gowlerk 1,914 #1 August 8, 2018 Apparently our government has upset the King and his son the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia by speaking too much about their political oppression. They have decided to retaliate by starting a trade war. I'm not sure how effective that will be given the small size of our trade. I guess it may be designed to let other nations know that such behavior will not be tolerated. How come America is still in the King's good books? https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/saudi-patients-wednesday-reuters-1.4777276?cmp=FB_Post_News Click below to see a picture of an Air Canada jet being flown into the CN tower 9/11 style. It was posted to social media by an angry Saudi group. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/saudi-arabian-group-apologizes-for-posting-image-appearing-to-threaten-canada-with-9-11-style-attack-1.4775509Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #2 August 8, 2018 gowlerkApparently our government has upset the King and his son the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia by speaking too much about their political oppression. They have decided to retaliate by starting a trade war. I'm not sure how effective that will be given the small size of our trade. I guess it may be designed to let other nations know that such behavior will not be tolerated. How come America is still in the King's good books? https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/saudi-patients-wednesday-reuters-1.4777276?cmp=FB_Post_News Click below to see a picture of an Air Canada jet being flown into the CN tower 9/11 style. It was posted to social media by an angry Saudi group. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/saudi-arabian-group-apologizes-for-posting-image-appearing-to-threaten-canada-with-9-11-style-attack-1.4775509The Saudis can go pound sand, of which they have a lot. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #3 August 8, 2018 >How come America is still in the King's good books? Because we have a president who is cowed by strongmen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #4 August 8, 2018 I heard the most likely explanation for this on NPR yesterday. The King recently shot down an Israeli peace plan supported by the Prince, much to the Prince's embarrassment. This frap with Canada is intended to distract people. Sound familiar? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #5 August 8, 2018 billvon>How come America is still in the King's good books? Because we have a president who is cowed by strongmen. Yup, our neighbour and ally had this to say: QuoteOn Tuesday, a State Department spokeswoman said that although "we have a regular dialogue with the government of Saudi Arabia on human rights and other issues," the US was encouraging Saudi Arabia and Canada to sort out their differences amongst themselves. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #6 August 9, 2018 Wait a minute! The right wing been telling us for years that Canadian healthcare is a disaster since they adopted universal healthcare. But now we are hearing that rich Saudis choose to go there??? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #7 August 9, 2018 Thank God. Allah will continue to allow the King to take our money. The Holy oil revenue will flow! http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/saudi-arabia-canada-oil-supplies-jailed-activists-1.4778749Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #8 August 13, 2018 ........... https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/saudi-patients-wednesday-reuters-1.4777276?cmp=FB_Post_News Click below to see a picture of an Air Canada jet being flown into the CN tower 9/11 style. It was posted to social media by an angry Saudi group. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/saudi-arabian-group-apologizes-for-posting-image-appearing-to-threaten-canada-with-9-11-style-attack-1.4775509 ................................................................................. Poor choice of target by a bumbling bunch of amateurs. Few people work within the CN Tower. Few TO firefighters will try rushing up the Tower to save a few restaurant workers. Only a few antennas will be damaged. Hopefully, Toronto has enough communications redundancy to render that strike temporary. Few grand speeches by the mayor of Toronto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #9 October 12, 2018 With the news this week of the murderous Saudi Crown Prince it seems Canada has learned it's lesson. Crickets. Just like the British and Americans. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2018/10/13/what-it-means-if-saudi-arabia-murdered-a-journalist-in-turkeyAlways remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,123 #10 October 12, 2018 We are continuing to be very upset while we do business with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #11 October 13, 2018 QuoteOn Tuesday, a State Department spokeswoman said that although "we have a regular dialogue with the government of Saudi Arabia on human rights and other issues," the US was encouraging Saudi Arabia and Canada to sort out their differences amongst themselves. Trump actually said today that the issue with the torture and murder of the journalist was sad - a "really, really terrible situation" - but other countries do bad things, so what's the big deal? Besides, he doesn't want to lose the "massive amounts of money" he is getting from them for weapons. Nothing new there. From a Trump campaign speech: "I get along great with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #12 October 13, 2018 Well, he put his hands on that orb thing when he was there, so he cannot really be held responsible at this point, at least wrt ths Sauds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #13 October 13, 2018 The west has a deal with the House of Saud. They keep tight control over the people and keep the oil flowing. We buy the oil and keep the weapons flowing. The US 5th fleet keeps the Iranians out and the gulf open. Been that way since the end of the big war. America First is not going to change that.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #14 October 13, 2018 gowlerkThe west has a deal with the House of Saud. They keep tight control over the people and keep the oil flowing. We buy the oil and keep the weapons flowing. The US 5th fleet keeps the Iranians out and the gulf open. Been that way since the end of the big war. America First is not going to change that. Yes, and Robert Baer (ex-CIA) wrote an entire book about that, way back in 2004: Sleeping With the Devil: How Washington Sold Our Soul for Saudi Crude https://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Devil-Washington-Saudi-Crude/dp/1400052688"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #15 October 13, 2018 ryoder***The west has a deal with the House of Saud. They keep tight control over the people and keep the oil flowing. We buy the oil and keep the weapons flowing. The US 5th fleet keeps the Iranians out and the gulf open. Been that way since the end of the big war. America First is not going to change that. Yes, and Robert Baer (ex-CIA) wrote an entire book about that, way back in 2004: Sleeping With the Devil: How Washington Sold Our Soul for Saudi Crude https://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Devil-Washington-Saudi-Crude/dp/1400052688 Does anyone at our level truly understand the role of the CIA and the Mideast? [Think B613] [Think Illuminati] [Think NWO]Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,341 #16 October 13, 2018 B613? Illuminati? I'd like to think you are joking and trolling with that, but I think you are serious. The 'super secret intelligence agency' is a staple of TV, movie and fiction writing. Not reality. But it's readily apparent that you choose to ignore reality and substitute it with what you want to be true."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #17 October 13, 2018 wolfriverjoeB613? Illuminati? I'd like to think you are joking and trolling with that, but I think you are serious. The 'super secret intelligence agency' is a staple of TV, movie and fiction writing. Not reality. But it's readily apparent that you choose to ignore reality and substitute it with what you want to be true. Trolling perhaps. The CIA is but an arm of the state. Generally speaking they act only under the direction of the president.To the benefit of the state. Mohammed bin Salman in the Case of Canadian criticism. The murder of the WP journalist and Saudi citizen. Has proven exactly what he is about. Molded in the thinking of Putin and trump. He seems to believe that any criticism attacks his ego. Punishment all out of proportion is his response. Canada, the US have all responded the same way. Business as usual. Canada knows that the armored vehicle sales agreement. Will supply weapons to be used against the Saudi Shia minority. Used to kill Yemeni civilians. But jobs trump integrity. Just as they did when the CIA meddled in Iranian elections to prop up the monarchy. One that tortured and abused dissidents. Don't forget its the Saudi textbooks, Saudi Mullahs that taught the 9/11 hijackers their twisted religious dogma.That gave rise to Al Qaeda, to IS. ...Oh, then again there is the Qatar boycott. Mohammed bin Salman's personal vendetta against anyone who wants to negotiate or compromise with Iran. Kind of reminds me of how another despot conducts his negotiations, trump. Saudi Arabia 'destabilising Arab world', German intelligence warns https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/12029546/Saudi-Arabia-destabilising-Arab-world-German-intelligence-warns.html But what the hell. Let the US pour in $110 billion in weapons. Canada $15 billion more. At least hell will stay in the middle east, right? Trump Jr. Boosts Smear Tying Missing Journalist Jamal Khashoggi to Islamic Terrorism https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-jr-boosts-smear-tying-missing-journalist-jamal-khashoggi-to-islamic-terrorism Donald Trump Jr. on Friday promoted a smear tying Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi to Osama bin Laden, retweeting a series of tweets meant to imply that the Saudi commentator, who has been missing since last week, supported Islamic terrorism. With President Trump apparently reluctant to punish Saudi Arabia over Khashoggi’s alleged murder after he entered the Saudi embassy in Istanbul, conservative pundits have been straining to provide excuses for U.S. inaction. The trumps, the best puppets Saudi cash can buy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #18 January 11, 2019 Canada strikes again. When is the rest of the western world going to stand up? https://www.npr.org/2019/01/11/684452662/canada-grants-asylum-to-saudi-woman-who-fled-her-family Feeling a little bit prouder than usual today.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #19 January 11, 2019 >When is the rest of the western world going to stand up? Thank God she didn't invade the US! We need a wall! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #20 January 12, 2019 billvon>When is the rest of the western world going to stand up? Thank God she didn't invade the US! We need a wall! Well in all of 2018 the US did admit: 1. Iraq: 29 people 2. Syria: 11 Its a good lesson for everyone that gets invaded by the US. Guided MK-82's, on the way. Just don't try to emigrate to the US afterwards. https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/us-accepted-refugees-2018/ IMO these numbers seem suspect and too low. But compassionate, caring and generous trump is in charge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #21 January 12, 2019 Meanwhile, in the land of the free and the home of the brave, at a Capitol Hill event to honour Jamal Khashoggi, participants are told to refrain from criticizing the Saudi thug regime who murdered him. http://time.com/5501140/jamal-khashoggi-memorial-saudi-arabia/ Only one dared to stand up. What does this say about America?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #22 January 12, 2019 >What does this say about America? That we have a puppet for a president? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #23 January 12, 2019 billvon>What does this say about America? That we have a puppet for a president? Well, he did put his hands on that glowing orb thingy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #24 February 5, 2019 This is what happens you you make nice with people who hate you just because you hate someone else. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/02/middleeast/yemen-lost-us-arms/ Sooner or later your weapons will be used against you. Again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
