The US is a Banana Republic

[gowlerk 1,912]

USA banana production. None grown in DC as far as I know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_production_in_the_United_States

[murps2000 86]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/trumps-farcical-inept-and-deadly-serious-coup-attempt/617309/

I guess this belongs here too. I hope a real stable genius doesn't come along in 2024.

[gowlerk 1,912]

The Arizona R party goes beyond "bananas".

https://www.salon.com/2020/12/08/arizona-republican-party-calls-on-supporters-to-give-their-lives-to-fight-trumps-election-loss/

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

The Arizona R party goes beyond "bananas".

https://www.salon.com/2020/12/08/arizona-republican-party-calls-on-supporters-to-give-their-lives-to-fight-trumps-election-loss/

Hi Ken,

When you look at the larger picture, it might be a good idea.

Jerry Baumchen

[airdvr 197]

Just got off the phone with an old friend.  He is as right as one can get and religious as well.  He doesn't even realize the types of crazies that get amped up over this.  Tried to interject that, while it's a right to not agree we don't need any more Oklahoma Cities.

I'm not sure I got through.

 

[gowlerk 1,912]

11 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Just got off the phone with an old friend.  He is as right as one can get and religious as well.  He doesn't even realize the types of crazies that get amped up over this.  Tried to interject that, while it's a right to not agree we don't need any more Oklahoma Cities.

I'm not sure I got through.

 

Thanks for the report. And for the attempt to talk sense to him. I guess with the level of anger and the sheer number of people involved there is bound to be some fringe group that slips through without a warning and commits some kind of outrageous crime. Usually they tell too many people and at least one tips off the police. Like with the plot against the Michigan governor. But you can't count on that everytime.

[kallend 1,623]

18 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Just got off the phone with an old friend.  He is as right as one can get and religious as well.  He doesn't even realize the types of crazies that get amped up over this.  Tried to interject that, while it's a right to not agree we don't need any more Oklahoma Cities.

I'm not sure I got through.

 

We have always had the crazy fringe with us.

It's only recently that the crazy fringe has received encouragement from the President of the United States of America.

[Phil1111 910]

2 minutes ago, kallend said:

We have always had the well armed crazy fringe with us.

It's only recently that the crazy fringe has received encouragement from the President of the United States of America to 'stand back and stand by'.

FIFY

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

2 hours ago, airdvr said:

Just got off the phone with an old friend.  He is as right as one can get and religious as well.  He doesn't even realize the types of crazies that get amped up over this.  Tried to interject that, while it's a right to not agree we don't need any more Oklahoma Cities.

I'm not sure I got through.

 

Hi airdvr,

Re:  'He is as right as one can get and religious as well.'

A truly dichotomous statement.

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 1,623]

Pretty sad that some electoral college events today have to have security against threats.  In Arizona it's being held at an "undisclosed location", and Michigan has closed all legislative buildings.

[gowlerk 1,912]

Some high ranking support for this:

President George W. Bush condemns riots: "This is how election results are disputed in a banana republic"

[SkyDekker 1,122]

1 minute ago, gowlerk said:

Some high ranking support for this:

President George W. Bush condemns riots: "This is how election results are disputed in a banana republic"

Boy, is Joe Webber ever going to be mad at him!

[gowlerk 1,912]

5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Boy, is Joe Webber ever going to be mad at him!

Joe was probably already unhappy with  "Mr. Mission Accomplished"!

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by gowlerk

[JoeWeber 2,299]

On 12/10/2020 at 11:42 AM, airdvr said:

Just got off the phone with an old friend.  He is as right as one can get and religious as well.  He doesn't even realize the types of crazies that get amped up over this.  Tried to interject that, while it's a right to not agree we don't need any more Oklahoma Cities.

I'm not sure I got through.

 

Fantastic, if abysmally late in the insurrection cycle. Maybe instead of trying to politely interject you could try screaming bloody fucking murder that you had it completely wrong with Trump, are sorry and ashamed of yourself, and beg him to wake the fuck up while we still have some threads of our once great democracy.

[airdvr 197]

You might want to untwist those panties Francis.  Some are calling it a coup attempt, armed insurrection and the like.  I don't see any generals joining the fray.  Until that happens this is merely a dust up.

BTW...did you miss McConnell's speech today?  I know you all can't stand him but this speech will place him in good stead with me.

 

[Phil1111 910]

4 minutes ago, airdvr said:

You might want to untwist those panties Francis.  Some are calling it a coup attempt, armed insurrection and the like.  I don't see any generals joining the fray.  Until that happens this is merely a dust up.

BTW...did you miss McConnell's speech today?  I know you all can't stand him but this speech will place him in good stead with me.

 

Three bombs, one dead, many injured and after three and 352/365ths of a year McConnell stands up for the constitution. Nice to know your standards of good conduct are so solidly founded.

What was the name of those realtors? Termites-R-Us

[gowlerk 1,912]

3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Three bombs, one dead, many injured and after three and 352/365ths of a year McConnell stands up for the constitution. Nice to know your standards of good conduct are so solidly founded.

What was the name of those realtors? Termites-R-Us

Moscow Mitch can read the wind. He knows Trump is of no further use to him. Mitch is the ultimate pol, the best the senate has seen since LBJ.

[kallend 1,623]

2 hours ago, airdvr said:

You might want to untwist those panties Francis.  Some are calling it a coup attempt, armed insurrection and the like.  I don't see any generals joining the fray.  Until that happens this is merely a dust up.

BTW...did you miss McConnell's speech today?  I know you all can't stand him but this speech will place him in good stead with me.

 

If he'd done his job and obeyed his oath back in February none of this would have happened, and Pence would be president elect.

[jakee 1,254]

5 hours ago, airdvr said:

BTW...did you miss McConnell's speech today?  I know you all can't stand him but this speech will place him in good stead with me.

Of course it does. For everyone else it just highlights what a slimy, two faced little toad he is. He has the gall to talk about shared respect for the system? 

[Phil1111 910]

11 hours ago, airdvr said:

You might want to untwist those panties Francis.  Some are calling it a coup attempt, armed insurrection and the like.  I don't see any generals joining the fray.  Until that happens this is merely a dust up....

For most Americans who voted for trump the world ends where the continental US ends.

Here is how the rest of the world views the events of yesterday.

Do you realize now what you have done? US gets the kind of ‘democracy’ it championed overseas. Russian coverage while Putin gloats.

In a speech broadcast by state television, Rouhani said: 'What we saw in the United States yesterday evening and today shows above all how fragile and vulnerable Western democracy is.' 

In China, the internet erupted in mirth at America's troubled democracy after Trump supporters caused carnage in Washington DC, comparing the chaos to the Hong Kong anti-government protests of 2019.On Thursday morning, state media tabloid Global Times tweeted side-by-side photo comparisons of Hong Kong protesters occupying the city's Legislative Council Complex in July 2019 with Wednesday's Washington riots.

Meanwhile Russian media delighted in the chaos in the US, with a senior minister stating US democracy was 'limping on both feet' and Venezuela's socialist regime said it hopes that the 'American people can blaze a new path toward stability'.

Turkey's Parliament Speaker Mustafa Sentop said on Twitter.'As Turkey, we have always been in favour of the law and democracy and we recommend it to everyone,' he added. 

 

[gowlerk 1,912]

27 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

For most Americans who voted for trump the world ends where the continental US ends.

Here is how the rest of the world views the events of yesterday.

Do you realize now what you have done? US gets the kind of ‘democracy’ it championed overseas. Russian coverage while Putin gloats.

In a speech broadcast by state television, Rouhani said: 'What we saw in the United States yesterday evening and today shows above all how fragile and vulnerable Western democracy is.' 

In China, the internet erupted in mirth at America's troubled democracy after Trump supporters caused carnage in Washington DC, comparing the chaos to the Hong Kong anti-government protests of 2019.On Thursday morning, state media tabloid Global Times tweeted side-by-side photo comparisons of Hong Kong protesters occupying the city's Legislative Council Complex in July 2019 with Wednesday's Washington riots.

Meanwhile Russian media delighted in the chaos in the US, with a senior minister stating US democracy was 'limping on both feet' and Venezuela's socialist regime said it hopes that the 'American people can blaze a new path toward stability'.

Turkey's Parliament Speaker Mustafa Sentop said on Twitter.'As Turkey, we have always been in favour of the law and democracy and we recommend it to everyone,' he added. 

 

Yes, none of what happened yesterday in America could happen in any of those countries. Because the population knows they would be cut down in the streets if they tried. They can gloat all they want but the fact is that American democracy has not really been damaged at all. It has stood the test and been upheld. There has not been a coup attempt, there has merely been a madman at the helm who egged on a large crowd of rabble. It was an extraordinary event, but not a real challenge to the established order. What needs to happen now is for Biden to take office and for Trump to face some effective legal penalty. 

[SkyDekker 1,122]

2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Yes, none of what happened yesterday in America could happen in any of those countries. Because the population knows they would be cut down in the streets if they tried.

Most of those countries have had successful uprisings. Just like the US has had in its past. If anything, yesterday showed how easy it could happen in the US as well.

[gowlerk 1,912]

9 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Most of those countries have had successful uprisings. Just like the US has had in its past. If anything, yesterday showed how easy it could happen in the US as well.

I'm going to disagree with that one. The events of yesterday show how hard it would be to make it happen. There has never been a successful uprising in the USA. The last successful territory wide uprising preceded the formation of the nation and the civil war failed to destroy it.

[JoeWeber 2,299]

15 hours ago, airdvr said:

You might want to untwist those panties Francis.  Some are calling it a coup attempt, armed insurrection and the like.  I don't see any generals joining the fray.  Until that happens this is merely a dust up.

BTW...did you miss McConnell's speech today?  I know you all can't stand him but this speech will place him in good stead with me.

 

No Generals? They did better. They had a US President in command. You need to get real.

[gowlerk 1,912]

5 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

No Generals? They did better. They had a US President in command.

He is basically a madman at this point. John Kelly said it best...Trump “is the most flawed person” he's ever known.