Skwrl 56 #76 October 18, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, DJL said: Can you tell me a bit more about the ritual for swearing allegiance to Satan? I want to make sure I'm doing it right but don't believe that was part of the process of excluding religion from my life. Does it look something like this: And, ironically, the #QAnon fools believe Trump is *fighting* the global Satanist alliance. LOL. Edited October 18, 2019 by Skwrl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #77 October 18, 2019 11 hours ago, RonD1120 said: To reject being born-again means you actually swear allegiance to Satan. What a load of rubbish! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfalls 110 #78 October 18, 2019 11 hours ago, normiss said: I have trouble swearing allegiance to non-existent fairy tale beings. #TheToothFairyThough #MaybeSantaToo What about the Easter Bunny and the Great Pumpkin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #79 October 18, 2019 5 hours ago, DJL said: Can you tell me a bit more about the ritual for swearing allegiance to Satan? I want to make sure I'm doing it right but don't believe that was part of the process of excluding religion from my life. Does it look something like this: I have only heard it mentioned once by Dr Hank Lundstrum, Tampa, FL in the mid-1980s. Based on what I know now I believe the ritual would involve human sacrifice with a very high probability of it being an innocent child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #80 October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: I have only heard it mentioned once by Dr Hank Lundstrum, Tampa, FL in the mid-1980s. Based on what I know now I believe the ritual would involve human sacrifice with a very high probability of it being an innocent child. Most likely a white baby boy stolen from a god fearing good family in the GA hills. Probably by a Jew, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #81 October 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Most likely a white baby boy stolen from a god fearing good family in the GA hills. Probably by a Jew, right? The real trick is to buy in bulk, because when you do, the cost per unit goes way down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #82 October 18, 2019 It looks like billvon gives you two a pass on racist remarks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #83 October 18, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: It looks like billvon gives you two a pass on racist remarks. How’s mine racist? I’m talking about buying strategies to minimize expense. I don’t mention race all all. Maybe I should have suggested buying kids for sacrifice using the CostCo membership or at BJ's Wholesale Club. How’s his racist? He’s mocking the well-known and well-documented belief, in some parts of the Christian community - from the Middle Ages through apparently even today - that "the Jews" are responsible for abducting children, referred to as the Blood Libel, which is of course false. Edited October 18, 2019 by Skwrl Good grammar is good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 142 #84 October 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: It looks like billvon gives you two a pass on racist remarks. How about the claim that if you reject the indoctrination of your youth, and decide that none of this religion stuff holds water, that you've sworn allegiance to the devil? By itself, not a big deal, but then when you clarify in a later post that you're actually alleging is that swearing allegiance to the devil involves child sacrifice... If A=B and B=C, then A=C and you're alleging falsely that people who do not subscribe to your belief system have committed an actual crime (including some of us in SC), then doesn't that make you guilty of defamation of character? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #85 October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: It looks like billvon gives you two a pass on racist remarks. My mistake, as I thought about it, billvon does not intervene much on those types of remarks. I was thinking about the time I referenced an article on the Alexander Stephens website which made a statement about the good care he gave his Negro slaves and how they were devoted to him. It was gowlerk and Skydekker who got upset, not billvon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #86 October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Skwrl said: How’s mine racist? I’m talking about buying strategies to minimize expense. I don’t mention race all all. Maybe I should have suggested buying kids for sacrifice using the CostCo membership or at BJ's Wholesale Club. How’s his racist? He’s mocking the well-known and well-documented belief, in some parts of the Christian community - from the Middle Ages through apparently even today - that "the Jews" are responsible for abducting children, referred to as the Blood Libel, which is of course false. A much better association would have been the Clintons as they did with Haitian children a few years back. Supposedly, in cahoots with J. Epstein. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #87 October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, yobnoc said: How about the claim that if you reject the indoctrination of your youth, and decide that none of this religion stuff holds water, that you've sworn allegiance to the devil? By itself, not a big deal, but then when you clarify in a later post that you're actually alleging is that swearing allegiance to the devil involves child sacrifice... If A=B and B=C, then A=C and you're alleging falsely that people who do not subscribe to your belief system have committed an actual crime (including some of us in SC), then doesn't that make you guilty of defamation of character? You are misrepresenting my post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 142 #88 October 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: You are misrepresenting my post. Bold assertion. I'll wait for someone else to jump in and explain how I'm misrepresenting it, since you don't seem to be able to. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #89 October 18, 2019 54 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: A much better association would have been the Clintons as they did with Haitian children a few years back. Supposedly, in cahoots with J. Epstein. There are lots of J. Epsteins. Did you mean this one?https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tape-shows-donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-discussing-women-1992-party-n1030686 Or maybe this one: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #90 October 19, 2019 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: A much better association would have been the Clintons as they did with Haitian children a few years back. Supposedly, in cahoots with J. Epstein. More Russian winning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #91 October 19, 2019 Hi folks, Re: 'WWIII???' On Wednesday the president called the Turkey-Syria border situation "strategically brilliant" Mitch McConnell says fellow Republican Mr Trump's troop withdrawal order combined with Turkey's Syria assault was a "strategic nightmare". https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50103605 Oh boy; where's my popcorn? Gonna be fun to watch this one. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #92 October 19, 2019 12 hours ago, yobnoc said: Bold assertion. I'll wait for someone else to jump in and explain how I'm misrepresenting it, since you don't seem to be able to. My post was not about indoctrination. It was about the experience of accepting Christ and being born-again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 143 #93 October 19, 2019 20 hours ago, Bigfalls said: What about the Easter Bunny and the Great Pumpkin? It’s actually no surprise that evangelicals embrace Trump. Their whole ethos and belief system relies on ignoring the overwhelming evidence of facts to embrace a fictitious storyline. The USA has a religious fundamentalist problem and it isn’t the muslims! With every passing day I feel that my views that the USA is closer in ideology to Iran than it is to most of Europe. Especially as you venture into the Bible belt. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 142 #94 October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: My post was not about indoctrination. It was about the experience of accepting Christ and being born-again. Seems like you're really working hard to distinguish between shedding your faith and shedding your indoctrination. But yeah, sure we can get all caught up in arbitrary definitions if you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #95 October 19, 2019 8 hours ago, RonD1120 said: My post was not about indoctrination. It was about the experience of accepting Christ and being born-again. THAT is the indoctrination. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #96 October 19, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 8:52 PM, RonD1120 said: You cannot escape from being "born-again." You either are or you are not. There are believers, non-believers, make believers. To reject being born-again means you actually swear allegiance to Satan. That is a pretty tough ritual for most folks. On 10/18/2019 at 1:11 PM, RonD1120 said: I have only heard it mentioned once by Dr Hank Lundstrum, Tampa, FL in the mid-1980s. Based on what I know now I believe the ritual would involve human sacrifice with a very high probability of it being an innocent child. Wait a minute... You are saying that simply rejecting the idea of being 'born again' automatically means that someone is swearing allegiance to Satan? And that it involves human sacrifice? Slaughtering CHILDREN?!?!?! That's a hell of a leap. And also, a load of shit. I don't doubt you believe the 'human sacrifice involving kids' crap. Doesn't make it any more truthful than a lot of crap you believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #97 October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: And that it involves human sacrifice? Slaughtering CHILDREN?!?!?! I recall Qanon coming up with a great theory about how Hillary Clinton was killing children and drinking their blood. Maybe he's just recycling that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #98 October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Wait a minute... You are saying that simply rejecting the idea of being 'born again' automatically means that someone is swearing allegiance to Satan? And that it involves human sacrifice? Slaughtering CHILDREN?!?!?! That's a hell of a leap. And also, a load of shit. I don't doubt you believe the 'human sacrifice involving kids' crap. Doesn't make it any more truthful than a lot of crap you believe. You also are missing the point. Rejection of Christ after being born-again is not the same as rejecting the idea of being born-again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 142 #99 October 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: You also are missing the point. Rejection of Christ after being born-again is not the same as rejecting the idea of being born-again. The phrase "born again" gets used a lot and with different meanings; perhaps you could clarify what your definition of this nonsensical term is. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #100 October 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, yobnoc said: The phrase "born again" gets used a lot and with different meanings; perhaps you could clarify what your definition of this nonsensical term is. 53 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: You also are missing the point. Rejection of Christ after being born-again is not the same as rejecting the idea of being born-again. So if I talk yobnoc out of being born again did I abort him? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
