Trump's economic plan

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billvon

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Oh but it is when managed properly and you refuse to give up just because of a setback. He kept going and now he is the POTUS.

In that case, Obama is ten times the man Trump is.

President Trump had his own money. Obama had George Soros. I believe there is a real difference in motivation between the two.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 2,400]

>President Trump had his own money.

Trump had his father's money from birth. Obama had nothing.

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billvon

>President Trump had his own money.

Trump had his father's money from birth. Obama had nothing.

Not completely true. Obama had the huge advantage of a middle American family who taught him about values and morality. Trump on the other hand was taught to lie cheat and steal by his father.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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Iago

******Oh, and special note how nobody jumped to put the Clinton Crime Family in with the ‘oh they weren’t like that’ crowd. Plenty of you were lined up and ready to VOTE for them, though.

How about Beeeeeernie? The man who preaches the values and benefits of the Socialist/Marxist agenda, makes millions of dollars a year doing so, and owns five vacation and lake properties? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

The GOP spent over $100 MILLION of taxpayer money trying to pin something, anything, on the Clintons, and all they got for it was a stained blue dress.

I doubt any other family in history has been so thoroughly investigated with so little to show for it.

Yeah, because anyone who actually knew anything ended up dead.

"Yeah, because anyone who actually knew anything ended up dead."

My eyes just rolled out of my head. I can't see. Luckily I know braille.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

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Iago

******Oh, and special note how nobody jumped to put the Clinton Crime Family in with the ‘oh they weren’t like that’ crowd. Plenty of you were lined up and ready to VOTE for them, though.

How about Beeeeeernie? The man who preaches the values and benefits of the Socialist/Marxist agenda, makes millions of dollars a year doing so, and owns five vacation and lake properties? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

The GOP spent over $100 MILLION of taxpayer money trying to pin something, anything, on the Clintons, and all they got for it was a stained blue dress.

I doubt any other family in history has been so thoroughly investigated with so little to show for it.

Yeah, because anyone who actually knew anything ended up dead.

Oh please. . . .

You are suggesting that the Clintons are SO smart they have outsmarted the entire congressional GOP over several decades, the FBI, the DoJ, the local and state police across the entire USA, special prosecutors and their staffs, and countless investigative journalists.

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billvon

>10 x 0 = 0

But 10/0 = a lot.

0^0 = 1

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RonD1120

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Oh but it is when managed properly and you refuse to give up just because of a setback. He kept going and now he is the POTUS.

In that case, Obama is ten times the man Trump is.

President Trump had his own money. Obama had George Soros. I believe there is a real difference in motivation between the two.

No evidence to the first sentence.

Yes, Obama was motivated for the good of the country, and Trump is solely motivated for his own benefit.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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winsor

***>10 x 0 = 0

But 10/0 = a lot.

0^0 = 1

0! = 1 and 0 != 2 while 0 != 0! and 0! != 2

At Hilbert's Hotel you never have to share a room.

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[billvon 2,400]

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You are suggesting that the Clintons are SO smart they have outsmarted the entire congressional GOP over several decades, the FBI, the DoJ, the local and state police across the entire USA, special prosecutors and their staffs, and countless investigative journalists.

That's how they pulled off 9/11, the Kennedy assassination and the pizza place sex ring without anyone knowing!

[SkyDekker 1,122]

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Yeah, because anyone who actually knew anything ended up dead.

They have been through untold investigations and nothing ever comes out of it, not even charges.

If they are guilty, either the Clintons are incredibly smart and cunning, or everybody else is just incredibly stupid.

Which one do you believe?

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Iago

How about Beeeeeernie? The man who preaches the values and benefits of the Socialist/Marxist agenda, makes millions of dollars a year doing so, and owns multiple vacation and lake properties? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Yeah, so I'm sure you'll have no problems demonstrating how Bernie says that no-one should be more successful than anyone else.

Your obvious desperation does not make your point anymore convincing, FYI.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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SkyDekker

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Yeah, because anyone who actually knew anything ended up dead.

They have been through untold investigations and nothing ever comes out of it, not even charges.

If they are guilty, either the Clintons are incredibly smart and cunning, or everybody else is just incredibly stupid.

Which one do you believe?

It is not smart or stupid. It is the possession of incredible power.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[jakee 1,254]

RonD1120

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Oh but it is when managed properly and you refuse to give up just because of a setback. He kept going and now he is the POTUS.

In that case, Obama is ten times the man Trump is.

President Trump had his own money. Obama had George Soros. I believe there is a real difference in motivation between the two.

Oh, ok. You've run out of pragmatism already and now motivation matters?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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That’s why it’s, um, incredible.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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RonD1120

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Yeah, because anyone who actually knew anything ended up dead.

They have been through untold investigations and nothing ever comes out of it, not even charges.

If they are guilty, either the Clintons are incredibly smart and cunning, or everybody else is just incredibly stupid.

Which one do you believe?

It is not smart or stupid. It is the possession of incredible power.

And they just amassed this power by sheer luck? I mean they are nowhere near as rich as Trump, yet it would appear infinitely more powerful. Just luck?

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And they just amassed this power by sheer luck? I mean they are nowhere near as rich as Trump, yet it would appear infinitely more powerful. Just luck?

George Soros! Vast left wing conspiracy. [Qanon] Satanic rituals. Sex ring under a pizza place. JFK! Haven't you been listening to FOX?

[jakee 1,254]

RonD1120

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Yeah, because anyone who actually knew anything ended up dead.

They have been through untold investigations and nothing ever comes out of it, not even charges.

If they are guilty, either the Clintons are incredibly smart and cunning, or everybody else is just incredibly stupid.

Which one do you believe?

It is not smart or stupid. It is the possession of incredible power.
Ah, so they're winning?

That must mean they haven't done anything wrong, they were just being pragmatic.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

***How about Beeeeeernie? The man who preaches the values and benefits of the Socialist/Marxist agenda, makes millions of dollars a year doing so, and owns multiple vacation and lake properties? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Yeah, so I'm sure you'll have no problems demonstrating how Bernie says that no-one should be more successful than anyone else.

Your obvious desperation does not make your point anymore convincing, FYI.

You guys have just gotten too easy. You all bore me.

This place used to be fun. Now it’s like my high school Model UN group with a bunch of kids thinking and acting like they’re really UN delegates and are actually going to change the world by their incredibly heated debates in the Wilson-Magnet school auditorium and getting into screaming matches in the hallway.

Dial your sensitivity down a few notches, set your trigger points higher, and recalibrate your sarcasm meter. Everything will suddenly become more enjoyable.

Confirmed cynical sarcastic bastard since 2003

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kallend

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Oh but it is when managed properly and you refuse to give up just because of a setback. He kept going and now he is the POTUS.

In that case, Obama is ten times the man Trump is.

President Trump had his own money. Obama had George Soros. I believe there is a real difference in motivation between the two.

No evidence to the first sentence.

Yes, Obama was motivated for the good of the country, and Trump is solely motivated for his own benefit.

The Obamas are on their way to being a billion dollar brand. Did they really pull the wool over everyone’s eyes when they came on the scene?

Confirmed cynical sarcastic bastard since 2003

[wmw999 2,121]

We live in a celebrity culture right now. It’s probably the most obvious move for a whole lot of people. It doesn’t make me think more highly of them necessarily, other than that they’re aware enough of how society is working now to use it.

It’s a more positive role model than many sports players at least.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Iago

******How about Beeeeeernie? The man who preaches the values and benefits of the Socialist/Marxist agenda, makes millions of dollars a year doing so, and owns multiple vacation and lake properties? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Yeah, so I'm sure you'll have no problems demonstrating how Bernie says that no-one should be more successful than anyone else.

Your obvious desperation does not make your point anymore convincing, FYI.

You guys have just gotten too easy. You all bore me.

This place used to be fun. Now it’s like my high school Model UN group with a bunch of kids thinking and acting like they’re really UN delegates and are actually going to change the world by their incredibly heated debates in the Wilson-Magnet school auditorium and getting into screaming matches in the hallway.

Dial your sensitivity down a few notches, set your trigger points higher, and recalibrate your sarcasm meter. Everything will suddenly become more enjoyable.

That is one of, if not the best most enlightened posts I've read here.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 58]

wmw999

We live in a celebrity culture right now. It’s probably the most obvious move for a whole lot of people. It doesn’t make me think more highly of them necessarily, other than that they’re aware enough of how society is working now to use it.

It’s a more positive role model than many sports players at least.

Wendy P.

Excellent observation

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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wmw999

We live in a celebrity culture right now. It’s probably the most obvious move for a whole lot of people. It doesn’t make me think more highly of them necessarily, other than that they’re aware enough of how society is working now to use it.

It’s a more positive role model than many sports players at least.

Wendy P.

I disagree and usually you're right.

Look at the yellow vest protests in France. Protesting not only against a new fuel tax. But against stagnant wages and poor social mobility.

Look at all the democrat women who ran in the midterms, against men. Then won. Not because of Hollywood celebrities pushing a message. But because they created their own message that was better.

Take the groundswell of millions of voters that have become politically active. Because they are sick of the venomous hate in the WH. Because they care about the environment, etc.

Conservatives love to hate the Hollywood liberals types that fly to the protests in Gulfstream lVs. But refuse to recognize the conservatives building wind farms towards a zero emission future.

I think you generalize about a legitimate, but small segment of the left and center. But what about Schwarzenegger, the Bush family, etc. Who have abandoned the right because of what trump has done to it.

No its not a celebrity culture.Its one that refuses to stand when the government separates children from parents in prison camps.Refuses to ignore the dog whistles of hate.

Who want something done about a national systematic gun culture. For which the sacrifice of innocents is acceptable in order to sustain a false constitutional narrative.

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I was ascribing the Obama "ascendency" to a celebrity culture. Of course not everyone hies to it (thank goodness), but dang, there are enough celebrity magazines to make it pretty clear that a lot of people are interested in what can only be considered a form of voyeurism.

Think of "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous," and extrapolate. Think of full-time image managers employed by so many people, and the image consultants out there.

I remember learning in 7th grade social studies about the movie and celebrity magazines of the 30's and 40's and thinking about how stupid that sounded. It still sounds stupid, but that doesn't make it any less real.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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wmw999

...I remember learning in 7th grade social studies about the movie and celebrity magazines of the 30's and 40's and thinking about how stupid that sounded. It still sounds stupid, but that doesn't make it any less real.

Wendy P.

Us, People, National Enquirer, and all the other stuff at the grocery checkout?

Print is dying, but not those.

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