kallend 1,679
cvfd1399I know him personally he jumps at my home dz and work with him at the fire station. It's funny you mention him not replying knowing you got him banned. Dont expect a reply......
If anyone has been banned it's because of what THEY wrote, not because of anything I wrote. I am not responsible for what someone else writes.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
cvfd1399 0
As if they are required to be separate people. So it's more likely that a person will shoot the son's friend for looting the house. Or Uncle Joe gets drunk and pulls out a knife to stab Aunt Flo and gets shot. Or the neighbor and his tweaker kids show up to teach you a lesson for cooperating with the police after one of their dogs attackked a pedestrian.
Yoiure exactly right. Why do people suddenly go out and say, "I want a shotgun?" Because there is someone they know who scares the bejeezus out of them. "Yes, officer. I know the person I shot. He's been stalking me for three years."
Did you know that the vast majority of restraining orders are taken out against family, friends and acquaintances?
My wife is hotter than your wife.
Know how many family members, friends, pedestrians, etc, are mauled by dogs? Dogs are less predictable than guns and probably even more likely to maul or kill a friend or family member than is a gun.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
SkyDekker 1,153
lawrocket[Reply]My home protection consists of my dog and the local PD.
Know how many family members, friends, pedestrians, etc, are mauled by dogs? Dogs are less predictable than guns and probably even more likely to maul or kill a friend or family member than is a gun.
You are right. In stead of a family pet, everybody should have a family gun.
These comparisons are getting stupid.
In the end the US has a constitutional right to firearms, which simply is never going to change. The occasional kid just dies as a price to pay.
Having the convenience of cars comes at the a price too. Each society will have to decide for itself which price they are willing to pay for which convenience/right.
For me the costs of relatively free and unfettered gun ownership are not worth the benefits. I know many will disagree, which is fine.
billvon 2,473
>friend or family member than is a gun.
You're right! It's almost as if everyone should make their own decisions on owning a dog after considering all the risks, rather than buy one because "otherwise they are helpless victims."
DougH 270
billvon>Dogs are less predictable than guns and probably even more likely to maul or kill a
>friend or family member than is a gun.
You're right! It's almost as if everyone should make their own decisions on owning a dog after considering all the risks, rather than buy one because "otherwise they are helpless victims."
Hmmm that is funny, "make their own decisions on owning a (gun/dog) after considering all the risks".
Almost interchangeable, and pretty simple.
I considered the risks of owning a gun, and I do as a much as I could to mitigate that risk including bio-metric access control that can't be guessed at by creative kids with too much time, or a pissed off significant other.
I will continue to be a responsible gun owner but I guess a story about me not getting shot after an argument involving laundry, or not blindly firing off shots in the dark, isn't as news worthy as heat packing granny worried about everything that goes bump in the hood.
=P
Stumpy
What - like this?Quote(Caveat - for most states)
You can argue semantics all day (apologies I didn't structure my sentences the way you require),but you are still wrong.
Post 31.
hackish
Significantly fewer in most gun free countries. You find outliers, I think Norway was top of the list because of that one madman in Oslo. Tough part about statistics is that you need enough incidences that the value isn't just due to chance.
This works both ways. A lot of people like to cite the small number of incidents in small population areas as vastly improved on the US. Australia is particular is cited as being great since their gun ban, yet their 2 incidents translates to a pretty high rate. That size is too small to make a statistically significant comparison to argue either way.
stayhigh 2
Bigger question.
Is #8 birdshot enough for the home protection?
There is so much debate over this.
So are is .22 big enough to be used for home protection?
After hearing this 80 year old dude shooting a home invader and killing one. I absolutely believe that .22 has enough fire power for a home defense.
DougH***
Hmmm that is funny, "make their own decisions on owning a (gun/dog) after considering all the risks".
Almost interchangeable, and pretty simple.
indeed - the breeds of dogs best suited to home defense have a cost of their own, and there are ~4M dog bites a year. The fatality rate is quite low, but then again so are the number of infant child shot by accident.
Personally I'd have ethical problems about relying on the dog as the only line of defense; I'm not willing to sacrifice it to an intruder because I don't have a gun option as well. My pets are members of the family.
Which means that seconds really matter and nobody else will be able to save you. And the reasoning is apparently that because friends or family members are more likely to shoot people, that those people should simply be sitting ducks for everyone.
Moving the goalposts again?
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.