2 journalists shot dead on live TV in Virginia.

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turtlespeed

***No, it doesn't. Because most other first world nations are more secular and less religious than the US, and most other first world nations are much more open about sex and less hung up over kinky stuff than the US, and most other first world nations have a more comprehensive socialist safety net / benefit system than the US. But according to Turtlespeed most other first world nations are also much more normal than the US.

So why are you guys so fucked up? What are y'all doing wrong?

That's easy.

Too many liberals.

Have you ever considered travelling overseas????

What you call American "liberals" and hate so much.... are seen as conservatives in most western democracies.


THEN AGAIN....

stay home.... we have enough examples of the "Ugly American" on display around the world.

[kallend 1,623]

jakee

No, it doesn't. Because most other first world nations are more secular and less religious than the US, and most other first world nations are much more open about sex and less hung up over kinky stuff than the US, and most other first world nations have a more comprehensive socialist safety net / benefit system than the US. But according to Turtlespeed most other first world nations are also much more normal than the US.

So why are you guys so fucked up? What are y'all doing wrong?

You have to remember that Ron's lifestyle gives him a highly distorted lens which which to evaluate what is normal and what is weird.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Anvilbrother 0]

Amazon

******No, it doesn't. Because most other first world nations are more secular and less religious than the US, and most other first world nations are much more open about sex and less hung up over kinky stuff than the US, and most other first world nations have a more comprehensive socialist safety net / benefit system than the US. But according to Turtlespeed most other first world nations are also much more normal than the US.

So why are you guys so fucked up? What are y'all doing wrong?

That's easy.

Too many liberals.

Have you ever considered travelling overseas????

What you call American "liberals" and hate so much.... are seen as conservatives in most western democracies.


THEN AGAIN....

stay home.... we have enough examples of the "Ugly American" on display around the world.
He is green but damn I wouldn't go around calling him ugly.

Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

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Anvilbrother

*********No, it doesn't. Because most other first world nations are more secular and less religious than the US, and most other first world nations are much more open about sex and less hung up over kinky stuff than the US, and most other first world nations have a more comprehensive socialist safety net / benefit system than the US. But according to Turtlespeed most other first world nations are also much more normal than the US.

So why are you guys so fucked up? What are y'all doing wrong?

That's easy.

Too many liberals.

Have you ever considered travelling overseas????

What you call American "liberals" and hate so much.... are seen as conservatives in most western democracies.


THEN AGAIN....

stay home.... we have enough examples of the "Ugly American" on display around the world.
He is green but damn I wouldn't go around calling him ugly.

You ain't seen what I have seen

[jakee 1,255]

turtlespeed

***No, it doesn't. Because most other first world nations are more secular and less religious than the US, and most other first world nations are much more open about sex and less hung up over kinky stuff than the US, and most other first world nations have a more comprehensive socialist safety net / benefit system than the US. But according to Turtlespeed most other first world nations are also much more normal than the US.

So why are you guys so fucked up? What are y'all doing wrong?

That's easy.

Too many liberals.

And most other first world nations are far more liberal, so...

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

******No, it doesn't. Because most other first world nations are more secular and less religious than the US, and most other first world nations are much more open about sex and less hung up over kinky stuff than the US, and most other first world nations have a more comprehensive socialist safety net / benefit system than the US. But according to Turtlespeed most other first world nations are also much more normal than the US.

So why are you guys so fucked up? What are y'all doing wrong?

That's easy.

Too many liberals.

And most other first world nations are far more liberal, so...

Those that do not get out much... have no way of knowing that.

Plus so many of those far right dictatorships have fallen prey to sanity over the last 30 years or so....

What do you expect from people who think any normal news services are nothing but liberal mouthpieces.... and not fair and balanced like their approved news sources in the fringe right....?

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Anvilbrother

*********No, it doesn't. Because most other first world nations are more secular and less religious than the US, and most other first world nations are much more open about sex and less hung up over kinky stuff than the US, and most other first world nations have a more comprehensive socialist safety net / benefit system than the US. But according to Turtlespeed most other first world nations are also much more normal than the US.

So why are you guys so fucked up? What are y'all doing wrong?

That's easy.

Too many liberals.

Have you ever considered travelling overseas????

What you call American "liberals" and hate so much.... are seen as conservatives in most western democracies.


THEN AGAIN....

stay home.... we have enough examples of the "Ugly American" on display around the world.
He is green but damn I wouldn't go around calling him ugly.

Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism? I was there for a few weeks.
How's Crete? I was there too.

I was in turkey as well, and Egypt, and several others, what does that have to do with the price of plastic in China?

@anvil, that is what she is reduced to, she can't stop herself, we get it.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Amazon 7]

turtlespeed

************No, it doesn't. Because most other first world nations are more secular and less religious than the US, and most other first world nations are much more open about sex and less hung up over kinky stuff than the US, and most other first world nations have a more comprehensive socialist safety net / benefit system than the US. But according to Turtlespeed most other first world nations are also much more normal than the US.

So why are you guys so fucked up? What are y'all doing wrong?

That's easy.

Too many liberals.

Have you ever considered travelling overseas????

What you call American "liberals" and hate so much.... are seen as conservatives in most western democracies.


THEN AGAIN....

stay home.... we have enough examples of the "Ugly American" on display around the world.
He is green but damn I wouldn't go around calling him ugly.

Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism? I was there for a few weeks.
How's Crete? I was there too.

I was in turkey as well, and Egypt, and several others, what does that have to do with the price of plastic in China?

@anvil, that is what she is reduced to, she can't stop herself, we get it.

Gee Turtle.. speaking of cain't help themselves....

Interesting you would use those countries as your best examples...... I would not think they would qualify as being particularly successful examples of Western Democracies that work for their people.

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turtlespeed

Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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quade

***Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Amazon 7]

turtlespeed

******Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Well that certainly splains things

[quade 3]

turtlespeed

******Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.
Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

I'm glad you agree we need fewer guns per capita in the US. Let's start by getting them out of the hands of nut jobs.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[turtlespeed 212]

Amazon

*********Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Well that certainly splains things

Only to those who do not understand.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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quade

*********Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.
Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

I'm glad you agree we need fewer guns per capita in the US. Let's start by getting them out of the hands of nut jobs.

I agree, but ONLY if you can get them away from the criminals.

Until then, I'll keep mine thanks.
I hope you have some too.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Amazon 7]

turtlespeed

************Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Well that certainly splains things

Only to those who do not understand.

Seemed you wanted it the greek way...

[turtlespeed 212]

Amazon

***************Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Well that certainly splains things

Only to those who do not understand.

Seemed you wanted it the greek way...

Making the state pay your retirement at age 45?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

******************Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Well that certainly splains things

Only to those who do not understand.

Seemed you wanted it the greek way...

Making the state pay your retirement at age 45?


If that is the contract..... that everyone agreed to... then it is only right to abide by that.

It is not what we do here... but other places it works... and it is not like they get rich off their pensions.... but they do find a way to respect their elders far better than this country does.

BUT we know that is not a reality now don't we... except in FAUX NEWS land....

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/greece/retirement-age-men

[kallend 1,623]

turtlespeed

******Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Make the well off pay taxes for a change. Good idea. But let's skip the sex with goats.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 18]

kallend

*********Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Make the well off pay taxes for a change. Good idea. But let's skip the sex with goats.

Well
In the US the top 10% wage earners pay 68% of federal taxes

Do want them to pay more?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,623]

rushmc

************Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Make the well off pay taxes for a change. Good idea. But let's skip the sex with goats.

Well
In the US the top 10% wage earners pay 68% of federal taxes

Do want them to pay more?

We could start by eliminating the special low tax rate reserved for millionaire hedge fund managers. The reason that so many, like Romney and Buffett, pay at a lower rate than their secretaries.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 18]

In the US the top 10% wage earners pay 68% of federal taxes

Do want them to pay more?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[turtlespeed 212]

rushmc

************Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Make the well off pay taxes for a change. Good idea. But let's skip the sex with goats.

Well
In the US the top 10% wage earners pay 68% of federal taxes

Do want them to pay more?

Of course he does.

A democrat will give the shirt off another's back in a heart beat.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 1,623]

turtlespeed

***************Yes, in fact I have travelled pretty extensively.

How's Greece doing with that liberalism?

To stay on topic, Greece is doing well with FAR fewer nut job with gun murders than the US and they're doing it with less gun ownership per capita than the US by far as well.

Then, by Jove,let's emulate Greece.

Make the well off pay taxes for a change. Good idea. But let's skip the sex with goats.

Well
In the US the top 10% wage earners pay 68% of federal taxes

Do want them to pay more?

Of course he does.

A democrat will give the shirt off another's back in a heart beat.

Taxes were a lot higher when Eisenhower (R) was president.

Taxes were a lot higher when Nixon (R) was president.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,384]

Well, here is something about the killers past I hadn't heard before: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/exclusive-virginia-killer-wrote-notes-sex-life-article-1.2342431

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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ryoder

Well, here is something about the killers past I hadn't heard before: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/exclusive-virginia-killer-wrote-notes-sex-life-article-1.2342431

Women lose their looks and they just gain weight, collect cats and frequent yard sales. I guess it is just tougher if you are homosexual.

I remember a client back in the '80s that was depressed because he was turning 30 and did not feel attractive anymore.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.