Miller's declaration of war to the population ... ?

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Channman

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President Trump is worth an estimated 3.7 Billion dollars. I don't think he's that worried about lining his families pockets. They're already warm.

Seriously? All he cares about it his personal wealth. If he wasn't concerned about making money he would have properly separated himself from his companies. Why didn't he? Because he would have lost money (according to his own lawyer).

All true...but it doesn't mean he ran for POTUS to "line his family's pockets".

JFK's family worth adjusted for inflation would have been about 1 billion. The next closest former President is Bill Clinton at 75 million. Trump's 3.7 billion is so far above any other US President I have a difficult time believing he's in it for the money.

Do you support the USPA?

Any truth to the Donnald not taking his $400,000.00 salary?

That is what he declared.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 2,400]

>Courts have been legislating from the bench for years.

As has the legislature; legislating from their comfy seats for decades. O the horror! When will they bow down to their new orange messiah?

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RonD1120

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Any truth to the Donnald not taking his $400,000.00 salary?

That is what he declared.
In other words - probably not true.

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RonD1120

All the foreign posters here, especially Europeans, hate America.

It is unfortunate that not only do you believe that, but also willingly promote that myopic opinion.

[RonD1120 58]

aphid

*** All the foreign posters here, especially Europeans, hate America.

It is unfortunate that not only do you believe that, but also willingly promote that myopic opinion.

Maybe you are the one exception. Most of what I read is disparaging. You on the other hand tend to be more upbeat overall.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 2,400]

>Maybe you are the one exception.

Get to know a few more foreigners. You'll find most are the "exception."

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All true...but it doesn't mean he ran for POTUS to "line his family's pockets".

No, the fact that he clearly has no plan other than to promote his own brand directly or indirectly. Why host the Japanese Prime Minister at Mar-e-Lago? What's wrong with Camp David? Oh that's right, no point in generating free advertising for Camp David.

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JFK's family worth adjusted for inflation would have been about 1 billion. The next closest former President is Bill Clinton at 75 million. Trump's 3.7 billion is so far above any other US President I have a difficult time believing he's in it for the money.

His entire life has been dedicated to two things: his ego, and his money. Why do you think he never gives a dime to charity? There's nothing in it for him. Why would he treat the Presidency any differently? You think he had a change of heart, now he just wants to serve the people?

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Do you support the USPA?

Huh?

- Dan G

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It's a fairly simple question. Do you support the USPA?

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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RonD1120

****** All the foreign posters here, especially Europeans, hate America.

It is unfortunate that not only do you believe that, but also willingly promote that myopic opinion.

Maybe you are the one exception. Most of what I read is disparaging. You on the other hand tend to be more upbeat overall.

You're talking about Speaker's Corner - the whole point is angst and pissery. Why surprised?

(Most of these guys - and those from opposing positions or not - are pretty nice in real life regardless of their SC posting style)

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It's a fairly simple question. Do you support the USPA?

This oughta be good

Sure, I generally support the USPA.

Please proceed to your point.

- Dan G

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airdvr

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By the way, what are the possible flags that you think the Judiciary might be flying?

Courts have been legislating from the bench for years.

So what are the possible flags that you think the Judiciary might be flying?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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DanG

His entire life has been dedicated to two things: his ego, and his money. Why do you think he never gives a dime to charity? There's nothing in it for him.

He does give dimes to charities; Other peoples dimes.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[normiss 622]

Given the new AG Sessions, would that be the rebel flag?

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airdvr

President Trump is worth an estimated 3.7 Billion dollars.

Only by his own estimate. Which he says is really more of a feeling.

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I don't think he's that worried about lining his families pockets. They're already warm.

Not warm enough that he doesn't steal from his contractors as often as possible. Not warm enough that he hasn't just doubled the membership fee of his club for all the people looking to sit in on his national security phone calls. Not warm enough that Mrs Trump hasn't stated to a court that she wants to leverage her own increased publicity to the tune of at least $150M over her husband's first term in office.

Trump's entire business career has involved screwing over whoever he can in order to scrape a bit more profit from a deal. Yet you think because he's been elected he's suddenly stopped aring about making money - even as he refuses to cut ties with his businesses or make any concrete steps to avoid conflicts of interest? Even as he wilfully creates conflicts of interest with his children and the foreign governments involved in their pending and ongoing projects?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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rehmwa

********* All the foreign posters here, especially Europeans, hate America.

It is unfortunate that not only do you believe that, but also willingly promote that myopic opinion.

Maybe you are the one exception. Most of what I read is disparaging. You on the other hand tend to be more upbeat overall.

You're talking about Speaker's Corner - the whole point is angst and pissery. Why surprised?

(Most of these guys - and those from opposing positions or not - are pretty nice in real life regardless of their SC posting style)

You are right! Thanks for the reminder.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

****** All the foreign posters here, especially Europeans, hate America.

It is unfortunate that not only do you believe that, but also willingly promote that myopic opinion.

Maybe you are the one exception. Most of what I read is disparaging. You on the other hand tend to be more upbeat overall.

But most of what you've written for the past 8 years has been disparaging of America. Trump's whole campaign was based on disparaging America?

Why is it that you like Trump for agreeing with you, but dislike foreigners for agreeing with you?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

***President Trump is worth an estimated 3.7 Billion dollars.

Only by his own estimate. Which he says is really more of a feeling.

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I don't think he's that worried about lining his families pockets. They're already warm.

Not warm enough that he doesn't steal from his contractors as often as possible. Not warm enough that he hasn't just doubled the membership fee of his club for all the people looking to sit in on his national security phone calls. Not warm enough that Mrs Trump hasn't stated to a court that she wants to leverage her own increased publicity to the tune of at least $150M over her husband's first term in office.

Trump's entire business career has involved screwing over whoever he can in order to scrape a bit more profit from a deal. Yet you think because he's been elected he's suddenly stopped aring about making money - even as he refuses to cut ties with his businesses or make any concrete steps to avoid conflicts of interest? Even as he wilfully creates conflicts of interest with his children and the foreign governments involved in their pending and ongoing projects?

You people need to understand the rational business principle is to make a profit, not to be fair. In business you get what you negotiate not what you deserve. It is a game of winners and losers.

Think of it like a poker game. If you don't know how to play well the other players will gladly relieve you of your money. Old saying, if you don't know who the patsy is within the first half hour, you are the patsy.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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You people need to understand the rational business principle is to make a profit, not to be fair. In business you get what you negotiate not what you deserve. It is a game of winners and losers.

Yes, and Trump has repeatedly shown his willingness to break the law, steal from people and trample all over the little guy in order to win that game. He has also repeatedly talked about how much he likes playing that game.

So I assume that you agree with me (that Trump will continue to be Trump and try and make money from being President) and disagree with Airdvr (who thinks Trump will completely change the pattern and priorities of his entire life thusfar, and not try and take advantage of the financial opportunities presented by his new office).

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Think of it like a poker game. If you don't know how to play well the other players will gladly relieve you of your money. Old saying, if you don't know who the patsy is within the first half hour, you are the patsy.

Yep, that's a pretty much perfect summation of my point. Seems like a lot of your fellow right wingers are absolutely determined to be patsies

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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You people need to understand the rational business principle is to make a profit, not to be fair. In business you get what you negotiate not what you deserve. It is a game of winners and losers.

You are correct. And we now have a president who has brought that philosophy into the White House. if he makes a profit from your taxes while the rest of the US declines, he "wins" - he is a better negotiator than you.

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...business principle is to make a profit, not be fair...

That sounds like you're saying it's ok to cheat as long as you can get away with it. That doesn't sound like a good life plan, however.

Yes, I know there's a difference between fair and honest, but when one is talking about stiffing suppliers and labor, it's kind of a slim difference.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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RonD1120

You people need to understand the rational business principle is to make a profit, not to be fair. In business you get what you negotiate not what you deserve. It is a game of winners and losers.

Think of it like a poker game. If you don't know how to play well the other players will gladly relieve you of your money. Old saying, if you don't know who the patsy is within the first half hour, you are the patsy.

That says more about the view you have and how it agrees with trumps thinking than anything else.

The goal of business is to be fair first and then make a profit from that fair transaction. Thats why business give refunds when customers are not fully satisfied by the deal. Knowing that they will lose money on ALL of those refunds. Its not about winners and losers. Its not a zero sum game. Its not winner take all, like poker.

Business like life is a partnership whereby each party comes out ahead. trump goes to court allot. Some business and business-people are almost never in court. When they are wrong they admit it and make the other party whole. Whey they make a mistake they make it right, without a court.

trump has the business attitude of "sue me" if you don't like it. "Prove it" if he failed to deliver what was promised. "See you in court" is almost a byline and blame the judges when he loses. Or more typically settle out of court when he gets caught in a sham enterprise.

You think that all foreigners want to take advantage of the US. That they hate the US, but want to emigrate to the US at the same time. SAD

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Back in the '90s there was an accounting program called "Managing Your Money." When you booted it up it would give you a pop up with a saying for the day. One that used to amuse me was, "The object is to make so much money that money is no longer the object."

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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I was not talking about retailer to customer but rather developer to developer or contractor to contractor.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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DanG

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It's a fairly simple question. Do you support the USPA?

This oughta be good

Sure, I generally support the USPA.

Please proceed to your point.

Since Trump should release all of his businesses so as to not have any appearance of conflict of interest do you expect the DZO's on the USPA Board to do likewise?

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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RonD1120

Back in the '90s there was an accounting program called "Managing Your Money." When you booted it up it would give you a pop up with a saying for the day. One that used to amuse me was, "The object is to make so much money that money is no longer the object."

Yeah? Sounds like something Stringer Bell would say in 'The Wire'.

Which raises the other question, where do the boundaries lie in the pursuit of profit? If it is ok to act in an unfair, immoral, illegal fashion in business dealings, how bad do you have to be and which laws do you have to break before it's not ok? Is it ok to be a confidence trickster? Is it ok to be a pickpocket or shoplifter? Is it ok to be a drug dealer? All these people are just trying to win the game and make more money.

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I was not talking about retailer to customer but rather developer to developer or contractor to contractor.

Why is there a difference? If it is in the best interest of the retailer to scam his customers out of their money why should he not do that?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?