ryoder 1,390 #26 March 23, 2015 Remster ***>If there's a Democrates in the Senate, then I want to SEE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE I hear he was really born in Canada. Suuuuuuure! Blame Canada. Again. OK, we'll offer you a deal: We'll keep Bieber, but you must take Cruz back."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #27 March 23, 2015 What's this "we" shit???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,402 #28 March 23, 2015 >We'll keep Bieber, but you must take Cruz back. We'll throw Loverboy and Bryan Adams into the deal too! You can have em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #29 March 23, 2015 Hey. Cruz is only trying to be one of the Lucky Ones. He's Working for the Weekend with his nomination.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #30 March 24, 2015 normiss What's this "we" shit???? It's him and Demosthenes and LockeI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,345 #31 March 24, 2015 So let me get this straight - We face a national security crisis due to terrorists, Russia & China. We face a financial crisis due to the ballooning national debt. We face a constitutional crisis because the President is issuing exwc orders for stuff he can't get through Congress. How is this any different from, say, the past thirty years?"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 174 #32 March 24, 2015 Because a Democrat is the POTUS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #33 March 24, 2015 Irregardless of political views. I always feel stunt that voters who are living paycheck to paycheck, about two months away from bankruptcy, feel represented by anyone in Congress. Maybe what we really need is more blue-collar workers. Whose net worth is in the 5-figures. Not 7, 8, or 9. P.S.: You can look across the world map. Many a countries there the heads of government are worth 6 figures at most. And they are just as good, even better!!!! turtlespeed*********I don't think there is even a single rich Democrates in office. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) $193.07 Million Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) $81.63 Million Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) $76.30 Million Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) $65.91 Million Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) $55.07 Million Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) $52.93* Million Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) $45.39 Million etc. Unless any of them are also a Democrates, I stand by my statement. I think we would be better with more rich Socrates, than Democrates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,402 #34 March 24, 2015 >I always feel stunt that voters who are living paycheck to paycheck, about >two months away from bankruptcy, feel represented by anyone in Congress. Yet those same representatives get voted in time and time again. Look at this board; most people here care only about whether the person has an R or a D after his or her name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #35 March 25, 2015 Someone understood that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #36 March 25, 2015 You and I agree. It still blows my mind. How can an electorate so consistently vote against its own self-interests? It doesn't make sense. P.S.: Cruze signed up for Obamacare. While he and his minions try to kill it. Somebody explain that to me. billvon>I always feel stunt that voters who are living paycheck to paycheck, about >two months away from bankruptcy, feel represented by anyone in Congress. Yet those same representatives get voted in time and time again. Look at this board; most people here care only about whether the person has an R or a D after his or her name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #37 March 25, 2015 mpohl How can an electorate so consistently vote against its own self-interests? It doesn't make sense. TV -- and way too much of it. The American populace is like a herd of sheep, and television is its shepherd. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,632 #38 March 25, 2015 mpohl You and I agree. It still blows my mind. How can an electorate so consistently vote against its own self-interests? It doesn't make sense. P.S.: Cruze signed up for Obamacare. While he and his minions try to kill it. Somebody explain that to me. ***>I always feel stunt that voters who are living paycheck to paycheck, about >two months away from bankruptcy, feel represented by anyone in Congress. Yet those same representatives get voted in time and time again. Look at this board; most people here care only about whether the person has an R or a D after his or her name. Because the GOP has taken the playbook of one Josef Goebbels and run with it. If you tell the same lie often enough people will believe it's true.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #39 March 25, 2015 kallend*** You and I agree. It still blows my mind. How can an electorate so consistently vote against its own self-interests? It doesn't make sense. P.S.: Cruze signed up for Obamacare. While he and his minions try to kill it. Somebody explain that to me. ***>I always feel stunt that voters who are living paycheck to paycheck, about >two months away from bankruptcy, feel represented by anyone in Congress. Yet those same representatives get voted in time and time again. Look at this board; most people here care only about whether the person has an R or a D after his or her name. Because the GOP has taken the playbook of one Josef Goebbels and run with it. If you tell the same lie often enough people will believe it's true. I am sure that this approach is different from that of the Democrats, but I can't quite put my finger on how. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #40 March 25, 2015 winsor ****** You and I agree. It still blows my mind. How can an electorate so consistently vote against its own self-interests? It doesn't make sense. P.S.: Cruze signed up for Obamacare. While he and his minions try to kill it. Somebody explain that to me. ***>I always feel stunt that voters who are living paycheck to paycheck, about >two months away from bankruptcy, feel represented by anyone in Congress. Yet those same representatives get voted in time and time again. Look at this board; most people here care only about whether the person has an R or a D after his or her name. Because the GOP has taken the playbook of one Josef Goebbels and run with it. If you tell the same lie often enough people will believe it's true. I am sure that this approach is different from that of the Democrats, but I can't quite put my finger on how. Think in terms of climate change is bad, and you will start to finger it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #41 March 25, 2015 turtlespeed ****** Because the GOP has taken the playbook of one Josef Goebbels and run with it. If you tell the same lie often enough people will believe it's true. I am sure that this approach is different from that of the Democrats, but I can't quite put my finger on how. Think in terms of climate change is bad, and you will start to finger it.Oh, I don't know. That one sounds suspiciously like Herr Doktor Goebbels' work as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,402 #42 March 25, 2015 >I am sure that this approach is different from that of the Democrats, but I can't >quite put my finger on how. Different bogeymen. You wouldn't generally see "Goebbels" in a screed against the democrats - you'd see Castro or Marx. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #43 March 25, 2015 billvon>I am sure that this approach is different from that of the Democrats, but I can't >quite put my finger on how. Different bogeymen. You wouldn't generally see "Goebbels" in a screed against the democrats - you'd see Castro or Marx. Oddly enough, the founder of Fascism as we know it was a lifelong communist/socialist - Benito Mussolini. National Socialism better represented successful socialism than did any of the other Socialist regimes that come to mind. None of the Socialist Workers Paradises (tm) I visited in my youth were any more likely to have trade unions than did the Third Reich. Beyond the religious whacko factor on the right, I do not see a lot of difference between the two. P J O'Rourke, however, put it succinctly in his claim that God was the model for the right and Santa Claus was the model for the left. Both God and Santa Claus know if you have been naughty or nice, but God imposes consequences for transgressions, while Santa Claus never does anything about it, and provides endless free stuff anyway. On both sides of the aisle, the scum rises to the top. T'was ever thus. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #44 March 25, 2015 QuoteI believe David Perdue ...Mr. Perdue is my Senator. He's obviously a smart guy, smart enough to change his political tune according to the prevailing winds in his gerrymandered district. He supported Common Core, until that became a liability. He also supported Obamacare, until that became a liability. As is the case with many successful CEOs, his record shows a willingness to regard people (particularly working class people) as cogs in a machine, undeserving of consideration as human beings. He's made a fortune taking over companies and outsourcing the business to Mexico and elsewhere. Along the way he made sure that the American workers he left behind got nothing but "an empty bag". He ran a textile company called Pillowtex for 9 months, then left with a $1.7 million severance package, just before the company folded leaving 7,500 employees out of a job and without the pensions they had paid into for years. When he ran Dollar General the chain was successfully sued due to a consistent pattern of paying female managers less than males with similar experience. I should also acknowledge that he had some significant business successes. Dollar General actually expanded and eventually added jobs. Reebock increased in value a lot under his tenure, though it was the investors who profited as the jobs shifted to Mexico. I have no doubt that Mr. Perdue was a good CEO, providing value for investors at the expense of his employees. My question is, are the values often expressed by management (employees are a necessary evil, squeeze them as hard as you can and give them nothing you don't absolutely have to) the values we need to see in government? Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #45 March 25, 2015 RonD1120Maybe they didn't teach you this in college but, business operates on the profit motive. It is called rational.Do you think government should run on a profit motive? Personally, I think things that can be done efficiently by for-profit businesses should be done by business. There are a lot of other things that are (to my mind) necessary functions of a civil society, but are not profitable. It is hard for me to see how one can make a profit out of ensuring that the air we all breath is not full of toxins. I do not think the judicial system should be put up for bid to those with the deepest pockets. And so on. Business has no responsibility to care for the well-being of society. That is the job of government. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites