Feds lay siege to Nevada ranch

[billvon 2,400]

Cool that the government is being the adult in the situation. This can be handled in the courts.

[PiLFy 0]

billvon

Cool that the government is being the adult in the situation. This can be handled in the courts.

Those Protestors were willing to lay it on the line for ALL of our rights, including yours. Why am I not surprised you've totally missed the boat ??

[billvon 2,400]

>Those Protestors were willing to lay it on the line for ALL of our rights, including
>yours.

My right to trespass? Yes, that's great. Now man up and pay the use fee.

>Why am I not surprised you've totally missed the boat/

Happy to miss the "ignore the law" boat. I'll take the next one.

[quade 3]

PiLFy

***Cool that the government is being the adult in the situation. This can be handled in the courts.

Those Protestors were willing to lay it on the line for ....

uh, puleeze...

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[PiLFy 0]

billvon

>Those Protestors were willing to lay it on the line for ALL of our rights, including
>yours.

My right to trespass? Yes, that's great. Now man up and pay the use fee.

>Why am I not surprised you've totally missed the boat/

Happy to miss the "ignore the law" boat. I'll take the next one.

Enjoy your ignorance (or obtuseness). Maybe we can arrange an exemption for you & Quade. Then, the Feds can crap all over you...

[Boomerdog 0]

Hmmm....

The family claims to have documents proving they have a right to be on and using the land.

There are unconfirmed reports that an overpopulations of the desert tortoise is resulting in tortoises being euthanized by the government.

Apparently, this fight between the Bundy's and the BLM has been going on for 20 years. Why the govt. escalation with a bunch of snipers and other badges say...now! Perhaps because...

The crony capitalism angle...Senator Reid and his son apparently have something going with ENN, a solar company from the People's Republic of China and tied to the People's Liberation Army desiring to put a solar farm on the contested land. Which seques into....

...a few hours after this report about Reid's antics is released, the Federales stand down and leave the area...not to worry, they'll be back after Harry Reid hires some fixers to solve this immediate problem.

Several militias from several states converge on Nevada...bringing their guns with them vowing to take a stand...with deadly force if necessary.

So, we are supposed to be in the "enlightened" 21st Century and the same damn avarice, greed, tempers etc etc that we saw in the ranger wars of the 19th and early 20th Centuries are still alive and well.

Seems we may not be that enlightened after all.

[rushmc 18]

billvon

Cool that the government is being the adult in the situation. This can be handled in the courts.

As far as the confrontation goes I agree with you but

Here is a bit more if not posted up thread

The BLM only took control of this land when the turtle was put on the endangered list.
An area was created to help the turtle come back
It has
To the point they are getting out of the area and some are being euthanized
The turtle is no longer in trouble
So, why is the BLM still there?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Did you check out the link in the first arcticle?
http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Here is a fairly good article tying things together along with a timeline of some of the events

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/12/The-Saga-of-Bundy-Ranch

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[masterrig 1]

rushmc

Did you check out the link in the first arcticle?
http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

It figures... some senator's greed. Reid wants to get rich at some insignificant little rancher's expense. Now, all they have to do is get some spin doctor in there to white-wash the whole thing and Harry Reid walks away un-scathed. Just more government bull-shit. Proof again that our senators and congressmen don't give a crap for 'we the people', just themselves.


Chuck

[rushmc 18]

masterrig

***Did you check out the link in the first arcticle?
http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

It figures... some senator's greed. Reid wants to get rich at some insignificant little rancher's expense. Now, all they have to do is get some spin doctor in there to white-wash the whole thing and Harry Reid walks away un-scathed. Just more government bull-shit. Proof again that our senators and congressmen don't give a crap for 'we the people', just themselves.


Chuck

The second link I posted questions Reid's involvement at that level. But I don't trust any of them anymore

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

I know I'm not supposed to attack the source, but infowars? Please.

- Dan G

[rushmc 18]

DanG

I know I'm not supposed to attack the source, but infowars? Please.

I know you can't help yourself when it comes to sites that toe the political line

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

Quote

I know you can't help yourself when it comes to sites that toe the political line

Infowars is an extremist conspiracy theory website lead by Alex Jones. If that's where you get your information, it explains a lot.

- Dan G

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

DanG

I know I'm not supposed to attack the source, but infowars? Please.

Well, come on. The Bundy ranch must be where they mined the materials to make the "nano-thermite."

THAT"S why the feds want the land. They need to hide all the evidence.

Or make more nano-thermite for the next "terrorist attack" that they are planning.

Or maybe it's so that the Chinese can make nano-thermite for their next "terrorist attack."

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[rushmc 18]

DanG

Quote

I know you can't help yourself when it comes to sites that toe the political line

Infowars is an extremist conspiracy theory website lead by Alex Jones. If that's where you get your information, it explains a lot.

Actually
If you cared to follow the thread
You will see I questioned thier reporting too

But, I read many sites
And from time to time stories the maim media reports today had something written about is months if not years ago. Many times not

But thats just me

In any event, this whole thing does not pass the sniff test
Waiting to see what happens now

Now, what else are you going to claim about me that you have not idea about

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[ryoder 1,384]

rushmc

Here is a fairly good article tying things together along with a timeline of some of the events

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/12/The-Saga-of-Bundy-Ranch

Pretty thorough article with documentation.
And it also dispels the idea that Reid wants the land:

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Despite the obvious partisan gain to be had if Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s son Rory (a failed 2010 Nevada gubernatorial candidate) had somehow been involved in a “land grab” affecting the Bundy family ranch operation—the facts just do not pan out as such. Indeed, Rory Reid did in fact have a hand in plans to reclassify federal lands for renewable energy developments. Just northeast of Las Vegas and Nellis Air Force Base, plans were drawn by Reid allies to potentially develop 5,717 acres of land for such use. While it would be fair to claim that such activity was in Bundy’s relative neighborhood, the federal lands once leased by the family were more than 20 miles away, east of Overton, Nevada.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[jclalor 12]

I wonder what US President it was in 1986, that signed the executive order to charge a fee for allowing cattle to graze on federal land?

[Amazon 7]

jclalor

I wonder what US President it was in 1986, that signed the executive order to charge a fee for allowing cattle to graze on federal land?

Why that would be Saint Ronald RayGun of course..... another DETAIL that the GOP fails to overlook in his long list of attacks on America during his sainted years.

[billvon 2,400]

>Enjoy your ignorance (or obtuseness). Maybe we can arrange an exemption for you & Quade.

Sounds like you need the exemption. I'd be more willing to follow the law, although I might not make quite as much money.

[billvon 2,400]

>The BLM only took control of this land when the turtle was put on the endangered list.

No, they've had control for decades. And they've allowed him to graze on it. The only problem is that he refuses to pay grazing fees.

>So, why is the BLM still there?

To impound the cattle, since he has refused to pay what he owes for 20 years now.

[skypuppy 1]

rhaig

***
So how young should he be before we shouldn't ignore the problem and wait for him to die?

Depends. Do the financial analysis. Which is costing more. Letting the guy rack up a bill, with fines and interest and when he dies take it out of his estate, or the constant legal battles and potential for violent confrontation. Take that over the remaining time of his expected life, and do the simple math. Which costs more?
Or just shoot him now and take it out of his estate...

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[Amazon 7]

billvon

>The BLM only took control of this land when the turtle was put on the endangered list.

No, they've had control for decades. And they've allowed him to graze on it. The only problem is that he refuses to pay grazing fees.

>So, why is the BLM still there?

To impound the cattle, since he has refused to pay what he owes for 20 years now.

[sarcasm]
But but but...... its just the BLM out of control under the Kenyan Socialist!!!!








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[PiLFy 0]

billvon

>Enjoy your ignorance (or obtuseness). Maybe we can arrange an exemption for you & Quade.

Sounds like you need the exemption. I'd be more willing to follow the law, although I might not make quite as much money.

I don't need or want an exemption. I see what happened, & am willing to step up. You & Quade should move to Berkley, w/the rest of your ilk. You'll be happier w/your own kind, & we'll be happy to deport all of you free-loaders, en masse. Good Riddance. Liberty bears a price.

Hey, I read where the Feds are going to increase the H1B allotments specifically for engineers. All American born engineers be forced out of thier livelihoods within a year. Now, you remember to blindly follow every corrupt "Law" those POSs on The Hill throw at you. Good Sheep...

[billvon 2,400]

>I don't need or want an exemption.

Good! Then you are in my boat.

>the rest of your ilk

I love this line. It's second only to "you know who else was OK with the law? Hitler, that's who!"