Obama's legacy

[wmw999 2,160]

Have you ever met an actual media person? Talked with them? Or are the ones you know personally OK, it's just all the others who lie.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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No. But at we can decide without the media spin coming first.

Exactly!!!!

Next thing you know the media will be telling you there is no Pizzagate. Could you imagine?

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wmw999

Have you ever met an actual media person? Talked with them? Or are the ones you know personally OK, it's just all the others who lie.

Wendy P.

False question Wendy.

You know that when I talk of the media I talk of the networks.
Not an individual person.
There reports are nearly always miss-leading or flat out lies anymore. So they are know to all of us by there reports and actions. Did you know that nearly 90% of the network employees donate to the Democratic party?

Much of the stuff these so called news outlets put out is parroted on this site. And much of it is BS.

Now we are starting to see the media report that Trump is inheriting a growing strong economy. Which is bs too. Why would they do this?
Easy
So Trump can not get any credit if the economy really turns strong. (now, I admit it is growing but not by much)

The media was totally in bed with HC. Now that they got egg on their faces they need to make DT look bad.
Why?
They can not admit to themselves that the country as a whole did not agree with them and put HC in office.

And don't give me the HC got more votes crybaby bull shit.
Trump won!
And if one really looks at it CA is where nearly all of the 2M more votes came from. And CA is NOT representative of the US!.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Trump is inheriting a growing strong economy. Which is bs too

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now, I admit it is growing but not by much

The New America.

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They can not admit to themselves that the country as a whole did not agree with them and put HC in office.

No wonder you believe the Media is lying to you. That whole sentence makes absolutely no sense.

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And don't give me the HC got more votes crybaby bull shit.

We know that facts are indeed not very welcome with you.

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Trump won!

Well, one thing you say is true. So far a stopped clock is beating you though.

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rushmc

The media has not been truthful for thirty years.

Who told you that? Limbaugh? Breitbart?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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And tweeting random, radical foreign policy thoughts whenever they cross his mind with no regard for how they might affect relations with foreign powers is not doing the job of being President very well.

Perhaps. Or maybe he's decided that the last 8 years of allowing the US to be pushed around aren't in our nation's best interests. Nothing like keeping them guessing and at the same time achieving the goal of watching every detractor lose their minds. 2 for 1?

You keep thinking Trump is stupid. It's typical liberal behavior to assume they know what's right and everyone else is wrong.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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airdvr

Perhaps. Or maybe he's decided that the last 8 years of allowing the US to be pushed around aren't in our nation's best interests.

Conservatives saying stupid things like this are why we assume we're right - because this is total crap.

airdvr

You keep thinking Trump is stupid.

He isn't stupid, he's ignorant. He's got to be smart, to be a successful con man for as long as he has been. And he's just conned a bunch of people into putting him into the White House.

airdvr

It's typical liberal behavior to assume they know what's right and everyone else is wrong.

To be honest, it's hard to cope with being a reasonably well educated and successful person and listening to the constant drone of nonsense from conservatives - the lies their media is full of, the dog whistles, the generally useless opinions of know-nothings. Liberals don't have all the answers, but at least they're not out to rip you off while convincing you it's for your own good.

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kallend

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The media has not been truthful for thirty years.

Who told you that? Limbaugh? Breitbart?


None of the above
I told my dad in the late 70's or early 80's that I felt the media lied to us. That came after a 60 Minutes expose on nuclear power plants and the medias stories about them too. That was just one example.

But you see, you can not see that because you buy into the propaganda they push because you like what they say.

Not surprising you post something so stupid......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

airdvr

You keep thinking Trump is stupid. It's typical liberal behavior to assume they know what's right and everyone else is wrong.

Amen!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Lawndarter

To be honest, it's hard to cope with being a reasonably well educated and successful person and listening to the constant drone of nonsense from conservatives - the lies their media is full of, the dog whistles, the generally useless opinions of know-nothings. Liberals don't have all the answers, but at least they're not out to rip you off while convincing you it's for your own good.

Then leave and deal with your own shit in your own country and leave us to ours.

Or

Stop your oh so arrogant bitching!!!

Sheesh.......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

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To be honest, it's hard to cope with being a reasonably well educated and successful person and listening to the constant drone of nonsense from conservatives - the lies their media is full of, the dog whistles, the generally useless opinions of know-nothings. Liberals don't have all the answers, but at least they're not out to rip you off while convincing you it's for your own good.

Then leave and deal with your own shit in your own country and leave us to ours.

Or

Stop your oh so arrogant bitching!!!

Sheesh.......

Says some guy whining about the horrid "librul media".

Problem is that if Trump takes down America, he'll pull the rest of the world with it. I'm married to an American, have lots of family there. In fact, I was about to apply for a green card to follow my wife on a career opportunity, until the election.

Lots of people are going to suffer for the next four years - and long beyond, since the effects of bad governance don't magically stop on election day. Hell, America's never recovered from the Reagan disaster, and now they're doubling down on it.

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Trump is not going to take down the US.

STOP watching national news.

Holly shit.

TAKE DOWN AMERICA?

Is this a joke???

People are suffering now!
More people on food stamps than every before.
More people out of the work force than since the 40's
Wages are stale
Home ownership is at is lowest in the last 50 years

And you say Trump is going to take down the US


Delusional at best

If you really believe what you posted about Trump then stay the hell out.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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More people on food stamps than every before.

Easy solution, end the program Save billions and nobody will be on foodstamps anymore. People are only using them cause they are too lazy to find a job.

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More people out of the work force than since the 40's

Americans are getting lazier and lazier. Get a job. If it wasn't so easy to get welfare, people would go to work. Nobody wants to fight for the American Dream anymore.

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Wages are stale

Capitalism says: find another job. If the company cannot find employees at the current wage levels they will have to increase their offerings.

Are you some kind of socialist?

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ryoder

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From Twardo on Facebook:

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There are 3,141 counties in the United States.
Trump won 3,084 of them.
Clinton won 57.

Parroting bullshit does not make it true.

http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

Using this map, I counted ~40 blue counties just in CA, WA, and OR: http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president

I think it was the Allen West website/blog I saw this on....sounds like rather preliminary numbers within 24-48 hours of the election before many counties had officially reported. Still, the overall point is there - far more red counties and square milage won than Hillary.

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Still, the overall point is there - far more red counties and square milage won than Hillary.

Goes right along with that old adage about the beauty of democracy: One acre, one vote.

- Dan G

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Elisha

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From Twardo on Facebook:

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There are 3,141 counties in the United States.
Trump won 3,084 of them.
Clinton won 57.

Parroting bullshit does not make it true.

http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

Using this map, I counted ~40 blue counties just in CA, WA, and OR: http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president

I think it was the Allen West website/blog I saw this on....sounds like rather preliminary numbers within 24-48 hours of the election before many counties had officially reported. Still, the overall point is there - far more red counties and square milage won than Hillary.

Allen West has a worse "liar" rating than even Trump. Parroting something from Allen West is almost guaranteed to make you look like an idiot.

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There reports are nearly always miss-leading or flat out lies anymore.

Nearly always? Bullshit - your thinking of Trump's own tweets again.

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Did you know that nearly 90% of the network employees donate to the Democratic party?

I did not know that. Can you prove it?

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And if one really looks at it CA is where nearly all of the 2M more votes came from.

Really? Because just yesterday someone else on your side said it was NY

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And CA is NOT representative of the US!.

If 'nearly all' of Clinton's majority came from CA, then remove CA and she still won the popular vote in the rest of the USA. Is the rest of the US representative of the US?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Or maybe he's decided that the last 8 years of allowing the US to be pushed around aren't in our nation's best interests.

Pushed around how? Pushed around by who?

Examples, please.

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Nothing like keeping them guessing

Keep them guessing? Do you think it's a game?

So... essentially you'd be happy to base the US's diplomatic strategy on that employed by North Korea?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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kallend

Allen West has a worse "liar" rating than even Trump. Parroting something from Allen West is almost guaranteed to make you look like an idiot.

I find if he's referred to as "disgraced war criminal Allen West" or something analogous to that, you're using a factually accurate statement about him to discredit him. And frankly, he generally discredits himself.

Here's a good writeup on him. https://angrystaffofficer.com/2016/08/02/a-veterans-response-to-allen-west/?wref=tp

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DanG

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Still, the overall point is there - far more red counties and square milage won than Hillary.

Goes right along with that old adage about the beauty of democracy: One acre, one vote.

LMAO

[brenthutch 388]

First Obamacare and now it looks like his EPA overreach is at an end.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-epa-idUSKBN13W2HE

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rushmc

More people out of the work force than since the 40's

As always - please provide your source for this claim. Because everything I can find says it's bullshit. Again, as always.

And no semantics about 'out of the work-force', please. The % employed in total by year will do.

In fact, let me do that for you:

From the US Bureau of Labor Statistics:

Any of the years in the red area is where the current unemployment rate is higher (worse) than it was then, any years in the green area are where it's lower (better) now...
In fact there are only 6, maybe 7 time periods since the mid 40's where unemployment was lower than it currently is.


Your 'more people out of work force' statement is wrong. Massively.

Admit it.

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rushmc

******Wendy, I hope he keeps tweeting. He's going around the media that would like to frame the narrative of what he says. Now they have to react to what he's telling the people.

That's what people ARE reacting to. His actual words. There's no need to frame the narrative when his statements ARE the narrative.

rushmc

There's nothing wrong with his tweets and I hope he keeps doing them.

You mean nothing wrong with his total inability to avoid throwing tantrums when he thinks he's been "dissed"? Or are you referring to being ok with the repeated outright fabrications?

Of course you don't want the media getting involved and pointing out facts like, "Hey, that thing he said is 100% made up! The details are on public record and completely unbiased, he just decided to say a thing that was totally wrong cos it sounds good! Yay Trump!".

The media has not been truthful for thirty years.

All right, is that all media? When you refer to networks do you mean TV networks specifically, or can you give some examples of the types of source you believe are fundamentally untrustworthy?

"Media" is an incredibly broad term, so it would help to narrow down what you're referring to in clearer terms.

You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly.

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Since 1978. My bad.

http://www.businessinsider.com/lfpr-falls-to-lowest-level-since-1978-2014-5

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[TriGirl 278]

wmw999

Trump is the president-elect...

Wendy P.

FIFY!

See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus

Shut Up & Jump!