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The 2020 Election trump v. Biden

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8 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Most all of the POTUS in my lifetime have been fucktards, with the possible exception of Carter...but I think his case shows that you need to be a fucktard to be an effective POTUS.

No they haven't and no you don't. Absolutely class A bullshit.

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1 minute ago, gowlerk said:

Well then, maybe you can see different levels of "fucktardness". On a scale of 1 to 10 what level is say Bush, Obama, and Trump at?

Which Bush?  J/K.  I believe the fundamental difference between Trump and all of the other POTUS is he just blurts out what he's thinking.  He isn't concerned about whether you agree with it or whether it helps or hurts his re-election chances.  I certainly don't go along in lockstep with Trump but I appreciate his willingness to speak frankly.  And to think you guys used to lose it over Bush's misunderestimates.

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3 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Which Bush?  J/K.  I believe the fundamental difference between Trump and all of the other POTUS is he just blurts out what he's thinking.  He isn't concerned about whether you agree with it or whether it helps or hurts his re-election chances.  I certainly don't go along in lockstep with Trump but I appreciate his willingness to speak frankly.  And to think you guys used to lose it over Bush's misunderestimates.

Thank you for your skilled avoidance of the question. I give up.

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25 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Absolutely you know where he stands.  As opposed to the typical pol being subjected to handlers and having everything they say scrubbed.

Somehow you still think there's a difference.

What do you mean, he still thinks there’s a difference? When you say ‘as opposed to’ that means YOU think there’s a difference.

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5 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I certainly don't go along in lockstep with Trump but I appreciate his willingness to speak frankly.

No you don't. That is a lie. Whenever he says something really stupid the first thing apologists like you say is: he doesn't really mean that.

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5 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Which Bush?  J/K.  I believe the fundamental difference between Trump and all of the other POTUS is he just blurts out what he's thinking.  He isn't concerned about whether you agree with it or whether it helps or hurts his re-election chances. 

Are you that naive? Is your memory that short?

Trump literally stood up on stage, on TV, and admitted that he said things during the campaign which he didn’t believe, that his handlers told him to say, and that he kept saying them purely because they played well with the audience.

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1 minute ago, gowlerk said:

Thank you for your skilled avoidance of the question. I give up.

Don't give up that easily.  I'll try and simplify it for you

Kennedy - couldn't keep his dick in his pants

Johnson - continued a war he knew we couldn't win.

Nixon - obvious

Ford - the alka seltzer of Presidents, designed to quell the Nixon hangover

Carter - too decent a human to be POTUS.

Reagan - I loved Ron only to find out later how bad he fucked us.  At lease were happy while he was doing it.

Bush 1 - Reagan's lapdog.  How do you lose an election 6 months after a huge war victory?  What time is it?

Clinton - see Kennedy

Bush 2 - the ultimate Daddy complex

Obama - ACA sux

Trump - you'd probably love him if he had a muzzle.

See, they're all fucktards in one way or another.

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4 minutes ago, jakee said:

Are you that naive? Is your memory that short?

Trump literally stood up on stage, on TV, and admitted that he said things during the campaign which he didn’t believe, that his handlers told him to say, and that he kept saying them purely because they played well with the audience.

hehe...he never says anything he doesn't believe in.  He's running the office like a corporation.  See how long you have your job when you try to take the CEO on.

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5 minutes ago, jakee said:

Are you that naive? Is your memory that short?

Trump literally stood up on stage, on TV, and admitted that he said things during the campaign which he didn’t believe, that his handlers told him to say, and that he kept saying them purely because they played well with the audience.

And you believed him.

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1 minute ago, airdvr said:

hehe...he never says anything he doesn't believe in.  He's running the office like a corporation.  See how long you have your job when you try to take the CEO on.

He says whatever will get him a short-term answer he's looking for. Long-term consequences or actual truth don't matter to him.

I expect more out of my doctor, why shouldn't I expect more out of the country's President? What would you say if you asked a store owner if you could return defective merchandise, and he said "yes, of course," knowing for sure that you couldn't, or that he'd be out of business the next day. Would you think he was a smart businessman, or an asshole? Would you give him your money for his next business?

Wendy P.

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1 minute ago, airdvr said:

hehe...he never says anything he doesn't believe in. 

Oh sure. If you ignore all the things he constantly says that he doesn’t believe in then yeah, never ever ever!

4 minutes ago, airdvr said:

 He's running the office like a corporation. 

Yep, he’s running it exactly like his one of his corporations. Extracting as much personal profit as possible before bankrupting it and taking no responsibility for the debt.

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4 minutes ago, airdvr said:

hehe...he never says anything he doesn't believe in.  He's running the office like a corporation.  See how long you have your job when you try to take the CEO on.

Clearly you have never worked in a corporation. If you have only worked for people who don't tolerate opposing views, then I guess that explains some things.

 

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1 minute ago, jakee said:

Yep, he’s running it exactly like his one of his corporations. Extracting as much personal profit as possible before bankrupting it and taking no responsibility for the debt.

I do get a kick out of how incredibly American it is for people to think that having a gold toilet is a great qualification for their leader.

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15 minutes ago, airdvr said:

hehe...he never says anything he doesn't believe in.  He's running the office like a corporation.  See how long you have your job when you try to take the CEO on.

Every CEO of every company I worked for professionally actually did try to hire people that knew more than they did, and used their advice.   Not many direct underlings were fired, and none that I know of for butting heads with the CEO, but a couple of CEOs were replaced involuntarily. 

 

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2 minutes ago, headoverheels said:

Every CEO of every company I worked for professionally actually did try to hire people that knew more than they did, and used their advice.   Not many direct underlings were fired (none that I can remember in 40+ years), and none that I know of for butting heads with the CEO, but a couple of CEOs were replaced involuntarily. 

What was it all the conservative small government people used to say about politicians? Something about ‘they work for us’? But now they’re defending Trump for running the country like one of his companies that he owns. I’m sure there’s a word for heads of state who own their countries. Four letters, starts with a K. Strange to find out that’s what they really want.

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14 minutes ago, airdvr said:

hehe...he never says anything he doesn't believe in.  He's running the office like a corporation.  See how long you have your job when you try to take the CEO on.

Dude - he's a reality TV star.  He admits in his books that he lies to get what he wants.  He admitted he lied about COVID-19.  And you believe he says what he thinks?  He says whatever gets him a better outcome in five minutes.

Boy he sure got you.  He actually conned you into thinking that he was an honest politician.

And you think CEO's always say what they think, too?  Airdvr, I'd like you to meet Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos.  A real straight shooter of a CEO.  Perhaps you could invest?

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1 minute ago, wmw999 said:

He says whatever will get him a short-term answer he's looking for. Long-term consequences or actual truth don't matter to him.

I expect more out of my doctor, why shouldn't I expect more out of the country's President? What would you say if you asked a store owner if you could return defective merchandise, and he said "yes, of course," knowing for sure that you couldn't, or that he'd be out of business the next day. Would you think he was a smart businessman, or an asshole? Would you give him your money for his next business?

Wendy P.

Jeez Wendy...I expect more out of my doctor as well.  I'm not asking trump to do brain surgery.

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1 minute ago, airdvr said:

Jeez Wendy...I expect more out of my doctor as well.  I'm not asking trump to do brain surgery.

If you're asking your doctor to do brain surgery then you understand as much about medicine as you do politics.

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10 minutes ago, billvon said:

Dude - he's a reality TV star.  He admits in his books that he lies to get what he wants.  He admitted he lied about COVID-19.  And you believe he says what he thinks?  He says whatever gets him a better outcome in five minutes.

Boy he sure got you.  He actually conned you into thinking that he was an honest politician.

And you think CEO's always say what they think, too?  Airdvr, I'd like you to meet Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos.  A real straight shooter of a CEO.  Perhaps you could invest?

I'm not being conned by him.  I don't need him to be my moral compass.  But alas, there's no point in trying to interrupt the circlejerk you all have going on in here.  You should however try to avoid chafing.

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10 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Jeez Wendy...I expect more out of my doctor as well.  I'm not asking trump to do brain surgery.

What are you asking him to do? Use money from daddy and Hollywood and spend it in such a way to ensure losses are maximized? Except now you are footing the bill?

If you think he is such a smart business man and that is how the country should be run, that means ensure a high level of losses and constant emergency infusions of cash. You think that is an effective way to run the country? What exactly are you asking of Trump?

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