choice of where they want to go to school.  I just as strongly believe that no public money go to a church or private school.

I'm a product of public schooling and think I did OK in life. *

Jerry Baumchen

*  My last two yrs of college were at a Jesuit school; by choice.

Edited October 1, 2023 by JerryBaumchen

[richravizza 25]

On 8/28/2023 at 5:14 PM, Phil1111 said:

Is it unions or monopolies you have a hard on for?

Twenty five percent of schools are private in the US. trump and republicans are doing the best to ensure Jesus is taught in most of them thanks to vouchers etc. Currently the funding gap in the US can be as much a $6,000 per pupil annually.

trump is doing everything possible to lay a permanent voting base of support for himself and republicans in the US

Interactive map of US showing underfunded districts. Florida is a hotspot for disparities in school funding.

 

 Yet, Florida has some of the best outcomes post pandemic.Oh Phill if, if only funding was the issue. I'm sure we would be rushing our kids to LA Chicago and NY public schools.Where the correlation of per pupil costs are the highest, and would assuredly have the causation of highest outcomes.

https://www.fldoe.org/newsroom/latest-news/florida-is-ranked-as-number-one-state-for-education-by-u-s-news-world-report.stml#:~:text=May 4%2C 2023-,Florida is Ranked as Number One State,by U.S. News %26 World Report&text=Tallahassee%2C Fla.%2C May 4,by U.S. News %26 World Report.

 Now a nonagenarian, and one of my favorite authors may give us some insight. "Stupid people can create problems, but it often takes brilliant people to create a real catastrophe." You see, "A high IQ and low information is a very dangerous combination."  Specifically when it comes to both unions and monopolies. You'll see the Progressive Left wants to make the decisions for us, for their own good.

Teachers Unions are politically strongest of the organizations opposed to charter schools.They possess millions of members and make millions in political campaign contributions

An easy read in layman's terms, I hope you'll catch a copy if not, here you can watch interview. 

Or Simply go to 22:59 to an opposing point of your concern.

As for JaJa Jesus being taught, I could care less when our kids can't read or understand that 2+2 cannot equal five, and after a twenty year loss in learning progress in a few short years, we just might see an improvement.

If we teach how to think, with reason and logic.They will figure out for themselves, the moon is not made of cheese. 

[billvon 2,426]

5 minutes ago, richravizza said:

 Yet, Florida has some of the best outcomes post pandemic.

Worst states in public education, 2023:  (ranked by score)

#50 Arizona
#49 Louisiana
#48 Nevada
#47 New Mexico
#46 Alabama
#45 South Carolina
#44 Oklahoma
#43 North Carolina
#42 Florida

 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state
 

[richravizza 25]

4 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Rich,

Re: in education, we are slaves to our zip code

I do not know what the situation is where you live.  I live in Beaverton, OR.  The Beaverton School Dist allows a child to attend any school within the dist.  If they go to a school out of the area school where they live, then they must provide their own transportation.

Re: Perhaps we can agree on school choice.

I think a student should have a choice of where they want to go to school.  I just as strongly believe that no public money go to a church or private school.

I'm a product of public schooling and think I did OK in life. *

Jerry Baumchen

*  My last two yrs of college were at a Jesuit school; by choice.

  It's great we can pick up a conversation, right were we left it years ago. Again, I am happy for you and yours.

Does your school district determine if there is the need for competition. It's a weird concept right , LOL 

You once made the analogy of co2 as blankets on the planet that can't be removed, as so dire.I thought about it.First, we must image the planet in its natural state, a blue and white frozen ball with no blankets.This also means our starting point is a frozen dead planet, as we know it and devoid of co2 blankets.The image gets outlandish once we get to a thousand or two blankets with dinosaurs on them.

 I knew there was something special about you! Thanks for agreeing on choice, and for sharing your Jesuit schooling with me. I admire the concepts of mythos and logos, akin to yin and yang.Perhaps you can ask yourself who would opposes choice in education and why.

[richravizza 25]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Worst states in public education, 2023:  (ranked by score)

#50 Arizona
#49 Louisiana
#48 Nevada
#47 New Mexico
#46 Alabama
#45 South Carolina
#44 Oklahoma
#43 North Carolina
#42 Florida

 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state
 

I'll agree with you.A public education aint worth poo, and Not all boys are blue.

I don't want to disrespect Joeweber in kind, so i'm wondering if you thought this inappropriate, educational or just fattie erotic.

with a southern draw and Deliverance playing in the background, some are being educated to the concept of "pubic education" lol

 

[richravizza 25]

1 hour ago, Slim King said:

The woke Disney streaming maniacs have finally taken a huge chunk out of the parks as I predicted. Lowest visitation in two years....

If someone asks me what woke is, I explain that a single definition would be arbitrary at best, but toxic nonetheless, a regression of society by re-tribalism.

I wonder if your a fan of Victor Davis Hanson he has a family farm not far from me.

If you like the remix's enjoy,I like this one best.

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by richravizza
a remix

[jakee 1,257]

8 hours ago, richravizza said:

 Quite an Idealist approach to criminality. 

Why?

8 hours ago, richravizza said:

The addicts that just broke into my car at the trailhead for nothing, they had merit and character.I should thank them for my absents here and for the $500 deductible, they don't have.Besides it was a victimless crime.The Liberal mind hive that is SF has been enjoying  those benefits too.I had heard the far right majority {5%} recalled  their DA because of this very same reasons.

What does that have to do with cashless bail?

[wmw999 2,146]

4 hours ago, richravizza said:

'll agree with you.A public education aint worth poo, and Not all boys are blue.

Free public education was a critical engine of America’s industrialization and economic dominance. It provided a population that was more qualified than before, so that this (at the time) remote country with huge resources could change its largely rural economy into a world-class one. Roosevelt was a huge proponent for public education.

It’s not perfect, because my mandate it has to serve everyone. But if you look at countries with significantly more two-tiered educational systems, they all have even greater economic division than the US. Unless you think you’re already one of the elites, that’s not opportunity as it has been considered to be in America

Wendy P. 

[billvon 2,426]

13 hours ago, richravizza said:

I'll agree with you.A public education aint worth poo

No.  A public education in a red state may not be worth poo - but public education in many other states is quite good.  When I was at MIT (the hardest STEM school in the country to get into at the time) more than 2/3 of the students came from public schools.  These schools tended to be in Massachusetts, Vermont, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware - because those states spend a lot on their public schools and make education a priority.

Liberals support public education because they know that these are the people who will be voting and leading industries in 20 years, and having an education will make them smarter, better informed people.  Education levels improve outcomes at all levels - decreased suicide risk, lower levels of alcoholism and addiction, higher overall income, higher income at the time that couples have children, lower incarceration rates.  And that's good for society.  

Conservatives oppose public education because educated voters tend to not vote for conservatives, and keeping people ignorant makes them more compliant.  You're not going to be able to convince someone with a BS in any technical field that the Earth is flat - but to a high school dropout, the "round earth theory" is just an opinion.  "If you can't question the science IT'S NOT SCIENCE!"

It's bad for society - suicide rates go up, broken homes are far more common - but it helps conservatives stay in power.  And the worse society gets, the more conservatives can blame liberals for the results of conservative policies.  It's worked for them so far.

As we move into the future, public education will become more and more critical.  China and India pour huge amounts of money into education because they know that in 20 years, these are the people who will make or break China, India and the US.  We are rapidly becoming a country with the highest labor rates in the world and the lowest technical skills in the world - and that's a recipe for disaster.

But hey, at least Trump can blame Biden for it!

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,060]

13 hours ago, richravizza said:

  It's great we can pick up a conversation, right were we left it years ago. Again, I am happy for you and yours.

Does your school district determine if there is the need for competition. It's a weird concept right , LOL 

You once made the analogy of co2 as blankets on the planet that can't be removed, as so dire.I thought about it.First, we must image the planet in its natural state, a blue and white frozen ball with no blankets.This also means our starting point is a frozen dead planet, as we know it and devoid of co2 blankets.The image gets outlandish once we get to a thousand or two blankets with dinosaurs on them.

 I knew there was something special about you! Thanks for agreeing on choice, and for sharing your Jesuit schooling with me. I admire the concepts of mythos and logos, akin to yin and yang.Perhaps you can ask yourself who would opposes choice in education and why.

Hi Rich,

Re:  You once made the analogy of co2 as blankets on the planet that can't be removed

I have over 12k posts, so I do not remember each & everyone.  This one that you refer is very strange to me.  Care to inform me where I said that?  If you cannot or choose not to, please remove it from your post.

Jerry Baumchen

Re:  I knew there was something special about you!

Nope, just another swinging dick in the population.

[SkyDekker 1,141]

On 10/2/2023 at 8:58 AM, billvon said:

Liberals support public education because they know that these are the people who will be voting and leading industries in 20 years, and having an education will make them smarter, better informed people.  Education levels improve outcomes at all levels - decreased suicide risk, lower levels of alcoholism and addiction, higher overall income, higher income at the time that couples have children, lower incarceration rates.  And that's good for society.  

Conservatives oppose public education because educated voters tend to not vote for conservatives, and keeping people ignorant makes them more compliant.  You're not going to be able to convince someone with a BS in any technical field that the Earth is flat - but to a high school dropout, the "round earth theory" is just an opinion.  "If you can't question the science IT'S NOT SCIENCE!"

And yet during the pandemic Republican states offered 66 days more in-person education (equivalent of 432 hours of face-to-face instruction) than Democratic states. That will have a significant impact on the level of education for the students affected. So far educational institutions in Democratic states have made little to no effort to make up that difference.

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On 10/1/2023 at 10:54 PM, jakee said:

Why?

What does that have to do with cashless bail?

We seem to have a cosmic clairvoyance when we converse.

 I joked about the earth quake when my Right was abridged, but it really happened, and Shook me to my core mid keystroke.  All while jumping in SoCal was rained out from the remittance of a hurricane. A first for many, and coined a term....The Hurriquake.

I thought you'd like the genre, and the Libertarian perspective of some realism.

Robert F.Kennedy just experienced the Sacramento Supermajority inspired, cycle of decay.

Just disregard the first 60 seconds, for his account.

Edited November 1, 2023 by richravizza

[richravizza 25]

 

On 10/1/2023 at 10:05 PM, Slim King said:

The woke Disney streaming maniacs have finally taken a huge chunk out of the parks as I predicted. Lowest visitation in two years....

I'm not shorting the Mouse,  I cleared my positions, Igers at the helm, my short trade is done. Unlike Bud, we'll find out if we learned a lesson.LOL Bud went full circle and is now a partner with there founding sponsor. Diana White, Cage fighting and by proxy Trump. In the word of Middle Weight Champ Sean Strickland I'm going to fix the Beer.

Both the UFC and Bud say they have common values.....One Hundred Million of them.

We should celebrate  a 'W' when we get it.

 

[jakee 1,257]

28 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Diana White, 

Is that what she's calling herself now?

[richravizza 25]

1 hour ago, jakee said:

Is that what she's calling herself now?

LOL that's a good one!  Happy Halloween to you.  and a smile back.

Hey. Why was the witch childless?...Because, Her husband had a Holloweenie. LOL

What do you think of the Christopher Columbus Hats this year.I thought the Left and academia canceled him and his dreadful Day. An idealists dream but this realist nightmare of omission of the "Innocent Eleven."

Then again, Italians are just white people.LOL

 to realism and remix. skip the the first :28 sec of lip synch

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by richravizza
a remix

[richravizza 25]

On 10/2/2023 at 3:26 AM, wmw999 said:

Free public education was a critical engine of America’s industrialization and economic dominance. It provided a population that was more qualified than before, so that this (at the time) remote country with huge resources could change its largely rural economy into a world-class one. Roosevelt was a huge proponent for public education.

It’s not perfect, because my mandate it has to serve everyone. But if you look at countries with significantly more two-tiered educational systems, they all have even greater economic division than the US. Unless you think you’re already one of the elites, that’s not opportunity as it has been considered to be in America

Wendy P. 

 I couldn't agree more in your first paragraph.It's the second were we rub.

I'm not in favor of a two tier system either I'm advocating for an alternative for those without or as many tiers as possible.

In a recent survey in Baltimore, 11% of kids knew what 11% was. LOL

Here in California as most in the liberal hive mind, come to the same conclusion as Bill.That it's a hyper partisan issue.But don't bother to look honestly,realistically.

While California didn't make the idiot list, we actually made up 5 of the top 10  least educated cities of our Nation.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/10-most-least-educated-cities-in-america.html

I had to explain to a public educated adult that Christopher Columbus was not a Spanish Colonizer .LOL

[richravizza 25]

1 hour ago, Slim King said:

Disney, The Mouse Betrayed, written in 1998 predicts virtually every aspect of Disneys downfall and WHY!!!!!! WOKE was in the making long  ago and it is as sick as it gets.

Don't read to deep it might make you an angry man, like a woman scorned. 

Did you jump this weekend? It was gorgeous here, had to work Sat. but jumped Sunday.

I recognized a face but now sullen from a month ago, recalling she mentioned "had a Love for Israel".Considering the real atrocities that occured. Searching for humor the well never far from Woke Academia.My mission for smile from her, sealed.Load three a high bred wing// angle, caught my chance.To my right was the Israeli /US dual citizen a beautiful glowing young lady filled with the usual nervous anticipation.  I  leaned in and said;

Did you here about the woke student group, queers for Palestine.She replied with a concerned "No". Yup, they have a sister organization Blacks for the KKK....LOL

Revealing that smile i remember so well, over the drone of runup she yells"where are they?"  Harvard I replied, Havard.

[richravizza 25]

On 10/2/2023 at 8:58 AM, billvon said:

 

Liberals support public education because they know that these are the people who will be voting.

Conservatives oppose public education because educated voters tend to not vote for conservatives, and keeping people ignorant makes them more compliant.  You're not going to be able to convince someone with a BS in any technical field that the Earth is flat - but to a high school dropout, the "round earth theory" is just an opinion.  "If you can't question the science IT'S NOT SCIENCE!"

It's bad for society - suicide rates go up, broken homes are far more common - but it helps conservatives stay in power.  And the worse society gets, the more conservatives can blame liberals for the results of conservative policies.  It's worked for them so far.

As we move into the future, public education will become more and more critical.  China and India pour huge amounts of money into education because they know that in 20 years, these are the people who will make or break China, India and the US.  We are rapidly becoming a country with the highest labor rates in the world and the lowest technical skills in the world - and that's a recipe for disaster.

But hey, at least Trump can blame Biden for it!

 

At least We agree there,and we know where funding for both of them comes from.

Conservatives don't opposes education, we oppose not having a choice.But that's not a concern for Liberals they never seem to be affected by their own policies.You love to project what Conservatives are, you have your evil. While,  shit canning more appropriately excommunicating most of the minority from campus.

"It's bad for society - suicide rates go up, broken homes are far more common - but it helps liberal stay in power.  And the worse society gets, the more liberal can blame conservatives for the results of  progressive policies.  It's worked for them so far."

You should try and reverse engineer your arguments, I do.

 Wow your whipped..How did a STEM MIT grad become so partisan.A Maoist of moral authority, from liberalism to Despotism.

 

A month late..