Cliven Bundy Syndrome

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Cliven Bundy syndrome: Why Christian conservatives think they’re above the law

From Hobby Lobby to the Nevada rancher, members of the far right share a dangerous, anarchic pathology

It’s tempting to write this reaction off as a matter of idiocy married to identity politics. Bundy is a white guy in a cowboy hat wielding guns, which reads as “one of us” to many on the right, so they refuse to accept that he’s a bad guy no matter how much he threatens violence against federal officers simply for enforcing a law that applies to everyone. And no doubt that is part of what’s going on here. But really, what’s going on runs deeper than a knee-jerk desire on the part of the right to believe every white guy in a cowboy hat is a good guy. This is the logical extension of a push that’s grown in recent years from conservatives to argue that they, and only they, have special rights to simply disregard any law they don’t want to follow. And unfortunately that’s an argument that may be making headway this year in the Supreme Court.

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http://www.salon.com/2014/04/18/cliven_bundy_syndrome_why_christian_conservatives_think_theyre_above_the_law_partner/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-authoritarianism

It is, itself, ironic to see some ass-clown break the law, then stand in front of a group of people speaking about how he doesn't recognize the authority of "the government" and talk about his protections which are guaranteed under the Constitution.

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Judge Napolitano Explains How the Government Snatched ‘Defeat Out of the Jaws of Victory’ on Nevada Rancher Case
Apr. 18, 2014 9:00pm Erica Ritz

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/18/judge-napolitano-explains-how-the-government-snatched-defeat-out-of-the-jaws-of-victory-on-nevada-rancher-case/

Bottom line, the Feds blinked. Then in retreat they trashed his property, killed a prize bull and a pinned cow and destroyed a desert tortoise den.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-authoritarianism

It is, itself, ironic to see some ass-clown break the law, then stand in front of a group of people speaking about how he doesn't recognize the authority of "the government" and talk about his protections which are guaranteed under the Constitution.

As soon you and those who agree with you start bitching about Obama breaking the law by changing AHA law you will have a point I will pay attention to
Until then........

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Bottom line, the guy is a tax cheat and is being glorified by people who ought to really hate that sort of thing.

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Bottom line, the guy is a tax cheat and is being glorified by people who ought to really hate that sort of thing.

I disagree. If he really is a tax cheat, is he avoiding or evading the tax? The former is legal while the latter is not. At any rate, if he is being glorified it is by people who hate all taxation. In this case, taxation to unnecessarily protect a tortoise.

IMO, he is being glorified for taking a stand against the abuse of power by the federal government. They won their case on appeal. Armed BLM thugs were not required to enforce the federal position.

Just to be clear, I do not like the EPA, the BLM or the Sierra Club. I understand that some form of taxation is required.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

***Bottom line, the guy is a tax cheat and is being glorified by people who ought to really hate that sort of thing.

I disagree. If he really is a tax cheat, is he avoiding or evading the tax? The former is legal while the latter is not. At any rate, if he is being glorified it is by people who hate all taxation. In this case, taxation to unnecessarily protect a tortoise.

IMO, he is being glorified for taking a stand against the abuse of power by the federal government. They won their case on appeal. Armed BLM thugs were not required to enforce the federal position.

Just to be clear, I do not like the EPA, the BLM or the Sierra Club. I understand that some form of taxation is required.

Very good...#1!!


Chuck

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Bottom line, the guy is a tax cheat and is being glorified by people who ought to really hate that sort of thing.

Bottom Line: You lost your case. Now, you're whining about it by starting another Thread...

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PiLFy

Bottom Line: You lost your case. Now, you're whining about it by starting another Thread...

Negative. Bundy is almost certainly going to ultimately lose, but that is also not the point of this thread. It's about the anarchist attitudes.

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It is, itself, ironic to see some ass-clown break the law, then stand in front of a group of people speaking about how he doesn't recognize the authority of "the government" and talk about his protections which are guaranteed under the Constitution.

I don't find that to be ironic, at least not when stated in the general case as you have here. Perhaps there's some more specific details about the Nevada rancher case you need to work into your jab.

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Bottom line, the guy is a tax cheat and is being glorified by people who ought to really hate that sort of thing.

And reported on by "The Blaze"

The news channel for those who need to have their news on the batshit crazy side of reality that the "Fair and Balanced" FAUX News could not put on air.

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***Bottom Line: You lost your case. Now, you're whining about it by starting another Thread...

Negative. Bundy is almost certainly going to ultimately lose, but that is also not the point of this thread. It's about the anarchist attitudes.

Wrong. It's about an out of control Govt. stealing lands & livelihoods by using BS excuses & abusive tactics.

Had Bundy lost, you wouldn't still be crying about it. The Militias will be ready for followup attempts, as well.

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PiLFy

******Bottom Line: You lost your case. Now, you're whining about it by starting another Thread...

Negative. Bundy is almost certainly going to ultimately lose, but that is also not the point of this thread. It's about the anarchist attitudes.

Wrong. It's about an out of control Govt. stealing lands & livelihoods by using BS excuses & abusive tactics.

No. That's what the other thread might be about, but this one is about general anarchist attitudes and ironies.

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Yet you yourself recently used a link to that very source.

I was pretty surprised!




I can't understand how anyone watches that or HLN.

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As soon you and those who agree with you start bitching about Obama breaking the law by changing AHA law you will have a point I will pay attention to
Until then........

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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normiss

Yet you yourself recently used a link to that very source.

I was pretty surprised!




I can't understand how anyone watches that or HLN.

I was trying to get "someone" to actually look at it.. since their filters for anything sane... do not allow them to see anything from legitimate news organizations.

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Understand that.

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Bottom line, the guy is a tax cheat and is being glorified by people who ought to really hate that sort of thing.

Yes, this Bundy affair resulted in a large number of posters here who now have no business complaining about welfare queens for the foreseeable future.

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kelpdiver

***Bottom line, the guy is a tax cheat and is being glorified by people who ought to really hate that sort of thing.

Yes, this Bundy affair resulted in a large number of posters here who now have no business complaining about welfare queens for the foreseeable future.

Uh that is SOOO not going to happen

The posters here who ascribe to all the tenants of the Teanderthal Party are incapable of exhibiting that amount of rationality.

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*********Bottom Line: You lost your case. Now, you're whining about it by starting another Thread...

Negative. Bundy is almost certainly going to ultimately lose, but that is also not the point of this thread. It's about the anarchist attitudes.

Wrong. It's about an out of control Govt. stealing lands & livelihoods by using BS excuses & abusive tactics.

No. That's what the other thread might be about, but this one is about general anarchist attitudes and ironies.

Riiiiight...

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You got to love the logic of those claiming to be from the "Party of Lincoln" while flying the Confederate flag.

Go figure.

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******Bottom line, the guy is a tax cheat and is being glorified by people who ought to really hate that sort of thing.

Yes, this Bundy affair resulted in a large number of posters here who now have no business complaining about welfare queens for the foreseeable future.

Uh that is SOOO not going to happen

The posters here who ascribe to all the tenants of the Teanderthal Party are incapable of exhibiting that amount of rationality.

There is no rationality in your premise. It is a juxtaposition of concepts. One concept is the fraudulent use of tax dollars by sucking welfare. The other is the refusal to provide tax dollars for fraudulent use. Kelpdiver missed it also.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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As soon you and those who agree with you start bitching about Obama breaking the law by changing AHA law you will have a point I will pay attention to
Until then........

when you are caught with your pants down around your ankles, what do you do?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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As soon you and those who agree with you start bitching about Obama breaking the law by changing AHA law you will have a point I will pay attention to
Until then........

when you are caught with your pants down around your ankles, what do you do?

I'm not touchin' that one!


Chuck

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***Bottom Line: You lost your case. Now, you're whining about it by starting another Thread...

Negative. Bundy is almost certainly going to ultimately lose, but that is also not the point of this thread. It's about the anarchist attitudes.

Clive Bundy is like Oliver North. Oliver North was a criminal who should have gone to prison. Problem: the government decided to put on a public kangaroo court, looked arbitrary and wanted to use him to send a message and within a couple of days he was viewed as a hero BECAUSE he stood up to a senate and wouldn't put up with their posturing crap.

Here's an idea: the government cuts off the paramilitary SWAT shit for everything. Here's another idea: the government doesn't set up limited First Amendment zones (exception: military bases). Another idea - the government is open and allows filming of whatever it's doing.

Big point - the government is second to pull out the guns.

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