If you can choose your sex, why not choose your race?

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I can understand her family's resentment, and their denials. She apparently rescued her brother Isaiah from them and assumed custody of him, and he now chooses not to communicate with them as he gets on with his life. And they certainly don't appreciate her supporting the alleged victim of her other brother Joshua, who currently stands accused by the state of Colorado, pending trial, of four counts of felony sexual assault. Yeah, there are plenty of clues.

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jimjumper

The California Indian Tribes are fighting over exactly this issue. How much specific Tribal DNA do you need to qualify for a share of the casino money? Right now its still in the courts.

And oh what intrigue it is. It's straight up mob type stuff going on. For some good stuff look up Chukchansi.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Elisha 1]

Andy9o8

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She resigned (thank God).

No, you can thank her vindictive parents, who are retaliating against her for exposing their abuse of children, for removing her African-American younger adoptive brother from their abusive home, and for her support of the victim who has accused her older brother of criminal sexual abuse.

Gee, now why on earth might someone in her shoes be psychologically motivated to deny her immediate blood relatives, and to establish an entirely new, independent identity through which to live out the remainder of her life, and perhaps allow herself and her kid brother to heal a bit? One cannot imagine.

I don't really care about the backstory. Fine. If the parents were abusive, then great that she removed her adoptive brother from his abusive home. I'm just glad that she won't be lying and fooling people to be someone she's not.

[jgoose71 0]

So come to find out, she sued a college for discriminating against her for being white...

And her parents didn't out here because they were being vindictive, just answering questions honestly as a part of another investigation....

The plot thickens.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/woman-at-center-of-naacp-case-sued-university-in-2002-said-it-favored-black-students/ar-BBlbKIA

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

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Skyrad

Hahahaha...I had the same thought, she's not a fake simply Trans-racial.

In fairness, Steve Martin was the first "Trans-racial" person out there....

"I was born a poor black child. I remember the days, sittin' on the porch with my family, singin' and dancin' down in Mississippi."

- Steve Martin "The Jerk"

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[cvfd1399 0]

Clayton Bigsby. The first blind black white supremacist. When he found out he was black he divorced his wife because he couldn't be married to a "nigger lover."

[ryoder 1,384]

jgoose71

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Hahahaha...I had the same thought, she's not a fake simply Trans-racial.

In fairness, Steve Martin was the first "Trans-racial" person out there....

"I was born a poor black child. I remember the days, sittin' on the porch with my family, singin' and dancin' down in Mississippi."

- Steve Martin "The Jerk"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAvQp-Uk5I

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[ryoder 1,384]

cvfd1399

Clayton Bigsby. The first blind black white supremacist. When he found out he was black he divorced his wife because he couldn't be married to a "nigger lover."

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82404406/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[cvfd1399 0]

Reporter: Are you black?
Her: I don't understand the question..........

[normiss 622]

Orange is the new black.

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normiss

Orange is the new black.

so this woman, Donald Trump, and Oompa Loompas are now in the mix too?

it's so confusing

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[Amazon 7]

normiss

Orange is the new black.

And how did we get to the John " The Crying Man"Boehner?????

[Elisha 1]

cvfd1399

Reporter: Are you black?
Her: I don't understand the question..........

Sorry, got to correct you here...

Reporter: Are you African-American?

But the reaction remains.... She still blatantly identifies as "Black".

[Elisha 1]

jgoose71

So come to find out, she sued a college for discriminating against her for being white...

And her parents didn't out here because they were being vindictive, just answering questions honestly as a part of another investigation....

The plot thickens.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/woman-at-center-of-naacp-case-sued-university-in-2002-said-it-favored-black-students/ar-BBlbKIA

Check out the comments in this Jezebel article.

http://jezebel.com/hooboy-rachel-dolezal-sued-howard-university-for-discr-1711460097

Great comment at the bottom of the AP article posted on SFGate (comments section, not the article):

"At this point, ironically, she's lost whatever identity she had and has become a Rorschach blot allowing everyone else to project their imaginings upon her."

Rorschach blot...LOL! (fixed to make the clicky)

[ryoder 1,384]

From last night's "The Daily Show".
Stewart: "This mostly just happens in movies..."

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[quade 3]

So here's my take on it.

The question really becomes, "does the self-identification hurt anyone in the process?"

Caitlyn choosing to identify as a woman harms nobody.
Dolezal choosing to identify as black harms the credibility of the organization she has represented in several ways.

This is similar to how it's okay for kids to play "Army" and dress up in clothes and put on mock battles, but it's completely inappropriate for someone to attempt to game the system by claiming they're a Vietnam vet if they never served in an attempt at personal gain.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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ryoder

From last night's "The Daily Show".
Stewart: "This mostly just happens in movies..."

I love Jon Stewart. One of the funniest ever.

There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"!

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quade

So here's my take on it.

The question really becomes, "does the self-identification hurt anyone in the process?"

Caitlyn choosing to identify as a woman harms nobody.
Dolezal choosing to identify as black harms the credibility of the organization she has represented in several ways.

Nonsense, the NAACP is already an organization without credibility.

[quade 3]

Winsor, that's simply your opinion of a specific organization. Try to see beyond your own, personal hatred for a second.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[cvfd1399 0]

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So here's my take on it.

The question really becomes, "does the self-identification hurt anyone in the process?"

For everything but race I can't think of any, but our nation has set up guidelines for preferential treatment of races, and some organizations are designed around race. Whe someone decides to lie and be something they are not to get into predominantly black college, use the token on job applications, and who knows what else it does hurt people. I have to think she stepped on a few deserving actual African Americans along her way and filled slots they would have otherwise been able to take. Who knows how their lives ended up.

[quade 3]

Precisely the point, although there may in fact be other cases we're not thinking of.

For instance, I look like hell for my age. Can I self-identify as a 65-year-old, retire, and start collecting my pensions? Probably not.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[Elisha 1]

In the spirit of warm fuzzies, I think I was at the gym or some place where I didn't have control over the tv and watched this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Color_of_Friendship

Premise: Black Congressman's family hosts white South African girl exchange student. Both are shocked at first, then become BFFs by the end of the film.

[winsor 186]

quade

Winsor, that's simply your opinion of a specific organization. Try to see beyond your own, personal hatred for a second.

"I always pass on good advice. It is the only thing to do with it. It is never of any use to oneself." - Oscar Wilde

Why don't you lead by example, eh?

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quade

Precisely the point, although there may in fact be other cases we're not thinking of.

For instance, I look like hell for my age. Can I self-identify as a 65-year-old, retire, and start collecting my pensions? Probably not.

I do see your point. Identify yourself however you want as long as you don't use that identification to fraudulently receive gains meant for some else....

The problem, however, is that the country has divided its self so much legally and socially that it's pretty hard to do now a days. So many different special programs for women and minorities that they have crept into just about every aspect of every day lives, to include college applications, job hiring requirements, grants, and social services.

Because of all the excess laws and regulations, we are now skirting on the edge of yet another disaster... go figure....

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

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cvfd1399

For everything but race I can't think of any, but our nation has set up guidelines for preferential treatment of races, and some organizations are designed around race. When someone decides to lie and be something they are not to get into predominantly black college, use the token on job applications, and who knows what else it does hurt people. I have to think she stepped on a few deserving actual African Americans along her way and filled slots they would have otherwise been able to take. Who knows how their lives ended up.

If you get away from your family and basically start over again as a black person, how much does that differ from actually being a black person? Is there an age cut off where "the damage of being black is done" after which soft reparations like the ones you mention are not owed? If you weren't black by then will you never be black? Is it really age zero? Is the presumption that a person can dye their skin, own their new race each day, and only benefit from it free from the drawbacks/racism/discrimination? What does that say about black people who grew up in well-off families?

I don't think this is all that comparable to the guy who says he can't work because his bad back and proceeds to collect disability until he's caught launching a boat to go fishing on the weekend.